The Europeometer™ (2024/25) - NUFC Qualify for Champions League

[Guest]

The one thing that might work in our favour is I think we'll lose about 10 this season, but I also think we'll convert more draws into wins to level out a bit. Can see us getting 66-70 points but Liverpool and Chelsea will get comfortably over 70. 

[Jaqen]

Top 8 looks very strong. The rest of the league is shaping up to be the poorest it's been for a while though. 

 

We should hopefully convert some of those annoying draws into wins this year but will lose a few more too. No idea where that will have us end up. 

[The College Dropout]

31 minutes ago, Irish Magpie said:

Whut?

 

Feel free to elaborate..

Pep aims to dominate possession based on positional play. 
 

dominating possession is not even our MO. 
 

Their midfields USP is technique and passing, ball control. They bought Kova to continue that style. Ours is running. We bought Tonali to continue our style. 
 

In build up Peps instructs his wingers to stay wide and provide width. We get our width from fullbacks and overlapping 8s. 
 

peps preferred wingers (Grealish, Bernardo, Mahrez) are not quick but excellent dribblers, that retain possession.  Ours are rapid but fairly poor dribblers. 
 

Until Haaland, City played the slowest football the PL has ever seen. We play at breakneck speeds. Until Haaland Pep would say his team lacks ‘verticality’. We are extremely vertical. 

[Jaqen]

Yeah we are opposite to City really. They can hold the ball so well and conserve so much energy in games. They mentally and physically tire out the opposition. You'll rarely even see Rodri get out of walking pace. Our CMs are charging around like mad all game. 

[The Butcher]

City are probably the most boring top team in recent history. They're so incredibly dull to watch.

[WilliamPS]

Signings will make a bigger difference for Newcastle as the squad was weaker to begin with E.g.

 

Shelvey then nobody > Tonali is a bigger shift than Man Utd signing Mount, Chelsea getting Caicedo etc

 

 

I reckon 5th, behind Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea. Caveat with that being reliant on a decent season for injuries. A few key players out for an extended period and it could be 8th

[Displayname]

We will have a lot stronger squad this season with Gordon, Anderson and Miley taking a step up and 3-4 signings coming in. Only losing ASM who didnt get many minutes last season.

 

Unless we plan on going to the final I think we can handle the extra games from CL just fine.

Cant be unlucky with injuries in the defence though.

[Novocastrian]

Might be imagining it but I’m sure last time we played CL we had an excellent record of winning the following PL games. Just a recollection that might not be grounded in reality. Point is, CL doesn’t automatically mean a PL drop off.

[Novocastrian]

Checked, in the 2002/2003 season we were unbeaten in the immediate PL game after a CL fixture. That’s two rounds of groups plus a preliminary fixture - 14 CL games in total. We had two draws in the following PL game an won the rest of the fixtures.

[STM]

As I see it:

 

City = Worse

Arsenal = Better

Man Utd = About the same

Liverpool = Better

Newcastle = Slightly Better

Chelsea = Better

Villa = Better

Brighton = Slightly worse 

 

Arsenal and Liverpool are going to be the real winners.

 

 

[GideonShandy]

3 hours ago, Jaqen said:

Top 8 looks very strong. The rest of the league is shaping up to be the poorest it's been for a while though. 

 

We should hopefully convert some of those annoying draws into wins this year but will lose a few more too. No idea where that will have us end up. 

I suspect that by the end of the season and probably sooner the Premier League will have divided itself into a top half -- City, Liverpool, Man Utd., Arsenal, Chelsea, us, Spurs, Brighton, Villa and West Ham -- and a bottom half (everyone else) with a big gap between them

 

[Danh1]

1 minute ago, GideonShandy said:

I suspect that by the end of the season and probably sooner the Premier League will have divided itself into a top half -- City, Liverpool, Man Utd., Arsenal, Chelsea, us, Spurs, Brighton, Villa and West Ham -- and a bottom half (everyone else) with a big gap between them

 

Not sure about West Ham mind 

[relámpago blanco]

1 minute ago, Danh1 said:

Not sure about West Ham mind 

Same, I can see them in a relegation battle. They've not signed anyone and they need to replace Rice and sign a goalscorer.

[Danh1]

30 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

Same, I can see them in a relegation battle. They've not signed anyone and they need to replace Rice and sign a goalscorer.

Have some decent players but aye, losing Rice is huge. Moyes a dinosaur too. 

[relámpago blanco]

6 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

Have some decent players but aye, losing Rice is huge. Moyes a dinosaur too. 

Yeah, they do have some great players but some are getting a little older now and Moyes is the manager as you say.  He's not Bruce but he's not a modern manager.

[The Prophet]

I don't think Brighton will be as good this year. They're going to lose arguably their best two players, plus teams started to sus De Zerbi out at the backend of last season.

[Joey47]

1 hour ago, STM said:

As I see it:

 

City = Worse

Arsenal = Better

Man Utd = About the same

Liverpool = Better

Newcastle = Slightly Better

Chelsea = Better

Villa = Better

Brighton = Slightly worse 

 

Arsenal and Liverpool are going to be the real winners.

 

 

As much as I hate to say it, Man Utd are definitely going to be better this season. Just replacing Dea Gea with Onana is going to give them a massive boost with how Ten Hag will be able to implement his style of play

[TheBrownBottle]

I think Arsenal will have a big drop-off.  Man Utd and Liverpool will be the challengers to Man City, who'll end up winning it.  The other three usual suspects + Villa and us to make up the rest of the top 8.

 

I suspect we'll finish c.7th, though I think top 8 should be the target.  Lower than that would represent a modest failure, I think.  Top 8 plus a cup run would do nicely.

[LFEE]

Surely this should be changed to the Top Fiveometer? ?

[GWN]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I think Arsenal will have a big drop-off.  Man Utd and Liverpool will be the challengers to Man City, who'll end up winning it.  The other three usual suspects + Villa and us to make up the rest of the top 8.

 

I suspect we'll finish c.7th, though I think top 8 should be the target.  Lower than that would represent a modest failure, I think.  Top 8 plus a cup run would do nicely.

 

 

The bookies have us as 15/2 second favourite fyi

[TheBrownBottle]

14 minutes ago, GWN said:

 

 

The bookies have us as 15/2 second favourite fyi

Great, and I'd be over the moon if that is the outcome.

 

Bookies odds just reflect where the money is being put, though.  It isn't a probablised outcome of the event.

[SteV]

1 hour ago, GWN said:

 

 

The bookies have us as 15/2 second favourite fyi

For what?

[jack j]

1 hour ago, GWN said:

 

 

The bookies have us as 15/2 second favourite fyi

Bookies have us 14/1 6th favourites if you mean for the title?

 

Had us 2nd favourites for a shortwhile when the season finished. Think they were banking on us going bizerk in the transfer market

 

 

Edited July 30, 2023 by jack j

[Coffee_Johnny]

Thought this thread had been put out to pasture after last season. I created a Top Six tracking thread for this season, happy to move that stuff here if you’d prefer @Rich

[Groundhog63]

34 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Thought this thread had been put out to pasture after last season. I created a Top Six tracking thread for this season, happy to move that stuff here if you’d prefer @Rich

Move it all here then, also, create a thread for which game week we think you'll have to change the thread title from "TopFouroMeter" to "TopSixoMeter" ?