r0cafella Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Well from that POV I'm not against selling anyone. I know the money would be invested in any event. But I still think we can have a view on which players we would rather keep/use. We only need to be concerned about selling players whom can't be replaced. A healthy Isak, Sandro, Id throw Hall in there too. It's not that I actively want to sell Gordon, I just recognise we aren't owned by Ashley anymore and player trading on our terms is the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 8 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said: I wonder if Pool might come in for him this summer? Isn't Gakpo and Diaz both better in that position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Yeah but I think it does say something when you sell your top young players. Like, I wouldn't want to replace him with 2 Brighton-style spreadsheet players just because of PSR. Unless we have to, obviously. I get the impression we've got no real intention of going for spreadsheet players. And I don't think we have to sell anyone this summer - far from it, but in a weird way I think that makes us a bit more likely to sell. Trading is definitely going to stay a part of our lives for the foreseeable future, and selling from a position of strength means we can extract maximum value rather than going to clubs with our begging bowl out. So we'll see. I'm certainly not expecting any big sales, but I won't be too surprised by some kind of surprise - it feels like we've got some significant moves in mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) I wouldn’t actively try to sell him, absolutely not. However, IF we get an offer that is very very good then I wouldn’t be against it. He’s very good but also a bit limited in some regards. Only makes some kind of sense to sell him if it means we can get a couple of extra quality players to strengthen in our weaker areas. I don’t rate him as highly as I do Botman, Hall, Isak, Bruno and Tonali. Edited 6 hours ago by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago I feel like LW would instantly need reinforcements if the only good option was Barnes. Although I rate Barnes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I feel like LW would instantly need reinforcements if the only good option was Barnes. Although I rate Barnes. Of course it would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: Of course it would. So then we would maybe make a small profit on Gordon but need to spend 20-30m on a replacement. Edited 6 hours ago by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: So then we would maybe make a small profit on Gordon but need to spend 20-30m on a replacement. I wouldn’t sell him if it was for a tiny profit. Also, IF we did sell him then I would go for a very highly rated young winger and use the money for other areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) His attitude has been awful since his dream move fell through last summer - out of our ‘big guns’, he’s easily the most replaceable - we’ve even got someone there now! Edited 5 hours ago by Paully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madrigal Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago The way I judge an attacking player is what skillset do they possess if they lose their pace (possible serious injury)? Our best players across the pitch - Isak (finishing), Tonali (anticipation, set pieces), Bruno (press resistance, through balls), Botman (heading, passing, anticipation). Even Barnes (elite finishing) and Murphy (crossing, shooting),albeit an inferior player, offers more attacking threat if pace is impacted. Gordon is becoming predictable without the likeability factor of our other players. Although I feel he can improve further and we shouldn’t seek to actively sell him, if there is a deal to be done we should take the money - more LW options out there in the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 hours ago, Zero said: This is going over the top FFS. Are LW a cursed position? Gordon is fine. He is just not in exceptional form like last season. You guys need your head checked if you think the starting left winger for England doesn’t worth 60m on the market. In a situation where you want to sell he is worth what other clubs wants to pay. If he is worth 60m+ to us then we probably won't sell, because I'm not seeing what team would pay big money for him right now. There are a lot of wingers out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, JT24 said: Think we’d be stupid to sell. Too many other priorities. I agree, you don't want to make too many changes in one window. It's easier to swap out your players in windows where you don't have to make a bunch of other moves silmutaneously. This is why Chelsea struggled after their first few windows under their new owner, although ofcourse they were quite extreme. Edited 5 hours ago by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago What was special about his game last season was how aggressive he was in every part of his play, he was popping up with key goal contributions in big matches and his self-belief made him often times unplayable. We're not seeing that this season. It's glaring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago We should sell him (and definitely not just because we lost yesterday and need a scapegoat). Can’t imagine how that kind of short-sighted, reactionary thinking could massively backfire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago If Isak is fit, I'd be playing Barnes and Murphy next game. And that's from someone who was a bit wary of Barnes before his latest spell. Off the bench, if we're ahead, Gordon can come on and stretch them on the break. I always thought it would be the other way round with Barnes being the sub, but that's probably the form right now. Gordon didn't play badly in the last game (in fact the whole team played pretty well) other than one mistake, but I think he needs his confidence back. He hasn't really been the same player as last season except in spells. But I still wouldn't like to play against him if we sold him in the summer, not that I think that would be sensible or likely anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago £100m price tag slapped on him. We'd do well getting that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Kanj said: What was special about his game last season was how aggressive he was in every part of his play, he was popping up with key goal contributions in big matches and his self-belief made him often times unplayable. We're not seeing that this season. It's glaring. Still scored some pretty big goals in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago What's the crack with wanting to sell players as soon as they hit a bit of rough form? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What's the crack with wanting to sell players as soon as they hit a bit of rough form? Boring init Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Do we give him the summer break anticipating he will pick up and if form remains as is till January do we move him on , or should a really good offer come during the summer window, do we take it, and not take the opportunity lime we should have in previous windows with players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Think he needs a long, proper break. Has effectively played the 2022/23 season (moved to us Jan 23), U21 Euros that summer, very small break to come to our US Tour, carried us for parts of 23/24 amidst injury mania, went to the real Euros, played nearly all of 24/25 along with a few injuries he’s probably still fighting back from. Throw in the alleged being offered to your boyhood club, having to sell his best mate to Forest and failing to sign his pal Guehi…time for a beach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: What's the crack with wanting to sell players as soon as they hit a bit of rough form? Lad helped us to a cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheicksCalfs Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I blame Southgate for messing him about at the Euros... Playing only 10 mins or so was ridiculous. Plus the Liverpool bs didn't help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Didn't we offer him to Liverpool right before the deadline? Probably not confirmed, but.. if that was the case, it probably wasn't so encouraging knowing that we tried to sell him. My point is, lets not speculate that he was pushing for a move to Liverpool. Even if that ordeal had an impact, it could be the other way around by him not being happy about being the one we felt we could sacrifice. Ofcourse it would still be unfprofessional to have a bad attitude for nearly the whole season as a result. Bottom line is we simply don't know the full story. Edited 2 hours ago by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Not to mention that Eddie has a history of punishing players with apparently shitty attitudes. Daft how quickly some have turned on Gordon. But several on here were horrible when he first came in. Some of the most toxic shit I've seen on this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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