SteV Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Erikse said: Well.. he doesn't have a good history with playing against Everton at all.. He’s only played them twice. Both at Goodison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Lots of players transform from one season to another, and then back again the season after. No point in selling really, can't see a big offer coming in from a top club now anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago His defensive work rate has dropped off massively, gives the ball away a lot and looks lacking in confidence. It seems to be a mental thing if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Gordon is a good player. But I don’t think he’s an elite one. Doesn’t have enough technically in his locker. His best games require a level of mental focus he doesn’t seem capable of sustaining Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Playing shite and being shite are two different things. He does look like he's half arsing it at the moment, hoping it's just a fitness thing. Exactly. Gordon has demonstrated that when he is at his best he is tenacious and full of running both forward and back and he himself even said his attitude was that if he runs more than everyone else and harder than everyone else he will likely outperform them. He's stopped doing that. So by definition (to me) that says his attitude is off (or he's being told to run less - which seems unlikely). Edited 5 hours ago by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Heron said: I don't think it is entirely knee jerk reaction. He was very lucky we won the cup cause his stupid actions could have cost us and all season he has shown petulance (which he has also done previously). I find it bizarre that people talk of Murphy having a 'purple patch' still despite showing exemplary behaviour and consistent performances all season and then we cannot talk about someone showing poor attitude and whom is out of form (despite being considered a more talented player). Agree @Heron. For me he could be a PSR sacrificial lamb if someone is willing to give us a chunky sum for him. I think he’s a good player but that’s really not coming through this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Slim said: No worse than Barnes but seems to be the Scape goat now. Few twitter posts saying he's been shit all season and we should sold him. Njoy His mistake lead to the goal. And his body language often looks frustrated which delays him actually trying to play football. He did really well for like 10 minutes after the goal. He knew it was him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago If we have to shift a “purple” for PSR reasons Gordon has to be the first we sacrifice. Whilst there is a good player in there, I am not sure if he has potential to be an elite player. Barnes already shown he has better ball striking and decision making than Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Ppl here always want to sell players on the low. You sell players when they are performing at a high level so you get the best fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Very surprised he was kept on. Absolutely shocking going forward and even worse at the hard work bit. I suspect his peak value would have been last summer. But he’d still get close to 100m if we sold. Just not sure who’d bite based on this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago If 60m came in would the hierarchy consider it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 30 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said: Do liverpool want him? The problem is don't think we would actually make much profit from selling him with his current form. I just hope he gets better next season. Yeah, I don't see any better team wanting him currently. Certainly not Liverpool. Edited 5 hours ago by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Dr Jinx said: Very surprised he was kept on. Absolutely shocking going forward and even worse at the hard work bit. I suspect his peak value would have been last summer. But he’d still get close to 100m if we sold. Just not sure who’d bite based on this season. If someone's offering close to 100 million we should snatch their hand off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Deserves the benefit of the doubt imo, back to his best next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I echo the statements, I don't think it's any kind of knee jerk, I think it's just the attitude shown today has brought a lot of what has been bubbling under, up to the surface. There's no denying his talent, we've seen it last season, however bar a patch of 9 games mid-season he's not been great at all this season. He looks half-hearted at times, sloppy and off the pace and his diving has become much worse, compounded by his petulant rolling around on the floor when the whistle doesn't go and the ball is still live, get up!! One of our best players by far when in form, he needs to work hard to get back to where he was and he needs to bring the arrogance and petulance down a peg and realise that right now Barnes is the better option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Howe has a huge decision to make this week, don't think Gordon is giving enough to justify an automatic start next week. Certainly should be Barnes starting at LW next Sunday with either Murphy or Gordon on the right. He's looked miles away from his own high standards for a while now and his sloppiness today cost us the winning goal today. If Joelinton is fit then I think I'd go with Murphy on the right and give Gordon 35 mins off the bench to use his pace against a tiring Everton. We've been in the position of not having anything off the bench for a month now and he's the last one you'd want to see if you're Ashley Young or Mykolenko. No one has any idea what's going on in his head but he's playing like he's unhappy with something. He certainly doesn't look like he's enjoying his football atm. Huge week for everyone at the club, need every oar in the water right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago I’m overly harsh on him and far from his biggest fan. But all the talk of selling him seems mental to me. I’d much rather we unlocked whatever it is that gets him back to last season’s form, attitude and work rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago He'll be fine, but he does need a right kick up the arse and telling that the underlying message from all these books he likes reading is that it's all already inside you, you just need to go and fucking do it. Might be a good week for Big Jam to have his seasonal dust up 😅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892er Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Mattoon said: I echo the statements, I don't think it's any kind of knee jerk, I think it's just the attitude shown today has brought a lot of what has been bubbling under, up to the surface. There's no denying his talent, we've seen it last season, however bar a patch of 9 games mid-season he's not been great at all this season. He looks half-hearted at times, sloppy and off the pace and his diving has become much worse, compounded by his petulant rolling around on the floor when the whistle doesn't go and the ball is still live, get up!! One of our best players by far when in form, he needs to work hard to get back to where he was and he needs to bring the arrogance and petulance down a peg and realise that right now Barnes is the better option. The red card before the final was stupid but I understand the red mist coming over him. But today he seems lazy and disinterested for such a high stakes game. He's not putting the graft in, closing down or pressing high. He's hugely talented but he's currently not in the mood to show it for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Very surprised he was kept on. Absolutely shocking going forward and even worse at the hard work bit. I suspect his peak value would have been last summer. But he’d still get close to 100m if we sold. Just not sure who’d bite based on this season. No he wouldn’t. Wasn’t rumoured to be £100m last summer. It was around £70m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I’m overly harsh on him and far from his biggest fan. But all the talk of selling him seems mental to me. I’d much rather we unlocked whatever it is that gets him back to last season’s form, attitude and work rate. Agreed. We wouldn’t get a crazy fee for him anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong989 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, pubteam said: His defensive work rate has dropped off massively, gives the ball away a lot and looks lacking in confidence. It seems to be a mental thing if you ask me. It seems to me like he’s been totally different in body language and impact since whatever happened with the Liverpool transfer proposal. He seemed so happy at the club, he doesn’t seem the same lad at all. His game has become massively inconsistent to the point where how would you even sell him now, knowing how good heis capable of being, but that his value has dropped massively this year. Not that I’d want us to sell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago I think he is burnt out mentally and physically, hopefully a summer of rest and he will be on fire again next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Definetly do not sell, but he should be on the bench next game and whatever is bothering him needs resolved for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Selling him for for north of 70m would be great business in my eyes, it won’t happen so he’s not going anywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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