HaydnNUFC Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Win 2 games and it's done for my tuppence. Would love those 2 wins to come in the next 2 games, will likely whitey if owt is riding on the Everton game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Villa still worry me the most , I would be expecting at least 10 points from them four games if it was us and 12 isn't unrealistic either . That would mean we need another 7 including beating Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Villa still worry me the most , I would be expecting at least 10 points from them four games if it was us and 12 isn't unrealistic either . That would mean we need another 7 including beating Chelsea. If we get 6 points with 3 of those vs Chelsea it probably won't matter if Villa get 12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 41 minutes ago, duo said: - my worry is they'll be at the beach They’re not going to be at the beach, they have a chance to deny Chelsea CL football, that’s a big motivation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 31 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Win 2 games and it's done for my tuppence. Would love those 2 wins to come in the next 2 games, will likely whitey if owt is riding on the Everton game. Win these two to make Arsenal a bit of a 6-pointer would be lovely. How serious will Arsenal take the Bournemouth game on Saturday for instance with the PSG second leg and nothing else to play for? Edited May 2 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nt00n313 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) Forest losing to brentford is massive I reckon, I could see them getting maybe 7 points from their remaining games (draw to palace away, lose to Chelsea, win the other two) which puts them on 67 but their gd is pretty bad. Especially with forest playing Chelsea it means we now have more potentially paths to 5th (I'll be honest before I had ruled out first missing out completely). I'm staring to think 67 points may be enough, so like a draw to Brighton and Chelsea, then a win against Everton for example. That does still ride on villa not winning every one of their remaining games mind. Edited May 2 by t00nt00n313 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonAbroad Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Annoying ahead of their Chelsea game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 13 minutes ago, ToonAbroad said: Annoying ahead of their Chelsea game. They have a pretty good squad tbf, and no way Salah doesn’t play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 It's in our hands. No need to threat what others do or don't do. If we don't make it we didn't deserve too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Liverpool winning the league so early was always going to be bad news. I had Chelsea and Villa missing out a week ago but now I think it’s Forest and Villa. Still getting to 68 points should be enough regardless. Maybe 69 at a push as Chelsea’s GD is on par with us. Beating Chelsea has always been imperative. We need the Chelsea and Forest game to matter for both sides. If either Forest or Chelsea already have 69 we are in trouble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Liverpool will still want to win their remaining games, they can finish on 94 points which would be the highest points tally for champions since they last won it, and would put to bed the criticism that they've won the league by default. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Couldn’t care about Liverpool rotating and being off it. We get a point this weekend, win our homes games, we’ve got top 5. Comfortably in our hands which is all that matters. Regardless what happens this weekends. It’s still in our hands with 3 to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 36 minutes ago, Andy said: Liverpool will still want to win their remaining games, they can finish on 94 points which would be the highest points tally for champions since they last won it, and would put to bed the criticism that they've won the league by default. Who cares? 18 minutes ago, Sibierski said: We get a point this weekend, win our homes games, we’ve got top 5. Comfortably in our hands which is all that matters. Regardless what happens this weekends. It’s still in our hands with 3 to go. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 hours ago, The College Dropout said: It’s good that Forest are faltering. The fixtures have dropped nicely for Chelsea in terms of their Man U and Liverpool fixtures. That’s 4-6 points imo. If they can beat one of us or Forest that will secure CL for them - maybe even just 1 draw. I’ve long felt 68 points would seal it for us and sticking with that. I was always hoping that Forest would come unstuck. Not because I've got anything against them, just there was always more chance of them failing than Chelsea or Villa. Would prefer Villa nd Chelsea to fail, but Forest was always a hopeful safety net for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nt00n313 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 It's just occured to me that if we win all our remaining games (unlikely but not completely unplausible) we would very likely finish the league in second. Can always dream anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 9 minutes ago, TRon said: I was always hoping that Forest would come unstuck. Not because I've got anything against them, just there was always more chance of them failing than Chelsea or Villa. Would prefer Villa nd Chelsea to fail, but Forest was always a hopeful safety net for us. If not for Liverpool winning the title so early I didn’t fancy Chelsea to get more than 67 points. I now reckon they beat Liverpool and would come to us looking for a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 2 minutes ago, t00nt00n313 said: It's just occured to me that if we win all our remaining games (unlikely but not completely unplausible) we would very likely finish the league in second. Can always dream anyway I agree with that. Especially considering we have to play them still so that would mean they only have to lose one game in the other 3. Unlikely, as you say, but I think finishing 2nd is currently more likely than finishing 7th for example. Edited May 2 by Mazzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Forest are faltering but still have 3 of the easiest fixtures in the PL and a 6 pointer. West Ham and Leicester are 2 of the worst teams in the Division. Palace will be distracted by their biggest game ever coming up. Forest might fuck it up but I expect they will have a minimum of 64 points by the end of GW37. Which is ideal for us. I think Chelsea will have 64/66 at that point too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 5 minutes ago, Mazzy said: I agree with that. Especially considering we have to play them still so that would mean they only have to lose one game in the other 3. Unlikely, as you say, but I think finishing 2nd is currently more likely than finishing 7th for example. You’re projecting Arsenal lose 2 games out of their last 4. They’ve lost 3 in 34. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Forest are faltering but still have 3 of the easiest fixtures in the PL and a 6 pointer. West Ham and Leicester are 2 of the worst teams in the Division. Palace will be distracted by their biggest game ever coming up. Forest might fuck it up but I expect they will have a minimum of 64 points by the end of GW37. Which is ideal for us. I think Chelsea will have 64/66 at that point too. Away to Palace is not an easy fixture and certainly not for a Forest side low on confidence, low on energy and getting beaten regularly of late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: You’re projecting Arsenal lose 2 games out of their last 4. They’ve lost 3 in 34. Oh yes totally impossible isn't it, sorry about that..... How about losing ONE game a drawing TWO, is that a better projection? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 21 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said: Away to Palace is not an easy fixture and certainly not for a Forest side low on confidence, low on energy and getting beaten regularly of late. They tend to be better away. Have nothing to play for in the league. Cup final coming up. We seem to dip a bit ahead of finals, assume Palace will too. Teams you would prefer to face: bottom 3 Spurs man U West Ham & Palace The rest is a tough game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySolano Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 i must be the only one that hates this "draw and win one" stick from everyone. I am trying to do the math to finish 2nd. Win out and 2nd is ours, and I see no reason to think its not possible. Likely might be too far, but win at the Amex this weekend and I think Howe and the lads will believe it themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Usually in a two option outcome, in this case yes or no, if something was 1/8 (odds on) the other option would be around 5/1 (odds against). Mind, not many traditional bookies, bar Paddy Power, seem to offer top 5 odds, most seem to still just be doing top 4 odds, so it will be very tough outside of betting exchanges, to be able to get direct odds for Newcastle 'not to finish in the top 5'. In terms of traditional bookies, as others point out, you can't really hedge bets, because you could put £100 on Forest to make the top 5 at 4/5 and it could still be Newcastle and Forest finishing 6th and 7th, and you've wasted £100 and haven't even got the 'emotional' outcome in place of Newcastle securing their place. If someone was offering 9/2 or 5/1 for Newcastle to finish outside the top 5, which seems to be what they would be if someone was offering, then I'd definitely be putting money on because it feels really close, and Sunday is a huge match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: They tend to be better away. Have nothing to play for in the league. Cup final coming up. We seem to dip a bit ahead of finals, assume Palace will too. Teams you would prefer to face: bottom 3 Spurs man U West Ham & Palace The rest is a tough game It could play out differently though. Palace will want to continue their momentum (the cup final is a way off yet). You don’t want to be going into a final off the back of bad results. We beat West Ham going into the Carabao cup and I think that was huge compared to our poor form going into the Man U final. forest were really bad against Brentford and Everton. Also, at least with Man U, Amorim can’t just keep losing games indefinitely. They also have the benefit of having an opposition player sent off against them every week and Villa never, ever, ever win at Old Trafford regardless of the circumstances. So I can see a world where Villa and Forest drop a good few more points yet. that said, probably just best focus on doing the biz against Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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