The Europeometer™ (2024/25)

[buzza]

I reckon we will get 9 points from those four matches. 7 points as a minimum.

This is in the bag!

[PauloGeordio]

Morning all! 
 

[LiquidAK]

If Longstaff is out for the season that does present a challenge. Our midfield hasn't seemed to click yet without him in it. Not many games left to experiment but I'm confident Howe will find a solution against Leeds

[Stifler]

I honestly think we’ll go into the Leicester game knowing that either a draw or at worst, a win will guarantee Champions League football, that is assuming Liverpool don’t slip up between now and then.

[TRon]

11 hours ago, Shadow Puppets said:

You can quite clearly see, from every angle, that his shorts move as it hits his knee.

 

It could be argued that the player's movement caused the shorts moving, it's not necessarily the ball. I'm not 100% convinced on the pen, the defender didn't protest that much at the time from what I recall.

[Stifler]

The penalty call is hard to take because he clearly moved his hand towards where the ball was going. His intention was to block it with his hand, before his secondary reaction of ‘I can’t touch it with my hand’ kicks in. So the intent was there.

Like I say, I honestly think it would have been given the other way around, and we actually had it given against us against Brentford recently.

[The Prophet]

15 minutes ago, LiquidAK said:

If Longstaff is out for the season that does present a challenge. Our midfield hasn't seemed to click yet without him in it. Not many games left to experiment but I'm confident Howe will find a solution against Leeds

 

Leeds are the side we should get away with it against. It's against Brighton who can play through the lines and expose the back line where he'll be most needed.

[TRon]

Leeds and Leicester are the two wins we need. That will make the games against Brighton and Chelsea a free hit. Beating the side with worse players is always the easier option regardless of home or away.

[LiquidAK]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Leeds are the side we should get away with it against. It's against Brighton who can play through the lines and expose the back line where he'll be most needed.

 

Yeah Brighton are going to be a very stern test.

 

Thinking in terms of managers, absolutely believe that Howe has enough about him to get the points needed out of Allardyce, Smith & Lampard. We've shown even when we don't start games well he's switched on and will adjust accordingly.

[Likelylad]

I do like the fact Shearer went at him there because there’s a real issue with the likes of Gallagher and Walton backing their former colleagues to the hilt and it almost become laughable.

 

About time someone took umbrage with it tbh.

[gdm]

trying to think more positively
 

I Think Brighton might be the draw we need after hopefully a win v Leeds and Leicester.

 

I think the way Liverpool are playing they’ll drop points to Villa. Wouldn’t shock me if Leicester win today then push on and grab something v Liverpool.

 

man Utd look shot to bits regardless of who their fixture are against. Wolves are in good form

 

let’s get it done

[ExiledGeordie]

We should have it wrapped up in the next 3 games really. A win at Leeds and we’re almost home and hosed. 6 points will probably do it bar a massive gf swing and I’d bet on us winning two of the next 3 and probably drawing one as mentioned above. 

[Kanj]

Brighton are good but not invincible. They’ve had some odd results last month tbh. We play them under the lights on Thursday too. 

 

 

Edited May 8, 2023 by Kanji

[The Fountain]

16 hours ago, wormy said:

You have to make Liverpool favourites now. 

You'd be a terrible bookmaker.

[duo]

1 hour ago, madras said:

Looks to me like it hits leg and arm simultaneously. The fact that we are having the conversation means it wasn't clear and obvious.

I think people are missing the point here - if it 'hadn't' been given as a Pen then I agree based on the VAR footage you can't give it.  However, as it was given looking at the VAR footage you can't say for certain it hits his knee.  Thereby the Ref shouldn't overrule it.  It is simple as that.  Them are the rules they should be following - 'clear and obvious' error.  I don't know how the Refs are getting such a simple concept so completely wrong.  Just look at the Man U shout - however that was the complete opposite, you can clearly see he moves his arm to the ball - Pen.  But wasn't given.

[Cf]

Not followed all this but it clearly came off his leg. Why is this a discussion?

 

We'd be fuming if that was given against us. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, madras said:

It is but thems the rules.

 

But what might look clear and obvious to one person, might not to someone else. It's still a case of it falling to someone's opinion. 

[Disco]

20 minutes ago, Kanji said:

Brighton are good but not invincible. They’ve had some odd results last month tbh. We play them under the lights on Thursday too. 

 

 

 

They still have to play City (h) and Arsenal, us and Villa (a) too. All in their hands but you’d make a quick buck if you backed them to win all those games. 
 

We need to just bounce back against Leeds which I think we’ll do. Early goal and we’re all laughing.

[Shadow Puppets]

3 minutes ago, duo said:

I think people are missing the point here - if it 'hadn't' been given as a Pen then I agree based on the VAR footage you can't give it.  However, as it was given looking at the VAR footage you can't say for certain it hits his knee.  Thereby the Ref shouldn't overrule it.  It is simple as that.  Them are the rules they should be following - 'clear and obvious' error.  I don't know how the Refs are getting such a simple concept so completely wrong.  Just look at the Man U shout - however that was the complete opposite, you can clearly see he moves his arm to the ball - Pen.  But wasn't given.

I think you're shouting into a void. It's absolutely pointless getting upset or fixated on a decision that ultimately was the correct one, regardless of technicalities. It hit his leg... it's quite clear from all angles. Everyone other than Alan Shearer can see it. It's literally a waste of time fixating on it.

 

Ironically, the players and fans anger at that decision is probably the main reason Arsenal were able to get a foothold in the game. We stopped playing our game and it became about injustice.

[Kanj]

1 minute ago, Disco said:

They still have to play City (h) and Arsenal, us and Villa (a) too. All in their hands but you’d make a quick buck if you backed them to win all those games. 
 

We need to just bounce back against Leeds which I think we’ll do. Early goal and we’re all laughing.

I was just saying more about the general comments on our opponents coming up, but do agree with you. 
 

at this point, our form all season has shown we bounce back from defeats in a meaningful way. 

[Froggy]

38 minutes ago, gdm said:

man Utd look shot to bits regardless of who their fixture are against. Wolves are in good form

 

We're about to have our first full week of rest since September, so I hope that makes a bit of difference. We've been fading badly in the second half of all our games lately.

[The Prophet]

All that bothers me about the decision is that you know fine well if it's given it for the home team at Anfield it isn't getting overturned.

[Cf]

6 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

All that bothers me about the decision is that you know fine well if it's given it for the home team at Anfield it isn't getting overturned.

 

It would be though. They basically check all penalty decisions. 

 

Even for LiVARpool they overturn that one. 

[madras]

1 hour ago, Cf said:

 

It would be though. They basically check all penalty decisions. 

 

Even for LiVARpool they overturn that one. 

No, they'd say it wasn't a clear mistake so wouldn't be overturned.

 

 

Edited May 8, 2023 by madras

[The Prophet]

8 minutes ago, Cf said:

 

It would be though. They basically check all penalty decisions. 

 

Even for LiVARpool they overturn that one. 

 

This is a team who blatantly handled in the build up to a goal and were given a penalty from a "foul" where there was no contact.