andycap Posted Sunday at 00:02 Share Posted Sunday at 00:02 Should of scored a hat trick today his finishing can be quite poor at times aswell, But he works his arse off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Sunday at 01:22 Share Posted Sunday at 01:22 Needs a goal for confidence it feels. His all round play is still good and off the ball he works really hard, which is what keeps Barnes out the team. But his finishing this season has been so wasteful. Looked alot more composed and clinical last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted Sunday at 01:35 Share Posted Sunday at 01:35 He was ruthless last season. Played with a fuck off load of confidence too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted Sunday at 01:48 Share Posted Sunday at 01:48 He will be a 15 goal pr season player if he ever learns how to head a ball. He's had so many good chances on the head since he came here, yet not one single headed goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted Sunday at 05:24 Share Posted Sunday at 05:24 3 hours ago, Conjo said: He will be a 15 goal pr season player if he ever learns how to head a ball. He's had so many good chances on the head since he came here, yet not one single headed goal. agree, but that header yesterday should be a foul. Gordon was pushed from behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Sunday at 07:51 Share Posted Sunday at 07:51 I don’t think much has changed with his finishing since last season. He isn’t composed at all and doesn’t strike a ball particularly well. Maybe he just got the rub of the green a bit more and was kind of similar to Almiron during his purple patch. I know he’s young and he was playing for a crap Everton side. But he’s never seemed to score many other than last season I don’t think? Makes up for it in other ways, of course. His pace kills teams, his workrate is off the charts and infectious. He has also got a lot better at varying his game. He’s much better back to goal than he was and throws the odd trick in or drop of a shoulder to creat space for himself. He looks really dangerous when he drifts, as well. When he pops up with a bit of space in central areas you can see the defenders he’s up against visibly shit themselves (not literally). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted Sunday at 07:53 Share Posted Sunday at 07:53 If you could merge his all round play with Barnes’ finishing you’d genuinely have one of the best wingers in world football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted Sunday at 09:09 Share Posted Sunday at 09:09 he should be scoring a lot more goals at the back post, especially when Murphy’s in the team. It’s about timing of runs more than finishing half the time. Been really disappointed by his output this season tbh, but thought he played well overall yesterday at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Sunday at 09:15 Share Posted Sunday at 09:15 7 hours ago, alexf said: Needs a goal for confidence it feels. His all round play is still good and off the ball he works really hard, which is what keeps Barnes out the team. But his finishing this season has been so wasteful. Looked alot more composed and clinical last season. could see why Howe put him upfront when Isak went off, a couple of scrappy goals will do him the world of good. Would still rather see Barnes one on for him and not Murphy though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondedcrown Posted Sunday at 09:17 Share Posted Sunday at 09:17 7 hours ago, Conjo said: He will be a 15 goal pr season player if he ever learns how to head a ball. He's had so many good chances on the head since he came here, yet not one single headed goal. He was pushed as he went for the header he had? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted Sunday at 09:56 Share Posted Sunday at 09:56 37 minutes ago, Bondedcrown said: He was pushed as he went for the header he had? bit of a nudge, no foul imo. Should have buried the header, he had loads to aim at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondedcrown Posted Sunday at 10:14 Share Posted Sunday at 10:14 16 minutes ago, Holloway said: bit of a nudge, no foul imo. Should have buried the header, he had loads to aim at Never mentioned a foul? But it was enought to change his position slightly! Doesn't take much when you are in ther air! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted Sunday at 10:15 Share Posted Sunday at 10:15 (edited) 1 minute ago, Bondedcrown said: Never mentioned a foul? But it was enought to change his position slightly! Doesn't take much when you are in ther air! Felt if he milked it a bit like Liverpool players normally do, he would have won a penalty. Edited Sunday at 10:16 by CPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted Sunday at 10:27 Share Posted Sunday at 10:27 Since the 21/22 season he's scored roughly what you'd expect from his xG every year, his finishing's fine. He's a bit below this year but that's just natural variance. At some point he'll grab a few and all will be well. With the header, yeah probably should have scored, but really the issue there was that because Murphy had lobbed it up to keep it in play it was dropping fast. Combined that with running onto it at high speed with a defender by him & you only need to be the slightest fraction out. It just dropped a tiny bit too much and he got over the top of it. Think Isak's one on one chip straight to the keeper was worse tbh. Also, watching the highlights, his pass to put Barnes through at the end was class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted Sunday at 10:30 Share Posted Sunday at 10:30 2 minutes ago, Checko said: Since the 21/22 season he's scored roughly what you'd expect from his xG every year, his finishing's fine. He's a bit below this year but that's just natural variance. At some point he'll grab a few and all will be well. With the header, yeah probably should have scored, but really the issue there was that because Murphy had lobbed it up to keep it in play it was dropping fast. Combined that with running onto it at high speed with a defender by him & you only need to be the slightest fraction out. It just dropped a tiny bit too much and he got over the top of it. Think Isak's one on one chip straight to the keeper was worse tbh. Also, watching the highlights, his pass to put Barnes through at the end was class. His finishing is definitely not fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted Sunday at 10:40 Share Posted Sunday at 10:40 22 minutes ago, Bondedcrown said: Never mentioned a foul? But it was enought to change his position slightly! Doesn't take much when you are in ther air! It could be argued the defender did just enough to put him off but he has to score, his heading is weak in general Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflap Posted Sunday at 11:06 Share Posted Sunday at 11:06 With the exception of Barnes the entire teams finishing has been rubbish this season and even Barnes has fluffed a fair few 1v1s, it's been more the instinctive finishes he's been getting. Maybe there's something more going on. Gordons work rate is off the charts though, he has at least one press every game that you'd never see another player make. You notice him adding little tricks to his game as well. He developed a stepover at some point last season to good effect and now when he receives the ball deep with his back to goal he's throwing in a little feint to help him get away from defenders. I don't think he reads the field that well though, particularly on a counter attack. Feels like he makes up his mind early and doesn't let things develop. When Bruno fired the volleyed wonder pass to him yesterday was a case in point. Think he'd Willock flying past him on the outside and it should've resulted in a tap in if he gave it but it was like he'd already decided he was going to cut in and shoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Sunday at 12:37 Share Posted Sunday at 12:37 with his headers, like a lot of players, he seems to close his eyes and dip his head at the last second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted Sunday at 12:49 Share Posted Sunday at 12:49 2 hours ago, Checko said: He's a bit below this year but that's just natural variance. think this is understating it pretty heavily to be honest. In the league this season he has 0.21 goals per 90 played from an xG of 0.37 per 90 (or 3 goals from 5.3xG) which is really quite bad. I'm sure he'll be working on it but obviously need to improve massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Sunday at 13:03 Share Posted Sunday at 13:03 24 minutes ago, alexf said: with his headers, like a lot of players, he seems to close his eyes and dip his head at the last second. On the replay I noticed this too, took his eye off it at the last moment Overall he's class for us and causes so much problems to the opposition, do hope he can improve his finishing, it's never going to be at an elite level but he should be able to improve it with regular practice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted Sunday at 16:05 Share Posted Sunday at 16:05 3 hours ago, Smal said: think this is understating it pretty heavily to be honest. In the league this season he has 0.21 goals per 90 played from an xG of 0.37 per 90 (or 3 goals from 5.3xG) which is really quite bad. I'm sure he'll be working on it but obviously need to improve massively. Yeah but over a short period of time. Personally I'm not worried. Take Isak for instance: in 2021/22 he scored 6 goals in the season from 9.8 xG. Should have had an extra 4 goals that year. He'd scored 17 league goals the year before (16.8 xG), 9 from 7.3 xg the year before that and 13 from 11.7xG the year before that. Every other year before and after he's generally scored slightly more then his xg. Sometimes you just have a year, or run of games where things don't go as well as normal. The pattern I see with Gordon over the last few years is that he's scored pretty consistently about much as many goals as expected. Goals often come in clusters, he'll probably score a few in a couple of games at some point and be back to baseline. So yeah, of course he's not been clinical so far this year, but I'm not worried about his finishing over the long-term, I think it's fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted Monday at 10:02 Share Posted Monday at 10:02 AG is a clever and analytical guy. I’m sure he’ll figure out a way to improve his finishing. Maybe he needs to work on a particular move/shot and refine it the way Henry did. Anyway, I’m sure there are enough brains in the building to make him better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted Monday at 10:55 Share Posted Monday at 10:55 52 minutes ago, Lotus said: AG is a clever and analytical guy. I’m sure he’ll figure out a way to improve his finishing. Maybe he needs to work on a particular move/shot and refine it the way Henry did. Anyway, I’m sure there are enough brains in the building to make him better. This has always been my view. I was surprised at how well he did last season, but I think it's in his nature that he will practice and practice and eventually become a very respected finisher in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted yesterday at 19:01 Share Posted yesterday at 19:01 Thought he was excellent today, even without the goal: good defensive work, looked like he was causing a threat all game. Feel his understanding with Hall is coming along nicely as well. Man, if those two can build a really good understanding... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted yesterday at 19:35 Share Posted yesterday at 19:35 Great goal to get us going and looked full of energy, his end product still needs to improve. I wanted to mentioned his amazing run across the whole pitch against Brentford last week to recover the ball for us, one thing you can't criticize him for is lack of effort as he really puts it all out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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