Andy Posted Saturday at 06:52 Share Posted Saturday at 06:52 11 minutes ago, 1964 said: I'm indifferent about the whole transfer, I dont think we have a bad deal and at least its done early. What is pissing me of is the congratulations to the transfer team, I'll save that till we have someone in worthy of a shirt While it's not pissing me off, I agree with your general point. I'd imagine it's extremely easy to sell a player to Barcelona quickly when they've made an offer that is right for all parties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted Saturday at 06:58 Share Posted Saturday at 06:58 5 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Gordon sacked in the last month, was indifferent for most of the season and got his move in May. Isak did better to this point than Gordon. Howe didn't play him as he knew he was off in summer, he certainly didn't sack it out. In fairness we should of played him as we'd of had better chance of European football looking at games like Forest and Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Saturday at 07:03 Share Posted Saturday at 07:03 42 minutes ago, St1pe said: The revisionism here man Isak was awful during the run in and it nearly cost us Champions League football. Everyone at the time thought he was carrying an injury he was that bad until we found out he was being a fanny behind the scenes telling people he wanted to leave. Callum Wilson was kicking off about it and alluded to this going on behind the scenes and Isak still getting picked over him. A lot of the people “not comfortable” with Gordon’s send off are the people that seemed have attached to the made up narratives about him. He was undeniably poor in phases during this season but you could label that on every single player in our team. Cracking send off from the club and a genuinely lovely leaving video from Gordon. It’s exactly how it should be when all parties have benefited. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted Saturday at 07:08 Share Posted Saturday at 07:08 (edited) Nah I think there must be some issues behind. I ain’t bashing Gordon btw. I just think it’s so odd that 1. Howe publicly criticised a certain player for lack of commitments; 2. Afterwards Gordon was basically out of the team till the end of the season; and 3. The statement from Wilson, stating that it’s him and Hopkinson totally managing the issue in behind and all parties involved have been handling the process with “a great deal of professionalism” They are kinda contradictory. You wouldn’t publicly state that Gordon had been acting very professionally unless he is told by the club to sit out till now. If that’s the case Howe wouldn’t criticise Gordon right? Or it could be Gordon had been communicating with Wilson directly for a few months already re a transfer and Howe wasn’t involved in the process? Edited Saturday at 07:13 by Zero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted Saturday at 07:09 Share Posted Saturday at 07:09 5 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Semenyo played well right up until the day he signed for city. As did Guehi. Isak was our best played and was available to the end of the season despite telling the club he intended to leave. I haven’t read the athletic article. Keen to learn. Did you watch Isak for the last couple of months of his time here? He was absolutely shocking. There was a highlight reel going round of him showing how bad he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Charlton Posted Saturday at 07:12 Share Posted Saturday at 07:12 I take it the Spanish transfer window is officially open? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted Saturday at 07:15 Share Posted Saturday at 07:15 55 minutes ago, St1pe said: The revisionism here man Isak was awful during the run in and it nearly cost us Champions League football. Everyone at the time thought he was carrying an injury he was that bad until we found out he was being a fanny behind the scenes telling people he wanted to leave. Callum Wilson was kicking off about it and alluded to this going on behind the scenes and Isak still getting picked over him. A lot of the people “not comfortable” with Gordon’s send off are the people that seemed have attached to the made up narratives about him. He was undeniably poor in phases during this season but you could label that on every single player in our team. Cracking send off from the club and a genuinely lovely leaving video from Gordon. It’s exactly how it should be when all parties have benefited. It's different to the Isak situation for sure, but I'm still not convinced it's been handled brilliantly. Ignoring the accusations from Shearer about feigning injury and the on-field bust-up with Trippier, Gordon still went through the motions for large parts of the last two seasons IMO, and putting out a soppy PR YouTube video won't change that for me. It's absolutely miles from ideal that he vanished for the last six games of the season when we still had a good chance of qualifying for Europe - that either doesn't reflect well on Gordon, or it doesn't reflect well on the club, depending on whose decision it was. He was supposedly one of our key players and he should have been on the pitch giving it 100% until the end of the season to put an extremely poor league campaign right. That would have had far more value for me than "protecting" him and ensuring we got him sold. Just because it was better than Isak, doesn't mean people have to wax lyrical about the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Saturday at 07:17 Share Posted Saturday at 07:17 Well said Wilson, what a very professional way to let a player leave. Beats my "good riddance you little fuckin mop haired scroat" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted Saturday at 07:21 Share Posted Saturday at 07:21 We might have 3-6 more points if we have Gordon available for the last few games. I think that’s Howe’s decision to simply put him away from the team once he knew he’s off in the summer. Gordon knew the transfer to Barca was on a lot earlier than everyone. I don’t think he needs to request to sit out himself. Simply unnecessary. His wish was already granted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted Saturday at 07:22 Share Posted Saturday at 07:22 1 minute ago, Andy said: It's different to the Isak situation for sure, but I'm still not convinced it's been handled brilliantly. Ignoring the accusations from Shearer about feigning injury and the on-field bust-up with Trippier, Gordon still went through the motions for large parts of the last two seasons IMO, and putting out a soppy PR YouTube video won't change that for me. It's absolutely miles from ideal that he vanished for the last six games of the season when we still had a good chance of qualifying for Europe - that either doesn't reflect well on Gordon, or it doesn't reflect well on the club, depending on whose decision it was. He was supposedly one of our key players and he should have been on the pitch giving it 100% until the end of the season to put an extremely poor league campaign right. That would have had for more value for me than "protecting" him and ensuring we got him sold. Just because it was better than Isak, doesn't mean people have to wax lyrical about the situation. I think when a key player is departing, you're making concessions one way or another; it's never going to be perfect. In the Isak case we got an absolutely astronomical fee but at the cost of a damaging summer and everything associated with that. In the Gordon case we've got a nice early sale and an amicable departure, but at the cost of him being stood down for the last games (and maybe a bit of a lower fee than we could otherwise have achieved if he'd had an amazing WC). It's just a relief that we appear to have retained some genuine agency in the situation. That's where it's chalk and cheese with Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Saturday at 07:25 Share Posted Saturday at 07:25 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zero said: We might have 3-6 more points if we have Gordon available for the last few games. I think that’s Howe’s decision to simply put him away from the team once he knew he’s off in the summer. Gordon knew the transfer to Barca was on a lot earlier than everyone. I don’t think he needs to request to sit out himself. Simply unnecessary. His wish was already granted We might not as well. He might have got injured which might have killed this deal and meaning we might have to sell someone else. Awful lot of ‘mights’ really. We’d be here all day. He got a good move, we got a good fee and we all crack on. Edited Saturday at 07:26 by lovejoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted Saturday at 07:26 Share Posted Saturday at 07:26 5 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Semenyo played well right up until the day he signed for city. As did Guehi. Isak was our best played and was available to the end of the season despite telling the club he intended to leave. I haven’t read the athletic article. Keen to learn. still not buying his 'injury' that kept him out of the Arsenal game and he may as well have sat out the Everton game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Saturday at 07:26 Share Posted Saturday at 07:26 The great contradictions of Anthony Gordon: Only bothers against the big teams, whilst simultaneously stating-padding against the weaker teams. Sacked off the end of the season but if he’d played we’d have got another 6 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted Saturday at 07:32 Share Posted Saturday at 07:32 Even in his goodbye message, he was still phoning it in! (It’s written by ChatGPT) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted Saturday at 07:35 Share Posted Saturday at 07:35 16 minutes ago, Andy said: It's different to the Isak situation for sure, but I'm still not convinced it's been handled brilliantly. Ignoring the accusations from Shearer about feigning injury and the on-field bust-up with Trippier, Gordon still went through the motions for large parts of the last two seasons IMO, and putting out a soppy PR YouTube video won't change that for me. It's absolutely miles from ideal that he vanished for the last six games of the season when we still had a good chance of qualifying for Europe - that either doesn't reflect well on Gordon, or it doesn't reflect well on the club, depending on whose decision it was. He was supposedly one of our key players and he should have been on the pitch giving it 100% until the end of the season to put an extremely poor league campaign right. That would have had far more value for me than "protecting" him and ensuring we got him sold. Just because it was better than Isak, doesn't mean people have to wax lyrical about the situation. Herein lies the point, plenty will fall for the docusoap shite these lads pump out, only thing missing was the "Newcastle will be the 1st result I look for" The only thing Gordon & his ilk look out for are themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted Saturday at 07:36 Share Posted Saturday at 07:36 7 minutes ago, SteV said: The great contradictions of Anthony Gordon: Only bothers against the big teams, whilst simultaneously stating-padding against the weaker teams. He forgot to do both of those in the last two premier league campaigns Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted Saturday at 07:47 Share Posted Saturday at 07:47 36 minutes ago, Elliottman said: Did you watch Isak for the last couple of months of his time here? He was absolutely shocking. There was a highlight reel going round of him showing how bad he was. Same as the highlight reel of his first season at Liverpool, amirite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted Saturday at 07:54 Share Posted Saturday at 07:54 (edited) All the shoulda, woulda, coulda is so fucking tedious and pointless. - We were happy to sell. - Barca were happy to buy. - He was happy to leave. - He shares a nice leaving message. - It’s obvious he was leaving so hasn’t played recently. - Most fans are happy to see him go but don’t dislike him. - Isak’s behaviour was reprehensible. Why are you lot still twisting your knickers about what you think should have been done differently. Proper weirdos. Edited Saturday at 07:55 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted Saturday at 08:03 Share Posted Saturday at 08:03 🎵 Anthony, Gordon! Running down the wing, Gordon! Hear the Geordies sing, Gordon! Now we’re supporting Real Madrid 🎵 Not really. Gan canny young Ant. Thanks for destroying Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted Saturday at 08:07 Share Posted Saturday at 08:07 12 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: All the shoulda, woulda, coulda is so fucking tedious and pointless. - We were happy to sell. - Barca were happy to buy. - He was happy to leave. - He shares a nice leaving message. - It’s obvious he was leaving so hasn’t played recently. - Most fans are happy to see him go but don’t dislike him. - Isak’s behaviour was reprehensible. Why are you lot still twisting your knickers about what you think should have been done differently. Proper weirdos. Because the club has to be at fault for everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Saturday at 08:11 Share Posted Saturday at 08:11 Think there are just a lot of unhappy people supporting us, with a negative outlook generally. That then gets projected onto NUFC. There’s been a fair amount to criticise in the last year but the scale of nitpicking criticism about every last little thing is completely out of proportion. Genuinely hope that’s not how a lot of these fans view their own lives as it’s a sad thought but it’s hard to look past that being a significant contributing reason for why they view things through such a myopic, shit-stained lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted Saturday at 08:12 Share Posted Saturday at 08:12 It's all very false. He talks as if we meant a huge amount to him and he "loved every minute" etc etc. The reality is he half-arsed it for nearly 2 seasons, refused to play in certain positions, faked injuries, cost us games by being a fanny and getting sent off, and contributed very little other than pens. Then he down tools for the end of the season as we were chasing Europe and went off to learn Spanish. All while we shove £150,000/week up his arse like mugs. If he really cared about us he'd have insisted in helping us turn our form around and get higher in the table. The media circus is all designed to gloss over that and retrain our memory, and it's fine, but it's not the reality is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Larch Posted Saturday at 08:16 Share Posted Saturday at 08:16 58 minutes ago, Andy said: It's different to the Isak situation for sure, but I'm still not convinced it's been handled brilliantly. Ignoring the accusations from Shearer about feigning injury and the on-field bust-up with Trippier, Gordon still went through the motions for large parts of the last two seasons IMO, and putting out a soppy PR YouTube video won't change that for me. It's absolutely miles from ideal that he vanished for the last six games of the season when we still had a good chance of qualifying for Europe - that either doesn't reflect well on Gordon, or it doesn't reflect well on the club, depending on whose decision it was. He was supposedly one of our key players and he should have been on the pitch giving it 100% until the end of the season to put an extremely poor league campaign right. That would have had far more value for me than "protecting" him and ensuring we got him sold. Just because it was better than Isak, doesn't mean people have to wax lyrical about the situation. Totally agree. It reminds me of the saying from the outlaw josey wales "dont piss down my back and tell me its raining". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted Saturday at 08:17 Share Posted Saturday at 08:17 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TaylorJ_01 said: It's all very false. He talks as if we meant a huge amount to him and he "loved every minute" etc etc. The reality is he half-arsed it for nearly 2 seasons, refused to play in certain positions, faked injuries, cost us games by being a fanny and getting sent off, and contributed very little other than pens. Then he down tools for the end of the season as we were chasing Europe and went off to learn Spanish. All while we shove £150,000/week up his arse like mugs. If he really cared about us he'd have insisted in helping us turn our form around and get higher in the table. The media circus is all designed to gloss over that and retrain our memory, and it's fine, but it's not the reality is it. Your post is designed to gloss over anything good he achieved and retrain our memory to only focus on the negatives, and it’s fine, but it’s not the reality is it. Edited Saturday at 08:21 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enthusiast Posted Saturday at 08:19 Share Posted Saturday at 08:19 Aye, but the timing if it coming hot on the heels of gbandit's is delightful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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