Decky Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr Venkman said: That's ass backwards logic if ever I've seen it. Is it? 6 of the 10 home games are teams in the top 8 so its a harder set of home games than the first half of the season, just facts really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, Decky said: Is it? 6 of the 10 home games are teams in the top 8 so its a harder set of home games than the first half of the season, just facts really. Ok. Home games are inherently more likely to bring positive results, though, so the inference is clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said: Ok. Home games are inherently more likely to bring positive results, though, so the inference is clear. They are more likely but by the same logic away games are more likely to bring negative results and for the rest of the season, for the most part, we've the easier teams on paper away from home and the tougher teams at home so the second half of the season could be seen as harder than the first half in that regard. For whats its worth I think we'll beat Man Utd, Liverpool and Spurs at home but they'll definitely give us more of a game than Forest and the like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I get the inference, but I'm not sure I agree with it. We're better at home than away and we've struggled the most in games where a team shows up for a draw. That won't happen with the better teams at SJP and it's at least less likely to happen playing the worse teams at their place. Our most important games in the second half of the season (Liverpool, Spurs, Man United) are all at home. Couldn't script the remainder of the season much better IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I think the second half of the season is more favourable, especially if we make some decent signings. But I'm just saying that looking at the graphic on the previous page there is also an argument to be made that our toughest tests are yet to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, Decky said: They are more likely but by the same logic away games are more likely to bring negative results and for the rest of the season, for the most part, we've the easier teams on paper away from home and the tougher teams at home so the second half of the season could be seen as harder than the first half in that regard. For whats its worth I think we'll beat Man Utd, Liverpool and Spurs at home but they'll definitely give us more of a game than Forest and the like. I'm disagreeing agreeably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I honestly think anyone except Wood against Leeds and we get 3 points,could even have nicked it against Arsenal with someone more mobile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King HTT III Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The top 4 is ours to lose, we can do this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The reaction from Liverpool and Arsenal supporters after those respective games just had me wondering who would have the biggest meltdown if they were to finish in 5th behind us - Liverpool or Man Utd? I think it's Liverpool, spurred on by their manager, and it would be fucking hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) If we've played the hardest games away and had positive results, the easier games at home and had positive results, then switching those things around is a good thing on paper and all else being equal. Football is chaos though so we'll see. Edited January 4, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: The reaction from Liverpool and Arsenal supporters after those respective games just had me wondering who would have the biggest meltdown if they were to finish in 5th behind us - Liverpool or Man Utd? I think it's Liverpool, spurred on by their manager, and it would be fucking hilarious. I'd say Liverpool. Man Utd fans wouldn't be happy either but I think there's more of an opinion that Ten Hag is building something and its not necessarily about this season, more of a long term thing. Liverpool fans though seem to think they're God's gift to football and they're better than everyone. They'd be horrified at not having Champions League football next year. Klopp is already laying down the excuses for it with his bollocks about not being able to compete with oil rich clubs. Edited January 4, 2023 by Decky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Decky said: I'd say Liverpool. Man Utd fans wouldn't be happy either but I think there's more of an opinion that Ten Hag is building something and its not necessarily about this season, more of a long term thing. Liverpool fans though seem to think they're God's gift to football and they're better than everyone. They'd be horrified at not having Champions League football next year. Klopp is already laying down the excuses for it with his bollocks about not being able to compete with oil rich clubs. On the whole I think you are right but I’m aware of some Man Utd fans who cling on to the fact that they have never finished below NUFC in the PL, and that is going to be seen as another nail in the coffin for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Rattling some cages the lads are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Wouldn’t be surprised at all if a Man Utd fan suggested hiring a hitman on Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I don't even know what benefit we'd get out of that outside of our game with them which isn't for another three months? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The fact that he slotted right into the subs makes me wonder if Darlow and Karius are ill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: The reaction from Liverpool and Arsenal supporters after those respective games just had me wondering who would have the biggest meltdown if they were to finish in 5th behind us - Liverpool or Man Utd? I think it's Liverpool, spurred on by their manager, and it would be fucking hilarious. Unless we have a good transfer window, don't think we'll finish above either - but pool every time if it were to happen! Klopp has been behaving like a total prick for a long while now, and the fans are like a fucking cult. Not forgetting that many on RAWK were in favour of the Super League breakaway - it's where they belong apparently. The average domestic club is beneath them Edited January 4, 2023 by Turnbull2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahnSahf Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Rattling some cages the lads are ? That's 1982 Soviet Council of Ministers level paranoia right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Elliottman said: Spurs lost 11 and finished 4th last season, Chelsea 6 and finished 3rd. Season before 3rd and 4th both lost 9 and 2nd 6. Are we really going to lose a 3rd of our remaining games? Get a couple of quality additions + Isak and we have a massive shout of top 4. Points total means more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Points total means more. Well … yes of course, if you lost 1 and drew 37 it wouldn’t be a great. Was pointing out though that the one loss so far puts us in a great position for the second half of the season if we can make a couple of quality additions to turn draws to wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) Big month and a bit coming up for this. Hope we can get an addition or two in in the window with cup matches coming up, hope Sheff Wed don't take us to a replay. Especially if we get past Leicester and have a two legged midweek semi final in the League Cup. Fixtures for the clubs around us up to the end of February, not including Arsenal or Man City as they're shoe-ins. Newcastle Fulham (h) Palace (a) West Ham (h) Bournemouth (a) Liverpool (h) Brighton (h) Man Utd Man City (h) Arsenal (a) Palace (h) Leeds (a) Leicester (h) Brentford (h) Liverpool Brighton (a) Chelsea (h) Wolves (a) Everton (h) Newcastle (a) Palace (a) Spurs Arsenal (h) Man City (a) Fulham (a) Man City (h) Leicester (a) West Ham (h) Chelsea (h) Chelsea Man City (h) Fulham (a) Palace (h) Liverpool (a) Fulham (h) West Ham (a) Southampton (h) Spurs (a) Need to take advantage of our next 4 games as many of those around us are playing the top 2 in that time and later on in February they all play each other. Absolutely massive that we have those clubs at SJP in the run in sans Chelsea. Edited January 4, 2023 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Tonight sums up why Spurs are a pain in the arse. They're average but can win games out of nothing like this just because of a few individuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: Tonight sums up why Spurs are a pain in the arse. They're average but can win games out of nothing like this just because of a few individuals. They have some tough fixtures coming up, so hopefully we've built a decent sized gap in 6 games time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) Spurs and Man U both have tough games coming up. Potential to get a bit of a lead again, if we keep up our end of the bargain. Man U have City and then Arsenal. Edit: Just look further up the page at what @HaydnNUFChas posted Edited January 4, 2023 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Aye I hadn't realised that Spurs' biggest coup of the season was a draw with Chelsea. The best teams they've played are us, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Man United, and they've lost all of them. They have Arsenal and Man City twice coming up. In April they play us, Man United, Liverpool in a row as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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