Optimistic Nut Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: I wasn’t at anyone specific. Yep. I don’t think the Man U/Spurs model of crashing the league is ideal either which is why I think squad size will also be an issue. They can crash the league and FA Cup. But they still need a bigger squad. Momentum is good for Europe imo. Yo some degree anyway. If Palace played it right, they could aim just to do the bare minimum in the league, smash the Europa League and end up with Champions League the following season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 If Chelsea win the conference does that open up any more European places? My head is pickled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, midds said: Can't deny I'd be a bit disappointed if we fell out of the CL places at this stage, really, really want that CL football assured asap. However, the absolute worst case scenario for the end is looking like a major trophy and a place in the EL next year. That scenario still represents the best season's achievement I've ever known - the worst that can happen is still the best I've ever known. That's quite a large and shiny silver lining imo You're right obviously, it's objectively an amazing season whether we qualify for CL or not. It'd be a bit disappointing since we've spent 13 of the last 19 weeks and the last 7 within the top 5. It's not the same as the Pardew season where we hovered around 5th/6th for most of the second half of it. If we miss out, short-term I'll be disappointed but it won't be for long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, Dr Venkman said: You mean, like, on a game console? Speak for yourself, we qualified for the Anglo-Italian Cup after a superb lunchtime performance on the yard with a tennis ball in 1992. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Everton will be a tough game like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 minutes ago, toon25 said: Everton will be a tough game like We’ll be a tough game for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) Can every Poundshop Nostradamus with a half empty glass just chill the fuck out What will be, will be Stop shitting yourselves man Edited May 18 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 3 minutes ago, toon25 said: Everton will be a tough game like I'm in two minds about it. They've improved of late and have made themselves hard to beat, particularly away from home. On the other hand they have nothing to play for and could well still be hungover from today. If we get into them early, I'm not sure they'll fancy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Scrap that, just seen Branthwaite went off clutching his hamstring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 18 hours ago, Stifler said: No, that place fucks off back somewhere in Europe. Apparently not if this happens: Quote By rights, the winners of the Conference League get a place in the Europa League. If Chelsea beat Betis and finish inside the top five, there will be no change to the allocation. Chelsea will qualify for the Champions League and no other Premier League team will get their Europa League place for winning the Conference League. But if Chelsea win the Conference League and finish sixth and Newcastle finish in seventh, or Chelsea win the Conference League and Chelsea finish seventh, the Premier League gets an extra team in the Europa League, and 10 in Europe, according to ESPN's Dale Johnson. So if Chelsea win Conference and specifically finish 6th with us finishing 7th, that means we will get the extra Europa League spot? Honestly this seems so much more confusing than I thought. Even premierleague.com writes "according to ESPN's Dale Johnson" because even they don't understand it all themselves. The way I interpret this is that if a team qualifies for the same tournament (either UEL or UECL) through both a tournament win and league position, that means the PL get an extra spot in that tournament (and in Europe in general)? But it doesn't work that way for the CL I think. Arsenal winning CL would not have meant that 6th would get CL aswell? And then the spot gets passed down to 8th if Chelsea gets 7th? Do we simply have to have a team in the Conference League? Edited May 18 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 12 minutes ago, Erikse said: Arsenal winning CL would not have meant that 6th would get CL aswell? Only if they’d finished 6th or below. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 A Forest draw better than a Forest loss by my reckoning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 12 minutes ago, The Fountain said: A Forest draw better than a Forest loss by my reckoning. D>L>W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: If Palace played it right, they could aim just to do the bare minimum in the league, smash the Europa League and end up with Champions League the following season. I think a team like palace need the momentum. But aye a high midtable run then fucking off the league a bit in April and sliding is fine for them. And yeh I can see that actually happening. Think Leicester did that when they got to the Europa semi’s. I would love Palace winning the Europa league. Also they think qualifying for Europe by winning a competition is way better prep than finishing 7th or 8th tbf. You have to slay a beast to win a cup. It’s a lot mentally. The PL is so much more fun without a dominant city team. They are the only club atm with the resources (allowed) and desire to dominate English football. No American owner wants to spend the money to dominate. No other owners are allowed to dominate. If not for City and Pep. I would think we could win a PL in the next 3 years if most chips fell in our favour. 82-85 point league titles are way more achievable and exciting than 90+ point titles. Edited May 18 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 52 minutes ago, toon25 said: Everton will be a tough game like The way I look at it, we get two bites at the cherry. If we don't win today, it will be nice to have a chance to put it right against Everton at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, El Prontonise said: Some fans don't even know you can't be offside from a goal kick or a throw in. There were twitter accounts old enough to know better convinced yesterday that a keeper handling his ball outside the box is an automatic red card and not understanding why the pundits were even discussing goalscoring opportunity or not. Not naming names but I was tempted to refer one to the copy of the laws which is kept on display at the Town Moor metro station. Edited May 18 by geordiesteve710 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoricGinola Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Need West Ham to take something here, ideally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 If I knew we were to get a point today then Forest winning would be better than them drawing as gives them an even bigger incentive vs Chelsea and we would still finish above them with a draw vs Everton. Just please fucking win today and put us all out of this misery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, toon25 said: Everton will be a tough game like 1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said: We’ll be a tough game for them Been thinking about a draw all week. In an ordinary game I'd probably expect that. Hope and expect our desire and the necessity for us will make the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Been thinking about a draw all week. In an ordinary game I'd probably expect that. Hope and expect our desire and the necessity for us will make the difference. I’ve been thinking about Cindy Beale all week We’ve got the ability and mentality to beat Everton at our place in a potentially “must win” game No point stressing, we should be confident but not complacent Edited May 18 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Saying this now before the mad meltdown that will happen in this thread after our match is over today. We aren't getting anything away at Arsenal without Joelinton and Isak but it's irrelevant as we will still win next week so everyone needs to stay calm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 10 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Saying this now before the mad meltdown that will happen in this thread after our match is over today. We aren't getting anything away at Arsenal without Joelinton and Isak but it's irrelevant as we will still win next week so everyone needs to stay calm. Hopefully Isak is back next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 We are finishing 7th with no Isak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 We need one more point to be mathematically certain of Europa League, correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: We need one more point to be mathematically certain of Europa League, correct? yes due to the Forest vs City situation. But we will struggle to get it without Isak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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