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5 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

More staged than Wrestlemania 

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking.

All organised, sing a ten year old song about someone being on fire, get the autocue out to sing YNWA in front of the players who look like they have no emotion, then get to the airport for the 22:20 flight to Dublin, not forgetting to get your bottle of whiskey from duty free.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

Drury in full flow...

He's a fucking prick. Probably mentioned pages and pages ago but I'm sure at the start before they got their regular coverage of singing their fucking song uninterrupted he said "Come on, you all know the words" or something like that. Turned over to the adverts on ITV while they got that out the way 

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This will crucify the stat-haters but Forest have been outperforming their stats for months now. Just in the league alone they've, according to the dreaded xG stuff, scored 7 goals more than they should have, conceded 10 less than they should have and gained 17 more points than they should have. I know they're just (bullshitty) numbers but they suggest they've squeezed every single point out of every game they've played. They deserve credit for it but it's not sustainable long term. There has to be a correction eventually, maybe this is the start of it? 

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17 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

The fact that Spurs have lost 19 games and still have a goal difference of +6 is wild.

That they've lost 19 games and probably more to come and have comfortably avoided relegation

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

That they've lost 19 games and probably more to come and have comfortably avoided relegation

 

 

 

 

Richard Masters earned his crust with PSR. Not killed us or Villa off but definitely killed off the threat of any of the cartel slipping out of the league.

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5 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

That they've lost 19 games and probably more to come and have comfortably avoided relegation.

The record number of games lost in a season without being relegated is 21.

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Just now, Dr.Spaceman said:

The mackems?

Shared between Villa, Bournemouth, Everton, Palace, Swansea, Hull, West Ham, and Man City.

 

Note, others have suffered more when the Premier League had more teams.

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This Liverpool title may be the most "meh" I've experienced. Obviously it'll be class for their fans, but for the general public this feels like it'll be a title win that will be very quickly forgotten.

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Still don’t get the Covid argument about it having an asterisk or not being competitive or whatever. Every team played in empty or half empty stadiums. It was the same for all. 
 

As for this being the worst or one of the worst title winning teams. Feels like recency bias to me and perhaps spoiled by some of the mad points hauls we’ve had in recent years. With the likes of City and Liverpool going toe to toe. Or when Arsenal and Chelsea have got in on the act and into the title race. 
 

95-96 was when it went to a 38 game season. Fair few since then with high 70s and low 80s as the final points total. Liverpool already have 82 and have 4 games to go. 
 

I know it’s fashionable to dislike Liverpool and I can see some of the arguments about them not being great or even as good as Klopp’s side. But not sure that should be used against them. They were an elite team and were unlucky to just come up against prime Pep at the same time. 
 

Can’t say I remember all of the league winners from yesteryear and if the other teams in the league seemed below par or whatever. So points seems the fairest way of doing it and the numbers aren’t numbering. 
 

Anyway, everyone knows the League Cup is the more prestigious trophy. But I’m happy for them all the same :lol: 

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Weren't Liverpool winning comfortably and on their way to breaking tons of records until covid truly hit the league? I think their record was something like 28-1-0 when the postponement of games and empty stadiums started happening. They actually only started dropping points after the covid break that happened. Without covid they would have probably beat Man Citys 100 point record.

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The problem with the covid argument is that its simply untrue. Man city were the covid winners as it was the 20/21 season that had no fans. Liverpool were awful that season. 19/20 had fans most of the season. then lockdown happened. by the the time lockdown happened liverpool were way ahead. They were on a streak trying to win every match. 

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Overall this has been an awful prem season. Awful title race and even worse relegation battle. Yes the race for europe is fun but that the bundesliga/ligue 1 is the same thing and even they have interesting relegation battles. But I guess that's exactly what the Red Cartel wanted

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12 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said:

Overall this has been an awful prem season. Awful title race and even worse relegation battle. Yes the race for europe is fun but that the bundesliga/ligue 1 is the same thing and even they have interesting relegation battles. But I guess that's exactly what the Red Cartel wanted

I was thinking about this, it's been a really competitive season, in that the middle of the field has gotten a load stronger, so their a lot less shit mediocre teams, where any team can beat anyone, with teams like Man City and Arsenal getting beat way more often, which you'd think would make things more dramatic, but it's actually done the opposite as all it's meant is that Liverpool have just had to be consistent week in week out and it's been a cake walk, while teams that come up just can't compete, as their base is so much lower than everyone else, so they're way off it.

 

So despite it being more competitive it's weirdly made the season more dull, and effectively over with 4 games left.

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Certainly not been an exciting league. With relegation and the winners locked in ages ago. 
 

I just think it’s lazy to conflate that with Liverpool being ‘bad’ champions. It doesn’t really ring true. They could still easily break 90 points. Even if they don’t. They’ve been consistent for pretty much all the season until a few recent blips. 

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54 minutes ago, 54 said:

This Liverpool title may be the most "meh" I've experienced. Obviously it'll be class for their fans, but for the general public this feels like it'll be a title win that will be very quickly forgotten.

Don’t agree there, more memorable than loads of them for me - half the Man City and Man U ones blurred into one. Even Chelsea ones have. The final Ferguson one was memorable for how unmemorable it was  Remember hardly anything about the last four. 
 

Granted the race has been over for a while, but just by not being Man City, and a team I’ve only ever seen do it once before, it’s more memorable and preferable to me. 

 

 

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