Karjala Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Is there still an advantage to finishing 3rd rather than 4th concerning the Champions League? Does 3rd guarantee it, and 4th require a qualification play off first? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Karjala said: Is there still an advantage to finishing 3rd rather than 4th concerning the Champions League? Does 3rd guarantee it, and 4th require a qualification play off first? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Karjala said: Is there still an advantage to finishing 3rd rather than 4th concerning the Champions League? Does 3rd guarantee it, and 4th require a qualification play off first? £2m in prize money to throw on the FFP pile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I think the thing that is making me a little nervous is Liverpool have two very winnable home games before we next play. If it’s down to 3 points before we play Arsenal, then pressure is a funny thing. Hopefully it’s just a case of us all being a massive bunch of fannies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, bowlingcrofty said: I think the thing that is making me a little nervous is Liverpool have two very winnable home games before we next play. If it’s down to 3 points before we play Arsenal, then pressure is a funny thing. Hopefully it’s just a case of us all being a massive bunch of fannies. It's just human nature. I said midweek that if we beat Villa it's over. We've beaten Villa, and I don't think it's over. That's with us regularly being in the Champions League since I've supported the club. I can't imagine the pessimism I'd have after suffering through Pardew, Bruce and Ashley. Edited May 1, 2023 by Froggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, astraguy said: Eugh wish Liverpool would go away with Arsenal (h) Leeds (a) Brighton (h) Leicester (h) up coming. I know I'm being a fanny because i haven't done the maths but i want it deeply now 2 wins nails it Leeds is a must In all fairness they should have - with out var they were dropping points in West Ham and spurs game - should have been 4 points lighter. I’m not one for conspiracy but it’s crazy how var decisions in Liverpool games are every game and only ever go one way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 We are Newcastle. We are United. We are the mags. We are champions league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Liverpool have got away with it re decisions against West Ham and Spurs, that usually catches up with you. Their defence is hardly water tight either. I think they’ll beat Fulham but Brentford isn’t straightforward and they’ve been poor away from home at times and have Leicester and Villa away still. I think we’ll be fine but the longer Liverpool hang around it’s natural for people to get nervous. Beat Arsenal and it’s almost done and dusted to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, ExiledGeordie said: Liverpool have got away with it re decisions against West Ham and Spurs, that usually catches up with you. Their defence is hardly water tight either. I think they’ll beat Fulham but Brentford isn’t straightforward and they’ve been poor away from home at times and have Leicester and Villa away still. I think we’ll be fine but the longer Liverpool hang around it’s natural for people to get nervous. Beat Arsenal and it’s almost done and dusted to be fair. They play Villa at Anfield. Their two away games are Leicester and Southampton. I mean, I’m 100% sure they’re going to win every game. The question is simply can we pick up 7 points (ideally in the next 4 games so it doesn’t go to the last day). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Am I right in thinking a win at home to Leicester and away to Leeds, plus a draw anywhere else and its ours? I do think Liverpool will win every game till the end of the season, so we need to do our bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, Dokko said: Am I right in thinking a win at home to Leicester and away to Leeds, plus a draw anywhere else and its ours? I do think Liverpool will win every game till the end of the season, so we need to do our bit. Yes, 7 points would do it, providing Brighton don’t win every single game (which they 100% won’t - they play City, us and Man Utd). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Longstaff being available for the run in is big for me too as he makes a huge difference in that midfield and gives the option of Joelinton in other positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Arse (H) - Draw Leeds (W) - Win Brighton (H) - Draw Leicester (H) - Win Chelsea (A) - Loss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, Shadow Puppets said: Yes, 7 points would do it, providing Brighton don’t win every single game (which they 100% won’t - they play City, us and Man Utd). Brighton's fixtures: Man United (h) Everton (h) Arsenal (a) Newcastle (a) Southampton (h) Man City (h) Villa (a) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: Yes, 7 points would do it, providing Brighton don’t win every single game (which they 100% won’t - they play City, us and Man Utd). So basically beat Arsenal & Leeds and we just need a point from the final 3. Would be an amazing position to be in. I can see Liverpool winning all their games, but not massive wins. 11 less on GD, so 6pts could do it on GD if we don't get humped and Liverpool don't do any humping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 It should be wrapped up by the last day, but we shouldn't be losing to a Frank Lampard managed Chelsea side. They're woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Beth said: 1/20 to finish in the top 4 with the bookies. 1/25 with sky. Anyone that genuinely thinks we’re going to blow it should put their savings on Liverpool at 6/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) I'm still pretty confident Liverpool will drop points. The law of averages says they can't defend that badly for another five games and not drop points. That said they do carry more luck then any other side in the division. Edited May 1, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892er Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 We'd have to capitulate badly in the last games. Something I just don't see these players and EH doing. Our mentality is a different animal nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: I'm still pretty confident Liverpool will drop points. The law of averaged says they can't defend that badly for another five games and not drop points. That said they do carry more luck then any other side in the division. They’re going to have to be perfect from now until the end of the season and there’s too many issues in that side not to slip up somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'm still pretty confident Liverpool will drop points. The law of averaged says they can't defend that badly for another five games and not drop points. That said they do carry more luck then any other side in the division. If by luck you mean VAR, then yes, yes they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Some of my best experiences were following Toon in Europe. Zulte Waregem in Gent in 2007 was fantastic. What a day that was. Bruges in 2012 was incredible. We took over the whole square. Local police said there were 12,000 Toon over. Absolutely hyped for more European football next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'm still pretty confident Liverpool will drop points. The law of averages says they can't defend that badly for another five games and not drop points. That said they do carry more luck then any other side in the division. And bias from officials. It’s been fairly shocking this season to see when you’re actually looking more keenly at their games rather than just focusing on the shit show at the bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 On 26/04/2023 at 07:17, Heron said: Nottingham Forest (a) ✅️ --------------- ManUre ✅️ --------------- West Ham (a) ✅️ Brentford (a) ✅️ Aston Villa (a) ❌️ --------------- Spuds ✅️ --------------- Everton (a) Southampton (h) Leeds United(a) Leicester City (h) Roll on Everton... Nottingham Forest (a) ✅️ --------------- ManUre ✅️ --------------- West Ham (a) ✅️ Brentford (a) ✅️ Aston Villa (a) ❌️ --------------- Spuds ✅️ --------------- Everton (a) ✅️ Southampton (h) ✅️ Leeds United (a) Leicester City (h) When I originally did this with 13 games left I thought we had 8 quite winnable games (the ones above excluding Man United and Spurs). So far we've won 5/6 and lost 1. We have then won 2 games which I hadn't identified as more winnable, (against Man United and Spurs), thus putting us a win ahead of what I'd originally thought. With 2 wins from those identified 2 games we'd be virtually in the champions league with only a single point required. I think Champions League has to be our next target points wise, but after that (if there's time left) I'd love to see us target beating our highest ever point total in the Premier League, which, to my knowledge would require us to win every remaining game. Can see Arsenal being a draw though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, Elliottman said: 1/25 with sky. Anyone that genuinely thinks we’re going to blow it should put their savings on Liverpool at 6/1 Never won a bet in my life - the one time I entered a sweepstake on the grand National years ago and got the favourite is the year there wasn’t any winner so I might just put twenty on Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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