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Delighted that we're on course to finish high and at the expense of lots of teams I dislike... bit sad that we're on course to bypass a competition in which we have unfinished business and which we could feasibly win (in favour of one we can't) 

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1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

Delighted that we're on course to finish high and at the expense of lots of teams I dislike... bit sad that we're on course to bypass a competition in which we have unfinished business and which we could feasibly win (in favour of one we can't) 


If we nail 3 starting quality players, and strike well with a youth player, then i will always dream.

 

Dortmund got to the final last year and QFs this year despite being bang average at best. You will need some luck in the draw, but why not believe especially if Isak continues this level.

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1 hour ago, midds said:

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Interesting lack of draws. We’ve done very well against the bottom ten in the league, shows we’re getting more consistent as a club. Those results against Fulham are annoying as fuck 

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Just taking each game as it comes. Don't think were sauntering away here. Think we've the hardest run in of everyone.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


If we nail 3 starting quality players, and strike well with a youth player, then i will always dream.

 

Dortmund got to the final last year and QFs this year despite being bang average at best. You will need some luck in the draw, but why not believe especially if Isak continues this level.

I think the draw isn’t as relevant now you get 7 teams from four pots, instead of 3 from 3, should level out a bit in this format. 

7 minutes ago, Jonas said:

Just taking each game as it comes. Don't think were sauntering away here.

Palace will be hard and would take a point at Villa - cant see them getting turfed out of Europe and losing at home to us in the same week, bound to be a reaction. Meanwhile Forest play Spurs - got Middlesbrough 96 levels of belief in Spurs turning up.

 

 

 

Can see ange being away by then if they get knocked out of Europe, may give them a bounce. Is Peter shreeves still knocking about?

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25 minutes ago, Jonas said:

Just taking each game as it comes. Don't think were sauntering away here. Think we've the hardest run in of everyone.

 

 

 

Rather have ours than villa and chelseas

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It's a lesson to me in how imperfect a good team can be for spells, and to chill out a bit. There was a time around November and then again after the Fulham defeat that shortly followed Bournemouth where I just couldn't see us being top 5 - we just blew too many games. Yet here we are.

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1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

Delighted that we're on course to finish high and at the expense of lots of teams I dislike... bit sad that we're on course to bypass a competition in which we have unfinished business and which we could feasibly win (in favour of one we can't) 


Surely you won’t really be sad if we get CL instead of EL? 

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30 minutes ago, jack j said:

Rather have ours than villa and chelseas

 

Chelsea has the "hardest" run-in when utilizing the only "proper" metric such a thing could be judged extending beyond "vibes" (PPG average of remaining opponents in the season so far). Villa's remaining opponent's PPG is lower than ours by 0.02 PPG, so on paper an "easier" run-in.

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1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

Delighted that we're on course to finish high and at the expense of lots of teams I dislike... bit sad that we're on course to bypass a competition in which we have unfinished business and which we could feasibly win (in favour of one we can't) 

 

I feel like this too but this season a second CL season in three years would be transformative imo. In terms of keeping players, attracting players and PSR (:anguish:)

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29 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Surely you won’t really be sad if we get CL instead of EL? 

 

It would be an amazing outcome and I'd be delighted with the achievement - especially if we've really emphatically earned it - say if we finish third. I just prefer the EL as a competition and have so many demons I'd love to see vanquished by this NUFC. All of those exits in the noughties were very painful. 

 

I've no great affection for the CL and think the new format - for any PL team - is a jeopardy-free, low-stakes, bloated trudge. Way moreso than the previous format was. It's regrettable that the other tournaments are the same and (to counter my own point), the EL 'group stage' would probably make for an uninteresting campaign, due to the sheer amount of opportunities to achieve the necessary points target.  

 

If we did something remarkable like finished 2nd or 3rd I'd be more up for it because it would feel very earned. It's daft that literally a quarter of the league get into Europe's premier competition. 

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7 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

I feel like this too but this season a second CL season in three years would be transformative imo. In terms of keeping players, attracting players and PSR (:anguish:)

 

There's no doubting it would be an amazing thing for the club.

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14 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

Chelsea has the "hardest" run-in when utilizing the only "proper" metric such a thing could be judged extending beyond "vibes" (PPG average of remaining opponents in the season so far). Villa's remaining opponent's PPG is lower than ours by 0.02 PPG, so on paper an "easier" run-in.

The average PPG of Villas remaining matches is 1.48 and ours is 1.44.

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UCL is the only goal here. The EPL extra money for finishing higher is trivial. I do get what Yorkie is saying but in this age, UCL is paramount.

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3 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

The average PPG of Villas remaining matches is 1.48 and ours is 1.44.

 

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Average 1.52 PPG for our remaining opponents, 1.49 PPG for Villa's remaining opponents.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, midds said:

Forest and Chelsea playing a draw on the last day would be splendid

Not if they were 4th and 5th and we were 6th and 3 points behind.

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I thino we could have it put to bed before then all being well. Win against palace and it becomes must win for Villa really, catch them on break or take draw. Ideally seal it home to Chelsea then try and finish as high as possible. Good chance city drop points this weekend too, can see Fulham getting something off Chelsea too. 

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Feel like the current form / context of the team is a better judge than the PPG

 

E.g Bournemouth were on fire when they beat us a few month ago, best team we played all season 

 

Now I'm pretty sure Villa will get 3 points 

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16 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

Oh so they're using Home and Away PPG? I just used the raw PPG.

 

 

 

Yep, in general I don't think it matters all that much – but given that every now and then you'll find a team or two that are very good at home yet horrid away (or vice versa) – meaning if it's a season where some teams are like that, it will give better insight than the overall PPG numbers :thup: 

 

This season, Ipswich and Palace are performing vastly better away from home than they are at home. The opposite goes for Man City, Chelsea and Villa who aren't doing the same business away like they are doing at home.

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