The Europeometer™ (2024/25)

[Abacus]

12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Palace are not ambitious.

No, but they finished 10th, and might think they could sneak 8th one year. It's the only reason I can think a few mid table clubs might like the idea or vote for it.

[Fezzle]

16 hours ago, Abacus said:

I'm not fussed either way, since as has been pointed out, it just means them and Chelsea swap competitions.
 

Then Chelsea get kicked out for financial doping

[Paully]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5526000/2024/05/31/newcastle-failure-to-reach-europe-consequences/

[Scoreboard82]

The Magpies will play in Europe after all. Think this article is from last year but they're in once again. 3rd season running i think.

 

https://true-faith.co.uk/brunos-magpies/

 

 

Edited June 4 by Scoreboard82

[The College Dropout]

On 29/05/2024 at 18:12, Abacus said:

No, but they finished 10th, and might think they could sneak 8th one year. It's the only reason I can think a few mid table clubs might like the idea or vote for it.

maybe close to a sale to an oligarch 

[Coffee_Johnny]

 

Converting all seasons to have the same number of games per month (based on 2024-25: Aug 

2, S 4, O 3, N 4, Dec 6, J 4, F 4, M 2, A 5, M 4). The blue line is a prediction (based on difficulty of opposition) where we will pick up the 69 or so points likely to be required for a fourth place finish.

The columns show where we have picked up points in previously three seasons. Note fantastic second half of seasons in 2020-21 and 2021-22, and poor second half last year. 

[Kanji]

On 27/07/2024 at 08:16, Coffee_Johnny said:

 

Converting all seasons to have the same number of games per month (based on 2024-25: Aug 

2, S 4, O 3, N 4, Dec 6, J 4, F 4, M 2, A 5, M 4). The blue line is a prediction (based on difficulty of opposition) where we will pick up the 69 or so points likely to be required for a fourth place finish.

The columns show where we have picked up points in previously three seasons. Note fantastic second half of seasons in 2020-21 and 2021-22, and poor second half last year. 

Love this update each week mate 

[Guest]

I reckon top 5 (which should get CL this year you'd think) so we'll need around 70 points again.

 

I also want us to beat Man City or Liverpool at least once out of the 4 head-to-heads.

[54]

Already 3 points up on our points haul from last season against the same opposition. 

[54]

Lovely to see Chelsea drop point at home today.

[Erikse]

2 minutes ago, 54 said:

Lovely to see Chelsea drop point at home today.

 

They allways get hyped up like crazy after 1 good game, and then fall back down again next weekend.

[Coffee_Johnny]

Here's this season's chart predicting when we would be expected to pick up the average 69 points required for a 4th place finish. It takes into account quality of the opposition and whether we play them home or away. According to the formula used we should have had 4 points by end of August (we did) and 10 by end of September (only there points away with three games to play). It'll look better when we've played more but I've added a half season version so current trajectory is more visible. 

 

 

[Kaizero]

38 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Here's this season's chart predicting when we would be expected to pick up the average 69 points required for a 4th place finish. It takes into account quality of the opposition and whether we play them home or away. According to the formula used we should have had 4 points by end of August (we did) and 10 by end of September (only there points away with three games to play). It'll look better when we've played more but I've added a half season version so current trajectory is more visible. 

 

 

 

Love these, thanks for keeping up with making (and posting) them!  

[Matt1892]

On 25/08/2024 at 16:23, 54 said:

Already 3 points up on our points haul from last season against the same opposition. 

Southampton would replace Sheffield United wouldn’t they? Meaning we are up one point and - 4 on goal difference against those opponents.

 

Championship winners replace 18th

Runners up replace 19th

Play off winners replace 20th

[RodneyCisse]

Reckon we can hit around 63, running along a similar path to the opening 3 games. Beat wolves we’ll be well on for 60+ points.

[timeEd32]

A few random things I noticed now that the European fixtures are set:

• City's fixtures before / after we play them over a 13 day span are Inter (h), Arsenal (h), Watford (h), Newcastle (a), Slovan Bratislava (a). The Arsenal game is 24h after our match that weekend, plus the midweek game, and Bratislava is just three days after we play them.
• Chelsea's fixtures over a 13 day span are Liverpool (a), Panathinaikos (a), Newcastle (h), and Man United (a). R4 of the League Cup would be after the Chelsea game, so we definitely will not be playing midweek while they are in Greece.
• We play Arsenal immediately following Chelsea. Arsenal's fixtures in a 13 day span include Liverpool (h), Newcastle (a), Inter (a), Chelsea (a). Both of us could have League Cup games mid-week before we play.
• Liverpool's fixtures following the October international break are: Chelsea (h), Leipzig (a), Arsenal (a), Brighton (h), Leverkusen (h), Villa (h), {international break}, Southampton (a), Real Madrid (h), Man City (h), Newcastle (a), Everton (a).

Unfortunately we play all of Villa, Man United, and Spurs during the Christmas period, but these four have all lined up quite nicely and three of the four are home games for us.

[80]

51 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

A few random things I noticed now that the European fixtures are set:

• City's fixtures before / after we play them over a 13 day span are Inter (h), Arsenal (h), Watford (h), Newcastle (a), Slovan Bratislava (a). The Arsenal game is 24h after our match that weekend, plus the midweek game, and Bratislava is just three days after we play them.
• Chelsea's fixtures over a 13 day span are Liverpool (a), Panathinaikos (a), Newcastle (h), and Man United (a). R4 of the League Cup would be after the Chelsea game, so we definitely will not be playing midweek while they are in Greece.
• We play Arsenal immediately following Chelsea. Arsenal's fixtures in a 13 day span include Liverpool (h), Newcastle (a), Inter (a), Chelsea (a). Both of us could have League Cup games mid-week before we play.
• Liverpool's fixtures following the October international break are: Chelsea (h), Leipzig (a), Arsenal (a), Brighton (h), Leverkusen (h), Villa (h), {international break}, Southampton (a), Real Madrid (h), Man City (h), Newcastle (a), Everton (a).

Unfortunately we play all of Villa, Man United, and Spurs during the Christmas period, but these four have all lined up quite nicely and three of the four are home games for us.

So you're saying 12 points clear by Christmas?

[BoSelecta]

1 hour ago, timeEd32 said:

A few random things I noticed now that the European fixtures are set:

• City's fixtures before / after we play them over a 13 day span are Inter (h), Arsenal (h), Watford (h), Newcastle (a), Slovan Bratislava (a). The Arsenal game is 24h after our match that weekend, plus the midweek game, and Bratislava is just three days after we play them.
• Chelsea's fixtures over a 13 day span are Liverpool (a), Panathinaikos (a), Newcastle (h), and Man United (a). R4 of the League Cup would be after the Chelsea game, so we definitely will not be playing midweek while they are in Greece.
• We play Arsenal immediately following Chelsea. Arsenal's fixtures in a 13 day span include Liverpool (h), Newcastle (a), Inter (a), Chelsea (a). Both of us could have League Cup games mid-week before we play.
• Liverpool's fixtures following the October international break are: Chelsea (h), Leipzig (a), Arsenal (a), Brighton (h), Leverkusen (h), Villa (h), {international break}, Southampton (a), Real Madrid (h), Man City (h), Newcastle (a), Everton (a).

Unfortunately we play all of Villa, Man United, and Spurs during the Christmas period, but these four have all lined up quite nicely and three of the four are home games for us.

Thanks for this, I’d been wondering how the fixtures fell but couldn’t be arsed to look into 

 

FWIW Christmas is prime time for the fixture fatigue, particularly those who’ve just been playing twice a week in Europe - we’re gonna need to leverage that advantage. 

[54]

Its only 4 games, and performances need to improve, but so far:

• 3 points ahead of Chelsea
• 4 points ahead of Man United
• 6 points ahead of Tottenham

And we're 3 points better off than the same fixtures last season. Not too bad, despite the performances being not so great.

[janpawel]

1 hour ago, 54 said:

Its only 4 games, and performances need to improve, but so far:

• 3 points ahead of Chelsea
• 4 points ahead of Man United
• 6 points ahead of Tottenham

And we're 3 points better off than the same fixtures last season. Not too bad, despite the performances being not so great.

Unreal seeing that, especially after having 2 away games 

 

 

 

 

[TRon]

Feels almost wrong to post in this thread with our patchy football so far, but when we are 3rd in the table in a CL spot, grab it with both hands has to be the message.

[Solitude20]

Today’s match was a reminder of how a good keeper can make a huge difference. Had Pope been available last season, we would be in Europa League this season for sure. 

 

 

Edited September 15 by Solitude20

[Menace]

Aye definitely. Dubravka starts and that match is dropped points.

[80]

3 hours ago, 54 said:

Its only 4 games, and performances need to improve, but so far:

• 3 points ahead of Chelsea
• 4 points ahead of Man United
• 6 points ahead of Tottenham

And we're 3 points better off than the same fixtures last season. Not too bad, despite the performances being not so great.

That's exactly the way to look at it. This was a difference-maker of a result.

[Kid Icarus]

I have no idea if this start is a good or a bad sign at the moment like.