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[El Prontonise]

Just now, Gottlob said:

Feels like football is at a low ebb at the moment, which has been especially true in Spain with Barcelona in a period of transition while mired in financial crisis. It's a shame that it has allowed Ancelotti, who previously had a dire record domestically, and the likes of Vinicius and Mbappe to fill their oversized boots.

 

Barcelona should win la liga this season tbh.

[Gottlob]

Also the penalty should be one action rather than one touch, like in tennis where you're only penalised for hitting the ball twice if you take two swings at it.

[Pata]

Feel like they need to have some sensors on the ball like in the last WC to definitely tell, replays are not showing a definite double touch.

 

One of the best penalty shootouts for drama but feels like a bullshit conclusion.

[Yorkie]

I keep thinking I've seen it all with VAR. What a crock of shit.

[Stifler]

1 minute ago, Gottlob said:

Feels like football is at a low ebb at the moment, which has been especially true in Spain with Barcelona in a period of transition while mired in financial crisis. It's a shame that it has allowed Ancelotti, who previously had a dire record domestically, and the likes of Vinicius and Mbappe to fill their oversized boots.

VAR, and PSR all doing their work to keep the status quo, and making the end product shitter.

 

It’s a shame, because if both of those were implemented in the same way, it would make things much more competitive and better quality.

VAR has done fuck but show the incompetence and corruption of the officials in my opinion.

[Disco]

7 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Hmmmmmm. Has to be ‘clear and obvious’ no? 
 

Or do they genuinely know that it’s been struck by his standing foot? Would be almost simultaneously if so, so basically impossible to tell? Surely the ball wouldn’t go that straight and true if a double hit?!  

I think if it has happened it’s after he’s kicked it rather than before. Grazed the top of his slipping foot rather it moving the ball before it’s struck.

[The Prophet]

3 minutes ago, Gottlob said:

Feels like football is at a low ebb at the moment, which has been especially true in Spain with Barcelona in a period of transition while mired in financial crisis. It's a shame that it has allowed Ancelotti, who previously had a dire record domestically, and the likes of Vinicius and Mbappe to fill their oversized boots.

 

The problem is, with the likes of VAR, PSR and the absolute disdain for match going fans, there's probably no going back.

[The College Dropout]

Rules are rules.  Unlucky. 
 

nobody was upset when Mitro double kicked his pen against us. 
 

I don’t see the double touch mind. Maybe the ball moves a bit before it’s hit? The ball does move in the air in an unnatural way.  But I don’t see the contact clearly.  

[duo]

15 minutes ago, Stifler said:

It’s not impossible to tell.

From both those angles, he hasn’t double touched it.

In the second angle it shows he may have hit the ball on his standing foot as it's in front of the ball but you can't tell for sure

[Stifler]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Rules are rules.  Unlucky. 
 

nobody was upset when Mitro double kicked his pen against us. 
 

I don’t see the double touch mind. Maybe the ball moves a bit before it’s hit? The ball does move in the air in an unnatural way.  But I don’t see the contact clearly.  

It’s the fact that there is no evidence that he’s double hit it.

With Mitro it was clear on the replay that he had, although I do agree that a retake should be used in the case of unintended second touches.

[The College Dropout]

The ball moves ever so slightly before it’s struck 

[ponsaelius]

7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Rules are rules.  Unlucky. 
 

nobody was upset when Mitro double kicked his pen against us. 
 

I don’t see the double touch mind. Maybe the ball moves a bit before it’s hit? The ball does move in the air in an unnatural way.  But I don’t see the contact clearly.  

 

Surely you can see the difference with a live game though? The rule is there to stop players passing to themselves. Punishing the double slip accidents are a necessary evil of enforcing this law

 

I personally don't really see why this rule exists in a shootout when the ball is dead once taken regardless of outcome.

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by ponsaelius

[The Prophet]

TCD simping hard for Real here

 

They've not yet shown any conclusive evidence to prove he's hit it twice.

[El Prontonise]

Honestly if that happens on Sunday, the whole Newcastle end should be on the pitch.

[The Prophet]

 

[Fak]

9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

The ball moves ever so slightly before it’s struck 

It doesn’t ?

[LFEE]

They need to appeal that as really all they need to do is restart from penalties if that footage is correct.

 

Only thing I can think of is there is another angle him kicking it off his standing foot. Alvarez did look a little sheepish.

 

Would break my heart losing like that in such a big game against your rivals. 

[The Prophet]

The party line seems to be that there's a sensor in the ball and it was immediately detected it'd been hit twice, which is why it was so quick.

[LFEE]

Just now, The Prophet said:

The party line seems to be that there's a sensor in the ball and it was immediately detected it'd been hit twice, which is why it was so quick.

 

[The Prophet]

Just now, LFEE said:

 

 

Still wouldn't say that's conclusive, unless there's other evidence.

[The Prophet]

[Yorkie]

19 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Surely you can see the difference with a live game though? The rule is there to stop players passing to themselves. Punishing the double slip accidents are a necessary evil of enforcing this law

 

I personally don't really see why this rule exists in a shootout when the ball is dead once taken regardless of outcome.

 

This is exactly it. Even if there is a minuscule additional touch, what exactly is VAR saving us from here? It's the same as these micro-offsides we see every week. There's no actual infringement or unfairness, it's just a stupidly pedantic enforcement of a rule that has changed in nature thanks to VAR.

[The College Dropout]

27 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Surely you can see the difference with a live game though? The rule is there to stop players passing to themselves. Punishing the double slip accidents are a necessary evil of enforcing this law

 

I personally don't really see why this rule exists in a shootout when the ball is dead once taken regardless of outcome.

 

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Surely you can see the difference with a live game though? The rule is there to stop players passing to themselves. Punishing the double slip accidents are a necessary evil of enforcing this law

 

I personally don't really see why this rule exists in a shootout when the ball is dead once taken regardless of outcome.

 

 

 

I mean the rules are the rules. 

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by The College Dropout

[The College Dropout]

13 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

This is exactly it. Even if there is a minuscule additional touch, what exactly is VAR saving us from here? It's the same as these micro-offsides we see every week. There's no actual infringement or unfairness, it's just a stupidly pedantic enforcement of a rule that has changed in nature thanks to VAR.

Then the rules need to be changed. Double touches allowed if they are accidental.  

[The College Dropout]

Hala Madrid