Nucasol Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'm still pretty confident Liverpool will drop points. The law of averages says they can't defend that badly for another five games and not drop points. That said they do carry more luck then any other side in the division. And bias from officials. It’s been fairly shocking this season to see when you’re actually looking more keenly at their games rather than just focusing on the shit show at the bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 On 26/04/2023 at 07:17, Heron said: Nottingham Forest (a) ✅️ --------------- ManUre ✅️ --------------- West Ham (a) ✅️ Brentford (a) ✅️ Aston Villa (a) ❌️ --------------- Spuds ✅️ --------------- Everton (a) Southampton (h) Leeds United(a) Leicester City (h) Roll on Everton... Nottingham Forest (a) ✅️ --------------- ManUre ✅️ --------------- West Ham (a) ✅️ Brentford (a) ✅️ Aston Villa (a) ❌️ --------------- Spuds ✅️ --------------- Everton (a) ✅️ Southampton (h) ✅️ Leeds United (a) Leicester City (h) When I originally did this with 13 games left I thought we had 8 quite winnable games (the ones above excluding Man United and Spurs). So far we've won 5/6 and lost 1. We have then won 2 games which I hadn't identified as more winnable, (against Man United and Spurs), thus putting us a win ahead of what I'd originally thought. With 2 wins from those identified 2 games we'd be virtually in the champions league with only a single point required. I think Champions League has to be our next target points wise, but after that (if there's time left) I'd love to see us target beating our highest ever point total in the Premier League, which, to my knowledge would require us to win every remaining game. Can see Arsenal being a draw though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, Elliottman said: 1/25 with sky. Anyone that genuinely thinks we’re going to blow it should put their savings on Liverpool at 6/1 Never won a bet in my life - the one time I entered a sweepstake on the grand National years ago and got the favourite is the year there wasn’t any winner so I might just put twenty on Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 What odds can you get on us missing out? Must be longer than those 6-1 for Liverpool making it. Might offset the potential obliteration if we bottle it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: What odds can you get on us missing out? Must be longer than those 6-1 for Liverpool making it. Might offset the potential obliteration if we bottle it. 9/1 with Skybet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Karjala said: Is there still an advantage to finishing 3rd rather than 4th concerning the Champions League? Does 3rd guarantee it, and 4th require a qualification play off first? Top four all qualify for the group stage. Which sadly means no chance of a Ketsbaia in Zagreb repeat, though happily it also means no Partizan Belgrade repeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, Heron said: Nottingham Forest (a) ✅️ --------------- ManUre ✅️ --------------- West Ham (a) ✅️ Brentford (a) ✅️ Aston Villa (a) ❌️ --------------- Spuds ✅️ --------------- Everton (a) ✅️ Southampton (h) ✅️ Leeds United (a) Leicester City (h) When I originally did this with 13 games left I thought we had 8 quite winnable games (the ones above excluding Man United and Spurs). So far we've won 5/6 and lost 1. We have then won 2 games which I hadn't identified as more winnable, (against Man United and Spurs), thus putting us a win ahead of what I'd originally thought. With 2 wins from those identified 2 games we'd be virtually in the champions league with only a single point required. I think Champions League has to be our next target points wise, but after that (if there's time left) I'd love to see us target beating our highest ever point total in the Premier League, which, to my knowledge would require us to win every remaining game. Can see Arsenal being a draw though... Likewise - I’ll think we’ll take a point vs Arsenal. I also think we’ll drop two points vs Leeds and vs Brighton, and beat Leicester and Chelsea. So I’m projecting 74 points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) We were there for almost a minute until Jota scored. I know they probably will drop points but, Liverpool really should win their remaining fixtures. We should also pick up the 7 points we need. Maybe not from the games you’d expect. Edited May 1, 2023 by Tsunami Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Likewise - I’ll think we’ll take a point vs Arsenal. I also think we’ll drop two points vs Leeds and vs Brighton, and beat Leicester and Chelsea. So I’m projecting 74 points Jesus if that's the route we do it it'll be hairy. I think we'll beat Arsenal, beat Leeds, draw with Brighton and the last two will be irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 The prem will do everything in there power to help Liverpool stay in the top 4 and they already are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) We will beat Leeds, they are woeful. We also get 3 points against Leicester which means a draw against either Arsenal or Brighton and we are there. Chelsea will be a free hit last game of season. Subject to injuries. Edited May 1, 2023 by Broadsword Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 At this point in time I reckon we'll get 9 points from the last 5 with no more losses. Arsenal (draw) Leeds (win) Brighton (draw) Leicester (win) Chelsea (draw) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 You'd have to say that Spurs are almost certainly out of the race now so that's one rival down. We'd need to basically lose every game and they'd need to win every one to catch us. As it is, you can see Brighton finishing above Spurs easily, and maybe Villa too. Would be great to see them out of Europe, mainly because I can't stand Levy. But as for us - I just keep looking at the league table in disbelief and watching us dismantle team after team. It's Europe in some form or another for us and most likely champions league now. What a season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 We need another two points to guarantee Spurs and Villa can't finish above us. Most likely one given out vastly superior goal difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) Did this again with what I felt is the worst case scenario for us, including losing to Brighton on Thursday. Edited May 1, 2023 by Froggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 3 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said: £2m in prize money to throw on the FFP pile Not just that, we get increased percentage from Ucl TV money if we finish 3rd instead of 4th, which amounts to around £5m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Heron said: At this point in time I reckon we'll get 9 points from the last 5 with no more losses. Arsenal (draw) Leeds (win) Brighton (draw) Leicester (win) Chelsea (draw) I’ve gone 7 - think Leeds will scab a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) Leeds are utter shite, but I think that will be the surprise game where we don’t win. There’ll be a hell of atmosphere down there, plenty of needle - and I think they’ll sneak a draw. I don’t think it will get to the last day though - Liverpool will drop points in one of those games minimum edit: hope we smash them though. I’m old enough to have an ingrained hatred for Leeds Edited May 1, 2023 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Leeds is arguably our most winnable fixture left. Their last few results have been... A 4-1 defeat at Bournemouth. A 1-1 draw at home to Leicester. A 2-1 defeat at Fulham. A 6-1 home defeat v Liverpool. A 5-1 home defeat v Palace. The fans have turned on the players and the new manager already. They don't look like they have much fight in them at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 If we drew with them again. 2 points against this Leeds side over the season would be disappointing tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) Leeds is a key game for us. Looking at their recent results they've conceded in their last 10 games including 4 to Bournemouth, 6 to Liverpool, 5 to Palace and 4 to Arsenal. If we can go there and win the game with a big scoreline which we have been doing to teams recently then that will lock up our goal difference, meaning we effectively need to win just 1 more game after that. Edited May 1, 2023 by Scotty66 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 This is torture. So close but still too far. If Lucas Moura booted the ball up the park instead of losing it yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Froggy said: Did this again with what I felt is the worst case scenario for us, including losing to Brighton on Thursday. We’ve overtaken you now. I like this version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, gdm said: This is torture. So close but still too far. If Lucas Moura booted the ball up the park instead of losing it yesterday I would be relaxed if they'd held on for that, Liverpool winning their next 2 would have meant they'd have been 5 points behind having played 2 games more. So going into Arsenal and Leeds even just getting a point from those 2 would have had us 2 clear wins above them with 3 to play. Annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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