The Europeometer™ (2024/25) - NUFC Qualify for Conference League (at least)

[Superior Acuña]

So does 19th get in the Europa League?

[Superior Acuña]

5 hours ago, SteV said:

Obviously would have loved to have finished second, have CL boxed off, and gone into next weekend with a degree of freedom - but - these high pressure, high reward games, laced with jeopardy is it what it’s all about. The place will be jumping if we get it done.

Yep, year after year with nothing to play for. Apart from 11/12 the closest it got to this intense were those two failed relegation fights, and promotion. 

[Optimistic Nut]

5 hours ago, SteV said:

Obviously would have loved to have finished second, have CL boxed off, and gone into next weekend with a degree of freedom - but - these high pressure, high reward games, laced with jeopardy is it what it’s all about. The place will be jumping if we get it done.

 

If we're doing things right, then we're going to have end of seasons like this more often than not. We're not always going to be in a scenario where it's in our hands to beat a bottom half team at home to qualify for the Champions League.

[ExiledGeordie]

It’s been a brilliant season winning a cup for the first time in 70 years and whatever happens Howe and the players deserve huge amounts of credit. I do think missing CL considering where we’ve been sitting and what it could mean and the ramifications on recruitment and PSR it’d be a massive missed opportunity and a bit of a low and deflating at least temporarily. 

 

“If” we haven’t got it in us to put Everton away on Sunday (I think we will for that matter) then we will have to accept we just haven’t quite been good enough. 

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by ExiledGeordie

[bobbydazzla]

Lads and lasses, if you can’t deal with the so called “jeopardy” that comes with being a successful competitive side, then you really should get some proper counselling for NUFC PTSD so you can start to enjoy life again 

 

We’ve won a cup, we’re in pole position to qualify for the CL and yet there’s people on here acting like the Sword of Damocles is hanging over our heads

 

If you can’t feel positive about our current situation then you’ve definitely got some serious issues with anxiety, perspective and catastrophic thinking 

 

Enjoy it man. Stop fretting. The sky isn’t falling in.
What will be, will be  

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by bobbydazzla

[NSG]

9 hours ago, gdm said:

Just noticed Everton have lost only 3 of their last 17 games

 

 

Only won 3 of their last 12 mind. Draw specialists. 

[Groundhog63]

1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said:

Lads and lasses, if you can’t deal with the so called “jeopardy” that comes with being a successful competitive side, then you really should get some proper counselling for NUFC PTSD so you can start to enjoy life again 

 

We’ve won a cup, we’re in pole position to qualify for the CL and yet there’s people on here acting like the Sword of Damocles is hanging over our heads

 

If you can’t feel positive about our current situation then you’ve definitely got some serious issues with anxiety, perspective and catastrophic thinking 

 

Enjoy it man. Stop fretting. The sky isn’t falling in.
What will be, will be  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well said 

 

I'm thoroughly looking forward to next Sunday. 

[gdm]

9 minutes ago, NSG said:

Only won 3 of their last 12 mind. Draw specialists. 

Aye but a draw might not be enough 

[Optimistic Nut]

1 minute ago, gdm said:

Aye but a draw might not be enough 

 

Thankfully Man Utd have been able to draw with Liverpool, City & Arsenal at home so they are just as likely to be able to draw with Villa as Everton are away to us?

[Dr Venkman]

4 minutes ago, gdm said:

Aye but a draw might not be enough 

[James]

This is the most difficult league in the world, underlined by the fact that two strugglers are in the Europa League final.

 

the fact that we went into game 37 with second place in our hands and nearly won the game is incredible progress. This is the best season in my lifetime regardless of what happens against Everton.

[The Prophet]

Imagine Villa are hosting Everton final day and we have to go to Old Trafford. No thanks.

[Boey_Jarton]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Imagine Villa are hosting Everton final day and we have to go to Old Trafford. No thanks.

This. And the goal difference is in our favour. We are in a very privileged position

[500bhp]

Next season we need to improve our away record against top half teams. It's shite frankly. P9 W1 D1 L7 and no clean sheets. If you include current teams at 11-13 it's still only one win. That's two thirds of the league. 

 

We lose too easily away at the top teams. I'm sure Howe will be onto this already. 

[patrone]

9 hours ago, DoricGinola said:

 

There's no comparison between CL and Europa League IMO.

I never said there was 🤷

 

However, we'd have a great chance at another trophy, and it's also a route to the UCL

 

Win a trophy and finish top 6 and STILL people moan 🤦

 

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by patrone

[St1pe]

Had a scroll back a couple of pages but can’t seen an answer - Are we Europa League place minimum now aside from a goal difference overhaul? 

[ExiledGeordie]

5 minutes ago, 500bhp said:

Next season we need to improve our away record against top half teams. It's shite frankly. P9 W1 D1 L7 and no clean sheets. If you include current teams at 11-13 it's still only one win. That's two thirds of the league. 

 

We lose too easily away at the top teams. I'm sure Howe will be onto this already. 

Need more clinical goal threats other than Isak

[SUPERTOON]

3 minutes ago, St1pe said:

Had a scroll back a couple of pages but can’t seen an answer - Are we Europa League place minimum now aside from a goal difference overhaul? 

Yep.

[The Prophet]

8 minutes ago, 500bhp said:

Next season we need to improve our away record against top half teams. It's shite frankly. P9 W1 D1 L7 and no clean sheets. If you include current teams at 11-13 it's still only one win. That's two thirds of the league. 

 

We lose too easily away at the top teams. I'm sure Howe will be onto this already. 

 

Think that will take care of itself with adding more quality to the side.

[54]

This thread and the match thread are going to be anxiety ridden all week arn't they?  

[bobbydazzla]

10 minutes ago, 54 said:

This thread and the match thread are going to be anxiety ridden all week arn't they?  

 

Only if we let the lunatics take over the asylum

 

I'm on a pure buzz for Sunday

 

In 2021 I couldn't stand the sight of the hollowed out shell of what used to be my football club

In early 2022 we were staring down the barrel of relegation 

Now it's 2025 we have a trophy in the bag, Europe in the bag and a very strong chance of ending the season with our second CL qualification in 3 years

 

And I'll be there. Making a racket. With a positive attitude. Doing my little bit to give the lads the backing they need to get the job done

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by bobbydazzla

[Keegans Export]

17 minutes ago, St1pe said:

Had a scroll back a couple of pages but can’t seen an answer - Are we Europa League place minimum now aside from a goal difference overhaul? 

That's right. To finish 7th we'd need;

 

Villa win/draw

Forest win

Newcastle lose by at least 4 goals

 

eg. Forest 2-1 Chelsea, Newcastle 0-4 Everton would (I think) have Chelsea in 6th above us on goal difference (+19 to +18)

[Sibierski]

28 minutes ago, 500bhp said:

Next season we need to improve our away record against top half teams. It's shite frankly. P9 W1 D1 L7 and no clean sheets. If you include current teams at 11-13 it's still only one win. That's two thirds of the league. 

 

We lose too easily away at the top teams. I'm sure Howe will be onto this already. 

Do think the 3-4-3 we will see a lot more of next season in those away games. Ensures our CBs get a good amount of games, then that added star power in final third can win games.

 

Whats balanced it out is the home form against similar top sides. We’re always competitive and those sides will see a point as a big result.

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Sibierski

[gdm]

1 hour ago, Dr Venkman said:

I think we’ll win but I’m just pointing it out.

 

lets be honest we can chat all week about permatations, statistics and form but football is mental. We could lose a pen and get a man sent off after 10 mins or hopefully Everton could. If we could predict it we’d all be millionaires. 

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by gdm

[St1pe]

4 hours ago, Keegans Export said:

That's right. To finish 7th we'd need;

 

Villa win/draw

Forest win

Newcastle lose by at least 4 goals

 

eg. Forest 2-1 Chelsea, Newcastle 0-4 Everton would (I think) have Chelsea in 6th above us on goal difference (+19 to +18)

Good because even if we “failed” at the weekend it still ends on a cracking season where Conference League would have been incredibly meh