Paully Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Palace will do us a favour tonight and we’ll beat Chelsea on Sunday - KEEMON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 46 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: We are only ahead of Chelsea on goals scored. If we dont beat Chelsea and we finish level on points and GD, Chelsea would finish above on head to head. H2H is a last resort tie breaker in the U.K. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Stifler said: H2H is a last resort tie breaker in the U.K. Yeah Points GD Goals Scored Head 2 Head What i said in my original post was if we have the same points and GD, potentially it could come down to head to head particularly with us having the more difficult remaining fixtures Edited May 5 by JigsawGoesToPieces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 53 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Yeah Points GD Goals Scored Head 2 Head What i said in my original post was if we have the same points and GD, potentially it could come down to head to head particularly with us having the more difficult remaining fixtures Same points, GD AND same goals scored before h2h comes into it. But given we’re 4 goals ahead it would take a fairly odd set of results over the last two games for it to come down to that, so I wouldn’t fret. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 3 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: As long as one of the wins is Chelsea then it will Exactly. As although Chelsea could still pass us on GD they'd have to beat Forest to do that, meaning the best Forest could get would be 69, and they'd have to overturn a nine goals difference. One of them could pass us but not both. That may even improve tonight if Forest don't beat Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) so hard to predict but I think there's a good chance ourselves, Chelsea, Forest and Villa all go into the last game on 66 points assuming that we beat Chelsea and lose to Arse Chelsea lose to us and beat MU Forest lose to Palace, then beat Wham and Leicester Villa beat Bournemouth and Spurs above scenario is not ideal as final day could be excruciatingly stressful would still back us to beat Everton at home which should be enough Edited May 5 by Ginola14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leemond Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Need the same level of support the lads got at Wembley this Sunday. Its just as big of a game as the cup final was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 16 minutes ago, Ginola14 said: so hard to predict but I think there's a good chance ourselves, Chelsea, Forest and Villa all go into the last game on 66 points assuming that we beat Chelsea and lose to Arse Chelsea lose to us and beat MU Forest lose to Palace, then beat Wham and Leicester Villa beat Bournemouth and Spurs above scenario is not ideal as final day could be excruciatingly stressful would still back us to beat Everton at home which should be enough Be quite happy if this turned out true. Chelsea Forest play each other and Villa have a terrible goal difference, so it would be a great opportunity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 6 hours ago, bobbydazzla said: Are we the most pessimistic fans in the whole entire world? Asking for a friend Weirdly I saw a thing with a few 40odd year old Man City fans and they are still like us, expecting bad things to happen despite the last decade plus of evidence to the contrary. So by my reckoning it might just be a genuine fan thing tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Ginola14 said: so hard to predict but I think there's a good chance ourselves, Chelsea, Forest and Villa all go into the last game on 66 points assuming that we beat Chelsea and lose to Arse Chelsea lose to us and beat MU Forest lose to Palace, then beat Wham and Leicester Villa beat Bournemouth and Spurs above scenario is not ideal as final day could be excruciatingly stressful would still back us to beat Everton at home which should be enough Id take this scenario now. Beat Chelsea and Everton at home to secure CL has always been likely anyway. Because of our GD we can be level on points going into the final game. What we don’t want is to need other results to go in our favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) Beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and it's going to be very hard, it's as simple as that . Always expected Chelsea to win yesterday so nothing has changed really with that result . Edited May 5 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 minute ago, Geogaddi said: Beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and it's going to be very hard, it's as simple as that . This is basically the score. Fail to beat Chelsea we’d have to beat Arsenal away instead an hope results go for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 We'd probably need to go to Arsenal and get a result if we don't beat them which isn't ideal. Could do with Arsenal knocking PSG out as painful and unlikely as that'll be, just to keep them distracted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: We'd probably need to go to Arsenal and get a result if we don't beat them which isn't ideal. Could do with Arsenal knocking PSG out as painful and unlikely as that'll be, just to keep them distracted. Yes I get that point but equally Arsenal winning the champions league is a hideous one. I actually think m if they get knocked out there might be a bit of a hangover anyway. They’ll still qualify for CL so maybe they just be a bit flat in general with “season over” scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 11 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and it's going to be very hard, it's as simple as that. This is where I’m at. I think we are more than capable of getting 3 points from our final 2 games, possibly 4, depending on which Arsenal turns up. I’m just not convinced that we’ll beat Chelsea. It will be a hard game, if we had Joelinton I’d have a lot more faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Ginola14 said: so hard to predict but I think there's a good chance ourselves, Chelsea, Forest and Villa all go into the last game on 66 points assuming that we beat Chelsea and lose to Arse Chelsea lose to us and beat MU Forest lose to Palace, then beat Wham and Leicester Villa beat Bournemouth and Spurs above scenario is not ideal as final day could be excruciatingly stressful would still back us to beat Everton at home which should be enough We’re just not losing away to Arsenal without something going drastically wrong or a huge slice of luck in their favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Palace v Forest and Bournemouth v Villa are huge games. If they could both avoid away wins then we could go into Sunday knowing a win would all but guarantee us top 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 hours ago, Ginola14 said: so hard to predict but I think there's a good chance ourselves, Chelsea, Forest and Villa all go into the last game on 66 points assuming that we beat Chelsea and lose to Arse Chelsea lose to us and beat MU Forest lose to Palace, then beat Wham and Leicester Villa beat Bournemouth and Spurs above scenario is not ideal as final day could be excruciatingly stressful would still back us to beat Everton at home which should be enough Sky would be wanking themselves to death if that's the scenario that unfolds. Would be gripping to be fair, would still make me sick with the wankfest they'll be if Chelsea make it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Imagine Pickford at SJP if we don't get CL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Win the two home games and that’s it almost certainly done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nt00n313 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 What could be an interesting scenario now. If villa don't win all their remaining games (so they draw one and win 2), and we draw to Chelsea but win against arsenal or everton (latter more likely), Chelsea beat man u, forest beat west ham and Leicester. We could get cl with 67 points assuming the forest vs Chelsea match doesn't end in a draw, so as long as someone gets beat (with the loser not getting CL). If they got a draw in this scenario they'd both finish above us. Would be an interesting match, would they both just play for a draw in that scenario knowing if they don't attack they risk the other getting a goal and knocking them out, could get all game theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, t00nt00n313 said: What could be an interesting scenario now. If villa don't win all their remaining games (so they draw one and win 2), and we draw to Chelsea but win against arsenal or everton (latter more likely), Chelsea beat man u, forest beat west ham and Leicester. We could get cl with 67 points assuming the forest vs Chelsea match doesn't end in a draw, so as long as someone gets beat (with the loser not getting CL). If they got a draw in this scenario they'd both finish above us. Would be an interesting match, would they both just play for a draw in that scenario knowing if they don't attack they risk the other getting a goal and knocking them out, could get all game theory. If there is a scenario where drawing gets both of them CL they absolutely will play for the draw like We just have to focus on beating Chelsea to take any chances of them having a friendly between them away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Actually think we’ll get 4 more points, whether 67 will be enough for 5th who knows. Either way it’ll have been a season to remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Going down to the wire most likely. All depends on who’s got the biggest balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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