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Thought our passing was decent, but all very direct with very little movement off the ball and no anticipation of the through ball.

 

Zimmerman and Ream were solid enough, but all it took was one stupid foul to drop the 2 points. We didn’t need a win, but we’re in big trouble if Wales take anything from Iran.

 

Not having a true striker is going to hurt. Would kill for wor Callum up top.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said:

Thought our passing was decent, but all very direct with very little movement off the ball and no anticipation of the through ball.

 

Zimmerman and Ream were solid enough, but all it took was one stupid foul to drop the 2 points. We didn’t need a win, but we’re in big trouble if Wales take anything from Iran.

 

Not having a true striker is going to hurt. Would kill for wor Callum up top.

 

 

 


Hard to understand how your attackers got worse the more space they had to carry the ball and run into as Wales started to press. Yes, like Wales in the first you didn’t hold it as well but when you got it forward the use of the ball was terrible. Fair result overall. Toss up to who goes through IMO but I think Iran will improve and makes things difficult but Moore can potentially destroy them from set pieces which they looked weak as piss at.

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19 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said:

Thought our passing was decent, but all very direct with very little movement off the ball and no anticipation of the through ball.

 

Zimmerman and Ream were solid enough, but all it took was one stupid foul to drop the 2 points. We didn’t need a win, but we’re in big trouble if Wales take anything from Iran.

 

Not having a true striker is going to hurt. Would kill for wor Callum up top.

 

 

 

 

Weirdly I thought the exact opposite, but hard to comment as the 2 halves were very different. 1st half I felt you were full of energy, good movement off the ball (yes direct) but Wales couldn't cope. 2nd half all that fell apart and you were passing it all over the shop, especially at the back, getting caught in possession putting the pressure back on to you. 

 

Best neutral game so far. Felt more of a WC this evening. 1st time for me.

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41 minutes ago, Disco said:

Smith and Wesson McKennie absolutely nailed on to be suspended for the last match when Coach Sneakers tells his team to once more kick anything that moves in midfield.

 

You actually post like a right-wing American sports studio analyst :lol: like you work for One America News Network's newly created sports division

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3 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said:

Really feels like we’re missing a mean streak in this team. Lot of energy, but you need a bit of nastiness at times. Missing the likes of Dempsey, Bradley, Jermaine Jones.

 

Plenty of that at the back. Thought one of those tackles was a declaration of war! :lol: Know what you mean though, tidy finish aside from Weah, there doesn't seem much upfront, certainly no leadership.

 

Will it be a bitter match, US vs Iran? It's a really interesting group, tbf.

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5 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said:

Really feels like we’re missing a mean streak in this team. Lot of energy, but you need a bit of nastiness at times. Missing the likes of Dempsey, Bradley, Jermaine Jones.

 

Our CBs were our weakest link - the American press loves to gush over Zimmerman who's bang average anywhere but MLS. Perhaps doesn't work having 2 Box to Box mids with Adams sitting? Need a proper #10 like Gio in there to create and Sargent was great for our goal but he's not a target man, which we seemingly don't have / didn't bring. Berhalter's plan went to shit in the second half, not surprising. 

 

We couldn't kill the game off in the first half when they were shit scared of our press. We should have won today but there's a chance we will struggle to breakdown Iran and then lose after a try-hard performance to England. 

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Just now, Dokko said:

 

Plenty of that at the back. Thought one of those tackles was a declaration of war! :lol: Know what you mean though, tidy finish aside from Weah, there doesn't seem much upfront, certainly no leadership.

 

Will it be a bitter match, US vs Iran? It's a really interesting group, tbf.


I think U.S.-England is likelier to be nasty from our fans’ perspective. :lol:

 

You’ll have a few dickhead Yank fans who try to make the Iran match political, but I don’t think there’s any real ill will there. We’ve only ever played them twice before.

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Just now, Kanji said:

 

Our CBs were our weakest link - the American press loves to gush over Zimmerman who's bang average anywhere but MLS. Perhaps doesn't work having 2 Box to Box mids with Adams sitting? Need a proper #10 like Gio in there to create and Sargent was great for our goal but he's not a target man, which we seemingly don't have / didn't bring. Berhalter's plan went to shit in the second half, not surprising. 

 

We couldn't kill the game off in the first half when they were shit scared of our press. We should have won today but there's a chance we will struggle to breakdown Iran and then lose after a try-hard performance to England. 

 

 

Yea, I'm expecting a fucking beatdown Friday against England. A draw there and a win against Iran would be ideal.

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I think U.S.-England is likelier to be nasty from our fans’ perspective. :lol:

 

You’ll have a few dickhead Yank fans who try to make the Iran match political, but I don’t think there’s any real ill will there. We’ve only ever played them twice before.

 

Also makes no sense now given the Iranian players are all about standing up against the current regime too.

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Yea, I'm expecting a fucking beatdown Friday against England. A draw there and a win against Iran would be ideal.

 

Our only hope, hopefully Wales get hate-fucked by England and somehow draw versus Iran. 

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Makes such a big difference watching England with a couple of Toon players in the picture. Was buzzing every time they got involved today. 

 

Players I really like as well, unlike the likes of Owen and Dyer who really pissed me off towards the end of their time at NUFC. 

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9 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said:


:lol: gonna be mad forever about that fucking foul 

Was the pivotal moment in the game tbph, stay on your feet and close down or dive in and give the goal away. Was a 2 point mistake, get that decision right and you're looking comfortable for the last 16

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I was at work during the game, but just watched the highlights. My initial thoughts from that and the bit of the first half I caught:

 

  • A goalkeeper with normal length arms saves Iran's first goal. How much longer can we get away with having a midget who can't reach the bar in goal?
  • Bellingham looks mint. January transfer buy for us? :cheesy:
  • Wilson's pullback for Grealish was class. If that's Kane, he selfishly spunks that chance away. Really not that enamoured by Kane at all.
  • Tripps is still absolutely top class and an absolute joy to behold. Our Captain :smitten:.
  • Sako looked good.
  • Maguire looked OK, but wasn't tested at all In Defence. Same goes for Shaw. Not convinced they'll get a ride as easy as that one, yet they still leaked two goals against a shocking Iran side.

Could someone who actually watched the game give me a steer as to how off the mark I am? Cheers lads.

 

 

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Kane was excellent today despite not scoring and creates a lot of goals. He’s certainly not selfish (well accept maybe when he’s going to extreme lengths to claim goals in a golden boot race). 
 

Would have liked to see Foden start, but happy with Southgate today. The 4-3-3 was excellent and I hope he persists with it against the better sides, especially given there’s solid defensive cover in midfield. Saka offers so much in directness and end-product and Bellingham’s ability combined with maturity at 19 is ridiculous. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, JumpersForGoalposts said:

I was at work during the game, but just watched the highlights. My initial thoughts from that and the bit of the first half I caught:

 

  • A goalkeeper with normal length arms saves Iran's first goal. How much longer can we get away with having a midget who can't reach the bar in goal?
  • Bellingham looks mint. January transfer buy for us? :cheesy:
  • Wilson's pullback for Grealish was class. If that's Kane, he selfishly spunks that chance away. Really not that enamoured by Kane at all.
  • Tripps is still absolutely top class and an absolute joy to behold. Our Captain :smitten:.
  • Sako looked good.
  • Maguire looked OK, but wasn't tested at all In Defence. Same goes for Shaw. Not convinced they'll get a ride as easy as that one, yet they still leaked two goals against a shocking Iran side.

Could someone who actually watched the game give me a steer as to how off the mark I am? Cheers lads.

 

 

 

I'd say those were fair comments.

 

I think a lot of people seem to be getting carried away. For understandable reasons, the Iranians weren't in the right frame of mind, and their defending was a bit shambolic. 

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51 minutes ago, Mike said:

 

There's literally never been a good American Zimmerman.


honestly never understood how often American sports writers wanted to big this guy up for accomplishing hang average of nothing  

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