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Anthony Gordon (now playing for FC Barcelona)


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42 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Nobody would think Burn & Murphy could play in a top 5 team or 7 team 3 years in a row.

Every team has players like that though when you don’t have the spending power of the big 6.

 

Semenyo, Cook etc

 

Ismaila Sarr looks incredible now after falling off a cliff.

 

Ryan Yates, Chris Wood.

 

Tonnes of examples of this and all good managers do it. This isn’t a knock on Eddie it’s just part of being a top manager but it’s not unique to him.

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1 minute ago, TRC said:

Every team has players like that though when you don’t have the spending power of the big 6.

 

Semenyo, Cook etc

 

Ismaila Sarr looks incredible now after falling off a cliff.

 

Ryan Yates, Chris Wood.

 

Tonnes of examples of this and all good managers do it. This isn’t a knock on Eddie it’s just part of being a top manager but it’s not unique to him.

 None of these players have finished in the top 7 - three years in a row. 
 

there’s a timeline where Sarr and Semenyo get moves to top 6 clubs. Still time for Semenyo.  

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Howe’s reputation for improving players is justified. 
 

He’s got the best out of big talents.  The best out of misprofiled or overlooked talents. And he’s got the best out of limited talents. I’ve seen Jamaal Lascelles drill passes through the lines repeatedly.  Lascelles, Dan Burn in the CL not looking out of place. 
 

Howe would have this Man U squad on the periphery of challenging for the title. 

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52 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I think someone showed here that he is underperforming his expected goals over the past year but not by a crazy rate. He should be a 1 in 4 man but he’s a 1 in 5 man. He’s not a crisp finisher or a composed one so that’s not a massive surprise. 

 

Loads was an overexaggeration, but for me it's rather the nature of the shots than the fact that he's not scoring them. Atleast make the goalkeeper work for it.. Doesn't look like he will be scoring those type of shots anytime soon.

 

 

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His goals vs xG stats all comps since joining us according to fbref:

 

22-23 - 1 goal from 1.7 xG

23-24 - 12 goals from 10.8 xG (11npG from 10 non-pelanty xG)

24-5 - 9 goals from 8 xG (7npG from 6.5 non-pelanty xG)

25-6 - 3 goals from 3.4 xG (1 from 1.8 NpxG)

 

TLDR: 20 non-pelanty goals from 20 non-pelanty xG. His shooting is fine. Not amazing but perfectly fine.

 

https://fbref.com/en/players/2bd83368/all_comps/Anthony-Gordon-Stats---All-Competitions

 

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Just now, Checko said:

His goals vs xG stats all comps since joining us according to fbref:

 

22-23 - 1 goal from 1.7 xG

23-24 - 12 goals from 10.8 xG (11npG from 10 non-pelanty xG)

24-5 - 9 goals from 8 xG (7npG from 6.5 non-pelanty xG)

25-6 - 3 goals from 3.4 xG (1 from 1.8 NpxG)

 

TLDR: 20 non-pelanty goals from 20 non-pelanty xG. His shooting is fine. Not amazing but perfectly fine.

 

https://fbref.com/en/players/2bd83368/all_comps/Anthony-Gordon-Stats---All-Competitions

 

What do his assists per 90 / game look like? Feel like he doesn’t get a lot of assists 

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1 minute ago, gbandit said:

What do his assists per 90 / game look like? Feel like he doesn’t get a lot of assists 

I'm not convinced the per 90 stats on that site are working properly tbh eg. gives same number of assists and expected assists for him per 90 even though the figures are different and neither quite adds up.

 

so I won't use them - all comps he got 10 assists in 23/24 and 6 last year (from 8.4 and 5 expected assists), his 2 full seasons with us. Doesn't sound much but not too dissimilar to other top wingers expected assists-

 

For example:

 

Eze  5.2, 6.2 expected assists last 2 full years

 

Martinelli 6.9, 7

 

Gakpo 5.7, 5.8

 

Mbeumo - 4.6, 8.3

 

Bowen - 6.4, 6.8

 

Obviously there's differences in teams and roles and minutes played and xA only measures a specific thing so it's only a rough comparison. He's certainly not a creative powerhouse, but it's not something I'm too worried about given his other qualities. With the way big Nick plays I think his pace and off the ball running could become very important.

 

Really I think what he needs is to be able to play and combo with a not-way-out-of-form Big Joe at LCM and a not-Dan Burn at LB.

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If I wanted to be really cynical I'd say it's not a coincidence that Gordon is able to shine against the likes of USG, Benfica, Latvia, and Wales. I'm not sure he's quite good enough to put in a performance like this against the best teams.

 

That said, absolutely outstanding tonight. Some of his decision making for when to come central both with and without the ball was top notch. Really great to see and will do so much for his confidence, which is clearly critical for him. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, timeEd32 said:

If I wanted to be really cynical I'd say it's not a coincidence that Gordon is able to shine against the likes of USG, Benfica, Latvia, and Wales. I'm not sure he's quite good enough to put in a performance like this against the best teams.

 

That said, absolutely outstanding tonight. Some of his decision making for when to come central both with and without the ball was top notch. Really great to see and will do so much for his confidence, which is clearly critical for him. 

 

 

His goal record against the best teams in the PL is excellent.

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1 minute ago, timeEd32 said:

If I wanted to be really cynical I'd say it's not a coincidence that Gordon is able to shine against the likes of USG, Benfica, Latvia, and Wales. I'm not sure he's quite good enough to put in a performance like this against the best teams.

 

That said, absolutely outstanding tonight. Some of his decision making for when to come central both with and without the ball was top notch. Really great to see and will do so much for his confidence, which is clearly critical for him. 

 

 

He's done it against everyone for us mind. 23/24 didn't he score against every one of the 'big 6'?

Brilliant tonight, seems to be in good nick, let's hope he keeps it up

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