Other games (2024/25)

[Erikse]

5 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Not at all. It isn’t just that the points total is low on its own it's that it's low and that the title has been won with 5 games to go, so not only was a low points total needed to win, but there was also no competition at the top either. There might be good competition from 3rd to 10th but from 1st to 3rd there's none and I don't think the team that won are that good either.

 

Pretty sure this is the earliest a club has won the PL this century. 

 

The high points seasons here had Liverpool and Man City vying it out and with other teams in the mix too. 

 

Even then I think you only need to watch the football itself, it's miles off it and it's not just limited to English teams, the standard of football has dropped this season imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

In 20/21 Man City won after 34 with 80 vs Man Utd at nr 2 with 67. In 19/20 Liverpool had 92 after 34, while Man City at nr. 2 had 69. Sure, Man City didn't get their usual 90+ season to compete with them, but that has only been going on since 17/18. Before Man Citys era of breaking records, Liverpools current season would win most seasons, and it would be secured around this time. It's a bit unfair to assume that competing against the best ever PL side is the usual standard.

 

About us being at 3rd: if we win 3 and lose 1 from the last 4, we will be at the same points as our 4th place season. We've also won 19 games this season, the same as our 4th season. The difference is that we drew a lot of games that season, and have taken some beating this season, but a win and a loss is more effective than 2 draws, nomatter how bad the loss is. If we go 3-0-1 now, we would have 6 more losses than 22/23, despite ending up on the same total points. It was allways the case that you could afford bad runs when fighting for top 4, and sometimes 3rd aswell.

 

 

Edited 18 hours ago by Erikse

[St. Maximin]

Don’t care about Liverpool really but I don’t really get the hatred some of our fans seem to have for them. I don’t think it’s really reciprocated - met plenty of Liverpool fans recently (because I live in London…) who were very nice to and about us after the cup final etc. 

 

They’ve been easily the best team, but also it’s just so boring seeing Man City win everything again. People say they’d rather City keep winning things as they’re irrelevant, but that’s hardly an exciting way to look at the league! This clearly means a lot to Liverpool who never got to celebrate in a stadium in 2020, the same day Man City are getting stick because they don’t care enough about another Wembley trip because they’re so used to it. 
 

And if you hate Liverpool fans, well let’s be honest they’re probably far worse when they don’t win things, similar to managers like Klopp, Arteta etc. I think that’s partly why Man Utd and Arsenal fans seem so dislikable on here now. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 22:56 by St. Maximin

[andycap]

Liverpool fans are an entitled bunch of arse holes well the majority of them are. 

Jealous when anyone upsets the Premier league hierachy. 

When we qualified for the champions league and they didn't they were calling for themselves  to be substituted in our place. 😂 

Hate that any team has money that could stop them winning. 

The list goes on. 

 

[Gawalls]

11 minutes ago, andycap said:

Liverpool fans are an entitled bunch of arse holes well the majority of them are. 

Jealous when anyone upsets the Premier league hierachy. 

When we qualified for the champions league and they didn't they were calling for themselves  to be substituted in our place. 😂 

Hate that any team has money that could stop them winning. 

The list goes on. 

 

I’ve worked with about a dozen Liverpool fans over the years, some in London and some up in Leicester and none have been like that.

[Kid Icarus]

58 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

In 20/21 Man city won after 34 with 80 vs Man Utd at nr 2 with 67. In 19/20 Liverpool had 92 after 34, while Man City at nr. 2 had 69. Sure, Man City didn't get their usual 90+ season to compete with them, but that has only been going on since 17/18. Before Man Citys era of literally breaking records, Liverpools current season would win most seasons, and it would be secured around this time. It's a bit unfair to assume that competing against the best ever PL side is the usual standard.

 

About us being at 3rd: if we win 3 and lose 1 from the last 4, we will be at the same points as our 4th place season. We've also won 19 games this season, the same as our 4th season. The difference is that we drew a lot of games that season, and have taken some beating this season, but a win and a loss is more effective than 2 draws, nomatter how bad the loss is. If we go 3-0-1 now, we would have 6 more losses, despite ending up at the same point total. It was allways the case that you could afford bad runs when fighting for top 4, and sometimes 3rd aswell.

 

 

 

In 20/21 Man City were on for the quadruple right up until the end, losing the 2 they didn't win to another PL side (Chelsea) I take the point that, relatively, the competition wasn't there in the league, but they were still a fantastic side, this Liverpool side aren't. I've said it before but they filled a vacuum (left by Man City needing a rebuild and Arsenal being dickless) rather than set a standard.

 

Agree about our season but I don't think any of us would look at this season and say we've been as consistently good in the league as we were in 22/23. Not a criticism either really, FFP has held us back, but for us to be as streaky as we've been and to have that bad a summer transfer window, but be 3rd is mad. 

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Kid Icarus

[The College Dropout]

2 hours ago, Turnbull2000 said:

Just been watching some of the incidents from the Copa del Rey - holy shit Jude Bellingham is a complete and utter twat. There's also him just standing there after a misplaced pass rather than trying to correct the error. It's unfortunate he'll potentially be central to the England team for several years. He's deeply unlikeable.

Jude also played really well. That shouldn’t be lost. 

[Optimistic Nut]

If/when the time comes, I hope our first title is like the Liverpool one this season just so it's easier on the nerves. None of this Aguero in the 94th minute, or having to come from 0-2 at HT on the last game to win 3-2 like City have had to endure. 

 

Save those for maybe the 3rd or 4th ones. 

[Groundhog63]

Seen a post about some Evertonian wag rebranding blue smoke flares as red and flogging them to the other half 😂

 

Hence.... 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI9e9fLsXCj/?igsh=NXJqMWpmaWlnajN6

[NUFCDoog]

Didn't see any of the build up, but the white and yellow shirts looks awesome at the Leeds game, assume it's coordinated but looks great.

[Dancing Brave]

I'm watching the Leeds v Bristol City game, i'd enjoy it more if Andy Hinchcliffe would just shut the fuck up for a minute or two. 

[Stifler]

Just now, Dancing Brave said:

I'm watching the Leeds v Bristol City game, i'd enjoy it more if Andy Hinchcliffe would just shut the fuck up for a minute or two. 

You get Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman, which battle do you want to win?

[Dancing Brave]

1 minute ago, Stifler said:

You get Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman, which battle do you want to win?

   The mute button all day !

[Dancing Brave]

Leeds 1-0 up it was just a matter of time.

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Dancing Brave

[Dancing Brave]

FFS !!!   Hinchcliffe !!!  SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!

[Kilcline]

Bristol City are garbage, haven't seen much of the Championship this season but these being 5th isn't a great endorsement of the division 

[LionOfGosforth]

17 minutes ago, Kilcline said:

Bristol City are garbage, haven't seen much of the Championship this season but these being 5th isn't a great endorsement of the division 

 

Mackems are nailed on to play someone dreadful in the play-offs, whether it's them or Millwall or Blackburn, doesn't matter and they'll probably win. Terrible standard but plenty of excitement in a lot of games is the general gist I have from what i've seen. No team down there is prepared for the chasm between the top 2 leagues. Best case for the promoted teams is 17th and build from there like Forest did.

 

[RodneyCisse]

4 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said:

 

Mackems are nailed on to play someone dreadful in the play-offs, whether it's them or Millwall or Blackburn, doesn't matter and they'll probably win. Terrible standard but plenty of excitement in a lot of games is the general gist I have from what i've seen. No team down there is prepared for the chasm between the top 2 leagues. Best case for the promoted teams is 17th and build from there like Forest did.

 

Break psr like Forest, stay up and take the hit to build after.

[LionOfGosforth]

1 minute ago, RodneyCisse said:

Break psr like Forest, stay up and take the hit to build after.

 

Yeah basically what I meant. The 3 promoted teams from last season were never staying up, it was hardly a reasonable argument at any point. Leicester and Southampton were an embarrassment, lost about 25 home games between them. Only Ipswich had a tiny chance thanks to some half decent away results (they were pitiful at home as well) and I give them credit for taking it as far as they did. You need to be prepared to spend a ton and there's no guarantees you won't go straight back. But maybe yo-yoing for a few seasons, trading as much as possible, can get the finances into a position where it's possible to come up and stay up.

[Sibierski]

Leicester were best positioned for me to stay up. Experienced squad, competent manager if unspectacular. But they got itchy early, panicked and went with Rudd because he did well against them.

 

When you look at Cooper results, Man Utd game was only bad defeat, rest turned out against top half sides, whilst they picked points up against sides that have turned out to be bottom half. As the season went on, they would’ve kept chugging along.

 

It’s mad how RVN has picked up points in just 2 of the last 18 league games and he’s still in charge  

[LFEE]

4 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Leicester were best positioned for me to stay up. Experienced squad, competent manager if unspectacular. But they got itchy early, panicked and went with Rudd because he did well against them.

 

When you look at Cooper results, Man Utd game was only bad defeat, rest turned out against top half sides, whilst they picked points up against sides that have turned out to be bottom half. As the season went on, they would’ve kept chugging along.

 

It’s mad how RVN has picked up points in just 2 of the last 18 league games and he’s still in charge  

Maybe a clause in his contract and cheaper to sack him when season complete 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

[Pablo123]

6 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Leicester were best positioned for me to stay up. Experienced squad, competent manager if unspectacular. But they got itchy early, panicked and went with Rudd because he did well against them.

 

When you look at Cooper results, Man Utd game was only bad defeat, rest turned out against top half sides, whilst they picked points up against sides that have turned out to be bottom half. As the season went on, they would’ve kept chugging along.

 

It’s mad how RVN has picked up points in just 2 of the last 18 league games and he’s still in charge  

Always felt like Cooper would have been a safe pair of hands for them.

[Donut]

Leeds 4-0. Bask in the glory of Karl Darlow!