Other games (2024/25)

[leffe186]

3 minutes ago, Peppe said:

Not that I'm complaining, but what the Hell is happening with Man United?

It’s been asked a million times, but I’d like to hear @Froggy lay it out. Without really paying enough attention, it feels like they needed a proper reboot, hired the wrong manager, backed him with a decent whack of money but didn’t have a great hit rate with that money.
 

Then you have a new manager coming in at an awkward time with a broken squad, who either tries to get the whole team working towards his own goals (long term view) or is pragmatic to get results (short term). He’s gone for the former, which makes sense given that they’re not realistically going down, but is painful.

 

Ignoring the off-the-field stuff, you’re also in an environment where PSR and the relatively even sharing of cash in the PL has meant that there are a lot of clubs who are close to you in terms of performance in the pitch but also more used to operating within financial constraints and with strong management and squads. For the coup de grace, those clubs have had less football to play and generally fewer injuries and less fatigue as a result.

[Joe1984]

1 minute ago, leffe186 said:

It’s been asked a million times, but I’d like to hear @Froggy lay it out. Without really paying enough attention, it feels like they needed a proper reboot, hired the wrong manager, backed him with a decent whack of money but didn’t have a great hit rate with that money.
 

Then you have a new manager coming in at an awkward time with a broken squad, who either tries to get the whole team working towards his own goals (long term view) or is pragmatic to get results (short term). He’s gone for the former, which makes sense given that they’re not realistically going down, but is painful.

 

Ignoring the off-the-field stuff, you’re also in an environment where PSR and the relatively even sharing of cash in the PL has meant that there are a lot of clubs who are close to you in terms of performance in the pitch but also more used to operating within financial constraints and with strong management and squads. For the coup de grace, those clubs have had less football to play and generally fewer injuries and less fatigue as a result.

Well Man U will have less games next season so that should help... 😄

[duo]

 

 Maguire trying to bag a pen 

[leffe186]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Big chance for the Ham to upset Arsenal with this lineup. 

Hope so. Guy at the park whose dog plays with mine is going today and I could do with some more schadenfreude.

[Shush]

Just now, leffe186 said:

It’s been asked a million times, but I’d like to hear @Froggy lay it out. Without really paying enough attention, it feels like they needed a proper reboot, hired the wrong manager, backed him with a decent whack of money but didn’t have a great hit rate with that money.
 

Then you have a new manager coming in at an awkward time with a broken squad, who either tries to get the whole team working towards his own goals (long term view) or is pragmatic to get results (short term). He’s gone for the former, which makes sense given that they’re not realistically going down, but is painful.

 

Ignoring the off-the-field stuff, you’re also in an environment where PSR and the relatively even sharing of cash in the PL has meant that there are a lot of clubs who are close to you in terms of performance in the pitch but also more used to operating within financial constraints and with strong management and squads. For the coup de grace, those clubs have had less football to play and generally fewer injuries and less fatigue as a result.

 

Operated and managed by arrogance and incompetence over and over, it appears. I'm sure our amphibian friend will explain though. 

[Joe1984]

At what point do we lose the Man U thread and place them in the other 18 (19 including them) thread...

[thomas]

all down to cheaping out on ashworth.  

 

(it's not, but I'm opting to believe it because it's funnier)

[David Edgar]

Manchester fell well behind the elite clubs in terms of non playing personnel and infrastructure towards the end of the SAF era. And have been burning through manager after manager as a result. 

 

Ashworth was brought in to properly fix this, but he knew Amorim was a dud and the Ineos suits didn't want to be challenged so binned him. 

 

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by David Edgar

[Cf]

That corner 

[Joe1984]

1 minute ago, David Edgar said:

Manchester fell well behind the elite clubs in terms of non playing personnel and infrastructure towards the end of the SAF era. And have been burning through manager after manager as a result. 

 

Ashworth was brought in to properly fix this, but he knew Amorim was a dud and the Ineos suits didn't want to be challenged so binned him. 

 

 

 

 

Well he wanted Southgate...

 

Man U as a club is just a poisoned chalice right now. Regardless of the manager.

 

If anyone is a dud it's Ashworth.

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, Sibierski said:

Hate Rio. Come on Moyes, make the prat look glum again.

He sounds like he’s going to cry.

 

[KaKa]

That O:Brien is decent.

 

Think Garner has been good too.

[The Bonk]

1 minute ago, Joe1984 said:

Well he wanted Southgate...

 

Man U as a club is just a poisoned chalice right now. Regardless of the manager.

 

If anyone is a dud it's Ashworth.

Thought it was Eddie? 

[Disco]

Harry Shitbag losing his rag.

[Joe1984]

Just now, The Bonk said:

Thought it was Eddie? 

I could be (and probably am) wrong about that then... 😅

[GeordieDazzler]

Rio in bits 

[Stifler]

Just now, David Edgar said:

Manchester fell well behind the elite clubs in terms of non playing personnel and infrastructure towards the end of the SAF era. And have been burning through manager after manager as a result. 

This. SAF won the title with a team that had no business doing so.

We have been saying since then that they have average and past it players. People like Froggy keep saying they don’t, even defending Bruno when he’s just not consistent enough.

 

I said when SAF left that they would go at least 10 years without winning a title, and they have done. Right now you’d say they probably won’t win another for at least another 10 years.

There is nothing to suggest that they are about to turn a corner.

Can’t find or keep a decent manager. Can’t find the right players, can’t find someone to do the DOF role correctly with the patience that is required.

 

They will build their new mega stadium to sell tickets to their customers, but aside from that, I don’t think anything about them will improve to a level that they would want to be at.

[Kid Icarus]

They're canny lucky we're having yet another season of dead certs to go down like, fucking hell.

[Sibierski]

2 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

Well he wanted Southgate...

 

Man U as a club is just a poisoned chalice right now. Regardless of the manager.

 

If anyone is a dud it's Ashworth.

He didn’t. He wanted a prem based manager, because they likely could hit ground running. And not Amorim, because of more time needed to see if squad would fit without needing massive changes (to accommodate he’s rigid 3-4-3).

[gbandit]

Just now, GeordieDazzler said:

Rio in bits 

Wish I’d recorded it so I can listen to it whenever I need a pick-me-up

[Elric]

1 minute ago, GeordieDazzler said:

Rio in bits 

 

Haha, Koopa-faced motherfucker. Buy them some players out of your own pocket you cunt

 

(Rio, that is. Not you GD )

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Elric

[Sibierski]

Another impressive game from Hojlund.

[Joe1984]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

He didn’t. He wanted a prem based manager, because they likely could hit ground running. And not Amorim, because of more time needed to see if squad would fit without needing massive changes (to accommodate he’s rigid 3-4-3).

 

2 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

I could be (and probably am) wrong about that then... 😅

Guess you missed this... 🤣

[Elric]

Bewwww

[The Bonk]

You had one job, EVERTON!!