TRon Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, Pata said: Messi and Di Maria are old but still good. Otamendi too but I don't think it matters, he's still the same. Australia scored with a shot that would've been 20 yards wide and high and got few chances from loose balls and and one once-in-a-lifetime run while Argies missed a sitter after sitter. Argies the favourites against Netherlands imo. I might be in a minority here, but I thought Argentina looked better without Di Maria. He's got lots of pace and tricks, but his end product has always looked inconsistent for me. Today they looked solid and their one touch passing and control of the game was really top notch, although they still lack a bit of bite up front. Martinez' finishing when he came on was laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Not sure how you can call it comfortable when they almost conceded in the last minute. First half Australia (a terrible side btw) had control of the game for large parts. Then came the Messi magic and a howler by the goalkeeper in the second half. Furthermore, Argentina created plenty at 2-1 as Australia threw defenders up top, but not before that. Australia had two great chances to tie it as well. Thought Argentina looked shaky tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, Flip said: Not sure how you can call it comfortable when they almost conceded in the last minute. First half Australia (a terrible side btw) had control of the game for large parts. Then came the Messi magic and a howler by the goalkeeper in the second half. Furthermore, Argentina created plenty at 2-1 as Australia threw defenders up top, but not before that. Australia had two great chances to tie it as well. Thought Argentina looked shaky tbh. I agree with your post flip, except for terrible side. Terrible sides don't win 2 games at a world cup and push a tournament favourite in a KO games. Yes, it isn't beautiful football, but its effective at getting results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 39 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Thanks mate. We are far from pleasing on the eye or dominant, but pretty ruthless as you say. Shame for you guys, wasn’t your best game sadly. Here’s hoping we can put away Messi and co in the next round. You were pretty impressive mate, nice to see a Dutch side show some flashes of that old pedigree. Both goals were really well worked, so many times you see wide men just cross it into a melee of defenders, it was quite smart to pull it back a bit further, and looked well planned as there was players arriving late into that space for both goals. Going to be a very well contested QF with Argentina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, Flip said: Not sure how you can call it comfortable when they almost conceded in the last minute. First half Australia (a terrible side btw) had control of the game for large parts. Then came the Messi magic and a howler by the goalkeeper in the second half. Furthermore, Argentina created plenty at 2-1 as Australia threw defenders up top, but not before that. Australia had two great chances to tie it as well. Thought Argentina looked shaky tbh. I disagree with that, I wouldnt say Australia had control of the game at any point really, in the first half they defended well, where very compact and limited the potential passing lanes, it was very much a Newcastle under Rafa type display (One I think the Aussies should be proud of btw), but beyond that, Argentina had control of the ball, where passing it around nicely and as soon as Messi scored the first Argentina where in cruise control. It only took a freak deflected goal from a shot that was going miles over to create tensions, but even then, Argentina and namely Martinez, could and should have scored another 2/3 after that point, and it took to the very last kick for the Aussies to get there first shot on target, they barely threatened until that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pata Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, TRon said: I might be in a minority here, but I thought Argentina looked better without Di Maria. He's got lots of pace and tricks, but his end product has always looked inconsistent for me. Today they looked solid and their one touch passing and control of the game was really top notch, although they still lack a bit of bite up front. Martinez' finishing when he came on was laughable. Think Di Maria is underrated in England due to that one season in Man Utd (in which he still had 3+11 in 27 games). One of the best and most consistent wingers of the past 10-15 years IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, 54 said: I disagree with that, I wouldnt say Australia had control of the game at any point really, in the first half they defended well, where very compact and limited the potential passing lanes, it was very much a Newcastle under Rafa type display (One I think the Aussies should be proud of btw), but beyond that, Argentina had control of the ball, where passing it around nicely and as soon as Messi scored the first Argentina where in cruise control. It only took a freak deflected goal from a shot that was going miles over to create tensions, but even then, Argentina and namely Martinez, could and should have scored another 2/3 after that point, and it took to the very last kick for the Aussies to get there first shot on target, they barely threatened until that point. In terms of control, I meant as in the way the game was being played. Argentina had one shot on goal in 45 minutes of football. Neither side were being threatened. As for Argentinas chances, maybe I’n clouded by that last ditch chance by Kuol, but didn’t they all come after the 2-1 goal? As Australia were sending players forward? In normal circumstances, Argentina created what? 1 maximum 2 chances over 75minutes of football against Australia? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Love that Kuol looks like a tiny Mark Morrison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WilliamPS Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Netherlands Argentina looks quite evenly matched, looking forward to it, but don’t think either looks like being the overall winner. Two sides with a few v good players but they’re both uneven Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I reckon england should go a bit more attacking against Senegal tomorrow and win the game in the first half. Bring on more defensive minded players in2nd half: ——————small arms—————- walker ——stones—-maguire—-shaw ————rice———bellingham———- saka————-foden—————rashford ——————-Harry—————- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Holland Argentina is definitely going to ET and probably pens, they're very evenly matched and it'll take something special to split them. Argentina have Messi but I don't see any Dutch equivalent so I'd back them to knock Holland out if it comes down to brass tacks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Pata said: Think Di Maria is underrated in England due to that one season in Man Utd (in which he still had 3+11 in 27 games). One of the best and most consistent wingers of the past 10-15 years IMO. That’s true generally, but for me it is a case of him being an excellent winger in his prime, and Father Time has caught up Edited December 3, 2022 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 arg-holl 1978 was my first world cup final. amazing. the tickertape, the bbc/itv theme tunes, the "telephoned" commentary, the iconic kits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 8 hours ago, La Parka said: Wife told me to shut up ? I was watching on a plane from Vancouver to Toronto and threw my arms up in the air knocking the lasses arm across the aisle from me. I so wanted that to go in for the lad. He did brilliant, only thwarted by a very good save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 10 hours ago, huss9 said: arg-holl 1978 was my first world cup final. amazing. the tickertape, the bbc/itv theme tunes, the "telephoned" commentary, the iconic kits. And Mario Kempes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Enjoyed this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 13 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Love that Kuol looks like a tiny Mark Morrison. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Neymar is back. Been shit without him. He wasn’t great against Serbia, but his presence creates space for the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 13 hours ago, huss9 said: arg-holl 1978 was my first world cup final. amazing. the tickertape, the bbc/itv theme tunes, the "telephoned" commentary, the iconic kits. The Ball. I want the Adidas Tango to be the official ball every WC. Iconic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Robster said: The Ball. I want the Adidas Tango to be the official ball every WC. Iconic yeah, how did i forget that. the original and the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Rio was saying that Álvarez reminds him of Tevez. Am I missing something, I never would have made that comparison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 40 minutes ago, gbandit said: Rio was saying that Álvarez reminds him of Tevez. Am I missing something, I never would have made that comparison Completely different styles - you could say Tevez was more of a 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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