gbandit Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Froggy said: What squad disharmony? The only potential disruption at the minute is Varane, which nobody really knows the details of. Ten Hag has had the backing of the squad with every decision previous to this. There's certainly no visible squad disharmony on the pitch apart from individual issues like Rashford being a stroppy fucker. Mount has played a handful of games due to injury, but he's only 24. Not even close to a flop so very silly to write him off as a waste of money. Casemiro remains to be seen, as he was one of our best performers last year despite being sloppy with discipline. He's our second top scorer this season behind Hojlund struggling with injury at the minute though. Still far too early to write him off, given how important he was to a third place finish and trophy last season. Friendly reminder about the amount of injuries/suspensions we've had. You can say what you like about squad depth or how much we've spent, but truth is our backups aren't great. A lot of our backup players have been ridiculed by opposition fans including many on here, so you don't get to turn around use them as an excuse as to why we should still be a top side. Against Everton we rode our luck again for a large period of the first half, but were at least clinical at the other end for the first time in a while. At the same time Onana, Shaw (coming off a three month injury), Fernandes and Rashford were our only starting 11 players. An argument can maybe be made for Maguire but everyone knows Varane and Martinez are our best centre backs. In comparison, Newcastle had Pope, Trippier, Schar, Guimaraes, Joelinton, Gordon and Isak who are normally starters for you. I didn't include Almiron, but he could be one as well. You tell me. We have started to get better, and will only continue to get stronger as players like Casemiro and Martinez return next year and the likes of Hojlund, Wan Bissaka, Shaw, Eriksen and Mount get back to full fitness. Disharmony relates to the numerous squad falling outs that there have been, Varane, Sancho, Rashford not being happy, potential for Greenwood to return and those are just the ones we’ve heard about. You can come back at me in time if Mount becomes a top player for you but I expect him to be a flop and I struggle to believe Casemiro is going to be a quality player for you beyond this season. I do think Hojlund has a lot of potential and a great attitude and Wan Bissaka is class, I’ve always liked Garnacho too. Your midfield is a bit of a mess though. Fernandes gets an injury and you absolutely fall apart as a team in my opinion. As an outsider who has no desire to see Man U succeed it’s been enjoyable viewing but you seem quite bullish that things are going ok so it’ll be interesting to see where you are at the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, gbandit said: As an outsider who has no desire to see Man U succeed it’s been enjoyable viewing but you seem quite bullish that things are going ok so it’ll be interesting to see where you are at the end of the season OK is a bit of a push if we're looking at the whole season. it's been poor. It's just trending in the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Froggy is funny. ETH will continue to fall out with players because he's not a good man-manager and is showing no signs of improvement. Tactically he's up and down. Few Man Utd play to their maximum potential consistently. It's been that way for a decade and it's not going to stop. Amen, God is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 6 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: Wonder how @Rod feels about the job Emery is doing, he was very vocal against him not that long ago. I'm impressed with Villas' performances so far to be honest but they will hit a bad patch and then we will see how good Emery is. Why didn't you ask me this on the 12th August (winky face)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Villa are looking like us of last season. With a better squad. And in a weaker competition than the league cup. Villa have to win a trophy or get in the CL. Anything short will feel like a failure for them deep down I'm sure. Like how finishing 5th for us would've been a sly failure at a certain point last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Froggy said: Out of curiosity, who decides what a tier 1, 2, 3 or 4 team is, and is there a list of teams in these tiers? I just based it on last season’s position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Wew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Bentancur out for two and half months. Big blow for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Pretty sure they have Bissouma and Sarr going to AFCON in January as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, SteV said: Bentancur out for two and half months. Big blow for them. Brutal for the lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, gbandit said: Brutal for the lad Shite tackle by Cash that caused it as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 hours ago, The Prophet said: 3rd with 77 points, over the last 38 games I believe. Superb form. What's particularly impressive is, those 38 games he's been here, when he arrived, we were only out of the relegation places on goal difference. He's done that whilst picking us up from such a piss poor level under Carpethead. I said a while ago on here that he's improved literally every player we have except Leon Bailey. I take that back, Bailey has been on fire lately for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Sods law there are 8 fucking fixtures in December, more than any other month in the season, when we are at breaking point with injuries with no relief in sight. I dunno how we are gonna do it but if we can somehow hang in there... The 2nd half of the season if we get our squad back together is gonna be fruitful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 https://x.com/Dan_KP/status/1729852360992637323?s=20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Ansu Fati out for a ‘long time’ according to De Zerbi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 8 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: https://x.com/Dan_KP/status/1729852360992637323?s=20 Their second half to the season will include a Spurs capitulation for sure. They’re going to be part gassed, part down on major players for a month. Add in the standard Spurs bottling and they may end up struggling to finish top six Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 28/11/2023 at 20:21, brummie said: What's particularly impressive is, those 38 games he's been here, when he arrived, we were only out of the relegation places on goal difference. He's done that whilst picking us up from such a piss poor level under Carpethead. I said a while ago on here that he's improved literally every player we have except Leon Bailey. I take that back, Bailey has been on fire lately for us. Stop plagiarising us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Updated this morning, up to 3rd after this round of games so looking good for 5th place becoming a CL spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Updated this morning, up to 3rd after this round of games so looking good for 5th place becoming a CL spot. When did the Czech Republic change to being called Czechia? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShearer Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 quite a good round for English clubs this midweek round, and others had a bit week weaker result, so England climbed up to 2nd place on coefficient list, at the moment PL 5th place worth CL group qualification. can change easily in 2 weeks time, but imo England will be in top two in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Regarding the coefficients, is it weighted higher for CL? So if us and Man u drop out its a big impact? Villa should win the ECL does that carry much weight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, TRC said: Regarding the coefficients, is it weighted higher for CL? So if us and Man u drop out its a big impact? Villa should win the ECL does that carry much weight? On 19/10/2023 at 18:14, SteV said: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/calc.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: Updated this morning, up to 3rd after this round of games so looking good for 5th place becoming a CL spot. Looks pretty good, Belgium should fall off when knockout stages come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I still find it incredibly silly that you could feasibly not know which places qualify for the CL until after the season has ended. I really thought when this was introduced that it would be a season in advance (i.e. England would have 5 places this year based on 2022/23). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, timeEd32 said: I still find it incredibly silly that you could feasibly not know which places qualify for the CL until after the season has ended. I really thought when this was introduced that it would be a season in advance (i.e. England would have 5 places this year based on 2022/23). Aye, I mean probably unlikely it goes down to the outcome of the finals, but certainly not impossible. Be an absolute bastard if we snatched fifth with a last minute winner or something on the last day, then Man City lose the CL final to Bayern meaning we only end up with four places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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