bobbydazzla Posted Friday at 10:58 Share Posted Friday at 10:58 Nick De Marco KC writes this in his overview of the Football Regulator proposals: the existing financial rules are justified on sustainability and not competition grounds, and in many respect can be seen as anti-competitive, where they discourage investment and re-enforce the status quo in terms of bigger established clubs against others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Friday at 11:04 Share Posted Friday at 11:04 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: Who are the vampires? An Australian world roots jazz group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted Friday at 11:16 Share Posted Friday at 11:16 16 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Nick De Marco KC writes this in his overview of the Football Regulator proposals: the existing financial rules are justified on sustainability and not competition grounds, and in many respect can be seen as anti-competitive, where they discourage investment and re-enforce the status quo in terms of bigger established clubs against others. Who has hired him, is it City or are we part of a working group attempting to dismantle the current financial "status quo"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Friday at 11:27 Share Posted Friday at 11:27 (edited) 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: Who are the vampires? FIFA, UEFA, respective FAs, the big wigs that own clubs and the television. The working man's game is anything but. Businessmen and corrupt officials screwing the working man for their every last pennies to see their respective teams play, and folk lapping it up because that's their main source of "letting loose" at a weekend (which is absolutely fair and understandable). Edited Friday at 11:28 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted Friday at 11:37 Share Posted Friday at 11:37 (edited) 21 minutes ago, NG32 said: Who has hired him, is it City or are we part of a working group attempting to dismantle the current financial "status quo"? Not sure, but if someone told me that Richard Masters had been caught balls deep in De Marco’s lass whilst wearing a Tottenham football strip and De Marco was now on a vendetta to destroy Masters and the PL cartel, then I’d 100% believe them Edited Friday at 11:38 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Friday at 11:53 Share Posted Friday at 11:53 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: Who are the vampires? USA USA USA 🇺🇸 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted Friday at 12:26 Share Posted Friday at 12:26 3 hours ago, Big Geordie said: Not just the PL - European football too. Was discussing with my dad, yesterday - told him that Real Madrid battered Bayern 4-1 on Weds night, and neither of us really batted an eyelid. Such a game should be a knockout one with real jeopardy - not this meaningless league shite. People are and will switch off. I haven't bothered watching a champions league game after the first round I don't think. What do they matter? If you're a Villa fan for this season that might be different so I don't mean to do it down, but for anyone remotely neutral it's just games for games sake, with the same teams likely to get into the knockout rounds. So I won't bother to watch those either, except maybe for the final. And I'll probably not be bothered about who wins that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Friday at 12:29 Share Posted Friday at 12:29 There must be a different type of viewer and a big market though, no? Of course fans of individual clubs won’t care as much about the CL when they aren’t in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted Friday at 12:35 Share Posted Friday at 12:35 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: There must be a different type of viewer and a big market though, no? Of course fans of individual clubs won’t care as much about the CL when they aren’t in it. A wider global audience who have been fed the so called top clubs on footy games, twitter and merchandise. These corporate banks have probably looked at it and thought they can create a European football style, NFL franchise model to sell to this wider audience. However it will be soulless and empty of emotion. I suppose the money might be coming in but after that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted Friday at 15:31 Share Posted Friday at 15:31 (edited) 2 hours ago, NG32 said: A wider global audience who have been fed the so called top clubs on footy games, twitter and merchandise. These corporate banks have probably looked at it and thought they can create a European football style, NFL franchise model to sell to this wider audience. However it will be soulless and empty of emotion. I suppose the money might be coming in but after that? Which Global audience? Any one East of Middle East and Champions League is on too late. America and that's people finishing work at best on the East Coast, West Coast would be too early. Is it mainly Basically Africa and Europe who watch the matches? Edited Friday at 15:31 by macphisto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted Friday at 17:54 Share Posted Friday at 17:54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Friday at 18:21 Share Posted Friday at 18:21 Clubs will get higher gate receipts from the more and bigger matches. So far it looks more competitive than the old group stage. Only 8 automatic qualifiers adds jeopardy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted Sunday at 18:26 Share Posted Sunday at 18:26 I didn’t hear it but what’s the supposed crack about not being able to offer Isak a new contract because of Gordon’s and FFP? Out in it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted Sunday at 18:28 Share Posted Sunday at 18:28 they twisted what eddie said in his presser on friday. we have to be careful with contract extensions as it affects psr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted Monday at 11:54 Share Posted Monday at 11:54 Not sure where to put this but I was sat during the game yesterday thinking we are in a awful FFP situation and yet spent £150m in Summer 2023 on four players (Tonali, Barnes, Hall and Livramento) who have barely improved the first XI. Tonali is better than Longstaff clearly but not exactly setting the world on fire, Barnes doesn't get into first XI with Gordon fit, and Hall & Livramento are both still raw and neither look like £30m+ full backs today. Don't want to be all doom and gloom but the more I think about it, the more that window is the route of our problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Monday at 12:02 Share Posted Monday at 12:02 Just now, stozo said: Not sure where to put this but I was sat during the game yesterday thinking we are in a awful FFP situation and yet spent £150m in Summer 2023 on four players (Tonali, Barnes, Hall and Livramento) who have barely improved the first XI. Tonali is better than Longstaff clearly but not exactly setting the world on fire, Barnes doesn't get into first XI with Gordon fit, and Hall & Livramento are both still raw and neither look like £30m+ full backs today. Don't want to be all doom and gloom but the more I think about it, the more that window is the route of our problems. No - THIS window just gone is the issue. Last summer was still decent in terms of calibre of player and future proofing positions. This summer, we could have had Marmadshvilli as 1st choice - got Vlad as a 3rd choice instead We could have had Chiesa for 10m. We could have kept Minteh and Anderson. We could have had Simikan for 35m instead of Guehi. We could have gotten Tosin if we acted quicker and more aggressive. We didn't get Olise, but could have gotten Madueke had we acted quicker We could have sold Wilson, Almiron, Trippier, Longstaff, Targett We didn't get a better striker than Osula. We didn't get an athletic DM. This summer was a major flop. The beginning of the end was actually Man U winning the FA cup because if we had Europe to contend with, we would have been much more aggressive early on I would have thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Monday at 12:06 Share Posted Monday at 12:06 2 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: No - THIS window just gone is the issue. Last summer was still decent in terms of calibre of player and future proofing positions. This summer, we could have had Marmadshvilli as 1st choice - got Vlad as a 3rd choice instead We could have had Chiesa for 10m. We could have kept Minteh and Anderson. We could have had Simikan for 35m instead of Guehi. We could have gotten Tosin if we acted quicker and more aggressive. We didn't get Olise, but could have gotten Madueke had we acted quicker We could have sold Wilson, Almiron, Trippier, Longstaff, Targett We didn't get a better striker than Osula. We didn't get an athletic DM. This summer was a major flop. The beginning of the end was actually Man U winning the FA cup because if we had Europe to contend with, we would have been much more aggressive early on I would have thought. A lot of those players were never going to come here because the likes of Liverpool or Chelsea were also in for them. Madueke was definitely a chance missed though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted Monday at 12:11 Share Posted Monday at 12:11 5 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: No - THIS window just gone is the issue. Last summer was still decent in terms of calibre of player and future proofing positions. This summer, we could have had Marmadshvilli as 1st choice - got Vlad as a 3rd choice instead We could have had Chiesa for 10m. We could have kept Minteh and Anderson. We could have had Simikan for 35m instead of Guehi. We could have gotten Tosin if we acted quicker and more aggressive. We didn't get Olise, but could have gotten Madueke had we acted quicker We could have sold Wilson, Almiron, Trippier, Longstaff, Targett We didn't get a better striker than Osula. We didn't get an athletic DM. This summer was a major flop. The beginning of the end was actually Man U winning the FA cup because if we had Europe to contend with, we would have been much more aggressive early on I would have thought. This is written as if there’s no financial restrictions. We spent everything we could and more in summer 2023. It’s largely the reason for everything that has happened since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 12:13 Share Posted Monday at 12:13 10 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: No - THIS window just gone is the issue. Last summer was still decent in terms of calibre of player and future proofing positions. This summer, we could have had Marmadshvilli as 1st choice - got Vlad as a 3rd choice instead We could have had Chiesa for 10m. We could have kept Minteh and Anderson. We could have had Simikan for 35m instead of Guehi. We could have gotten Tosin if we acted quicker and more aggressive. We didn't get Olise, but could have gotten Madueke had we acted quicker We could have sold Wilson, Almiron, Trippier, Longstaff, Targett We didn't get a better striker than Osula. We didn't get an athletic DM. This summer was a major flop. The beginning of the end was actually Man U winning the FA cup because if we had Europe to contend with, we would have been much more aggressive early on I would have thought. Ridiculous amount of assumptions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted Monday at 13:18 Share Posted Monday at 13:18 1 hour ago, timeEd32 said: This is written as if there’s no financial restrictions. We spent everything we could and more in summer 2023. It’s largely the reason for everything that has happened since. This is exactly the point I'm making. We couldn't do Olise, Madueke, Tosin etc. or keep Minteh and Anderson precisely because we overspent in Summer 2023 - on players who, as it stands, were not worth mortgaging our future for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted Monday at 13:52 Share Posted Monday at 13:52 1 hour ago, stozo said: Not sure where to put this but I was sat during the game yesterday thinking we are in a awful FFP situation and yet spent £150m in Summer 2023 on four players (Tonali, Barnes, Hall and Livramento) who have barely improved the first XI. Tonali is better than Longstaff clearly but not exactly setting the world on fire, Barnes doesn't get into first XI with Gordon fit, and Hall & Livramento are both still raw and neither look like £30m+ full backs today. Don't want to be all doom and gloom but the more I think about it, the more that window is the route of our problems. Maybe we decided to bulk the squad up at the expense of the first team, apart from Tonali, for Champions League football which I fully understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 13:57 Share Posted Monday at 13:57 37 minutes ago, stozo said: This is exactly the point I'm making. We couldn't do Olise, Madueke, Tosin etc. or keep Minteh and Anderson precisely because we overspent in Summer 2023 - on players who, as it stands, were not worth mortgaging our future for. Maybe it's not about these specific examples, but I'm not convinced we could have got any of those. Olise is too good and Bayern wanted him, Madueke wasn't for sale, Tosin chose money and an easy life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted Tuesday at 20:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 20:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:41 19 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: He’s right of course - we can’t break in under the current circumstances. There is no ‘natural’ growth route to catch those teams. The only avenue available which PSR etc doesn’t touch is a new stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted Tuesday at 20:50 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:50 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: He’s right of course - we can’t break in under the current circumstances. There is no ‘natural’ growth route to catch those teams. The only avenue available which PSR etc doesn’t touch is a new stadium. Agreed……..good to see FFP/PSR being called out for what it is….anti competitive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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