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Singing Section at SJP - Poll  

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  1. 1. Would you want a large singing/standing section at St James' Park?

    • Yes. I'm an existing season ticket holder and I would want to be a part of it
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    • Yes. I'm an existing season ticket holder but wouldn't want to be part of it, but I would move to a seat somewhere else if the singing section was to be where I currently sit....as long as I was happy with the new seat.
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    • No. The atmosphere is fine as it is.
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    • No. The atmosphere needs to improve but this isn't the answer.
      8
    • Yes. I'm just a member at the moment but would want one in the singing section.
      80
    • Yes. I'm just a member at the moment but would want a season ticket in a non-singing section. But a singing section needs to happen to let people who want to sing be together
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6 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Blaming the Dortmund fans for our own utterly shite atmosphere is pretty pathetic mind. :lol:

 

Drum or no drum our lot turned up expecting to win and just pissed and moaned when we didn't. It was one of the most disappointing atmospheres I can ever remember considering the circumstances.


I could only tell by way of TV but I think this is spot on. I think I even expected us to win a little myself and I’m usually level headed. Did feel a bit like people were waiting for it to catch fire rather than the atmosphere driving the team. Dortmund did well to keep it quiet right enough, but we’re not really a crowd that keeps up the noise when things aren’t going our way.

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People just don’t seem to get that being a fan in the ground is an interactive experience, how you react to players influences how they react on the pitch and vice versa. It also completely changes your experience of the match, you’re more connected to it. It’s not like everyone needs to go full pelt all match long but ideally most people would. And the negativity is so frustrating, it’s ok to let out a gasp of disappointment but don’t follow it up with stuff about how shit the players are. Lad behind me was laying into Burn and Longstaff all match, was ridiculous 

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4 minutes ago, NUFC91 said:

We need mass seat moves, 8k like minded fans together. Hopefully we can make it happen but probably get moaning fuckers complaining as pee usual

Need a group to take the lead but as ever there's too many factions

I'd rather see the flags sacked off and an atmosphere like you've said rather than what we've got now

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Unlimited membership is an issue. 

 

"Oh Newcastle are playing PSG and Dortmund, I fancy that, I'll sign up and join the ballot"

 

"Oh I'd like to a see a semi final, I'll sign up for membership and join the ballot"

 

Membership should have went off sale as soon as a ball was kicked this season. You knew whether you were going to watch a game or not before the season started, not just because we drew Dortmund. The club has done fuck all for touting too but made it worse. 

 

If you really must buy off a tout, and I don't really blame people for it, I've done it before, do everyone a favour and report whoever's name is on the ticket post match.

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Just now, NUFC91 said:

Amount of people near me with tickets who honestly couldnt find their seats, sat with half and half scarfs, how are these getting tickets.

 

Dunno if its me just looking at it from a geet selfish POV but it feels like those are the sort of people the club wants getting tickets whereas non-ST holders who've been going to most games for years they couldn't give a shit about. All about "growing the fanbase". 

 

None of the issues from this season were happening last season AFAIK. Should speak volumes to the club but I honestly think they'll just dig their heels in; don't think they give a toss.

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30 minutes ago, gbandit said:

People just don’t seem to get that being a fan in the ground is an interactive experience, how you react to players influences how they react on the pitch and vice versa. It also completely changes your experience of the match, you’re more connected to it. It’s not like everyone needs to go full pelt all match long but ideally most people would. And the negativity is so frustrating, it’s ok to let out a gasp of disappointment but don’t follow it up with stuff about how shit the players are. Lad behind me was laying into Burn and Longstaff all match, was ridiculous 

 

You could hear it at the telly when Pope punched it shortly after they scored. It wasn't a reactive gasp or groan, it was a quick barrage of people shouting-complaining.

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1 minute ago, jack j said:

It's easy to blame these people. But there's 30+ thousand season ticket holders in there. That's the big majority. Why aren't they creating the noise?

 

Yeah. It's fair enough questioning the ticketing policy and how to get the people who really care in, but I don't think these lack of atmospheres can really be blamed on that.

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5 minutes ago, jack j said:

It's easy to blame these people. But there's 30+ thousand season ticket holders in there. That's the big majority. Why aren't they creating the noise?

 

Spot on, I think the trust/trusts need to push hard for seat moves. Anyone who wants to stand and create a noise needs to be together.

 

Too many boring moaning bastards

 

 

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Yeah I find it strange that there seem to a number talking as if shite atmosphere hasn't been a problem before this season. Granted there wasn't previously as much on pitch success to rally behind but I still came away from matches many a time thinking how shite the bulk of our fans had been.

 

 

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I guess it was because of how up for it everyone was against PSG from the first tackle. I know the goals helped in the end. But I don’t think it is unreasonable to expect something at least similar to that. 
 

FWIW, it sounded ok on the TV at times first half. But after they scored. You only heard them and their fucking annoying drum. Save for the odd COOOOMMMMEEEE OOOONNNNN when we won a corner or something. Followed by silence 5 seconds later. 

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3 minutes ago, NUFC91 said:

 

Spot on, I think the trust/trusts need to push hard for seat moves. Anyone who wants to stand and create a noise needs to be together.

 

Too many boring moaning bastards

 

 

 


Totally agree, the majority would stay in the strawberry corner anyway but others can move if they don’t want to be part of a singing section. There needs to be a fuss kicked up about the seating arrangements and the club need to know fans are frustrated they can’t generate an atmosphere they want.
 

Imo an absolute must is a second singing section near the away fans. Interaction with them is a big way to get the atmospheres going.

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2 minutes ago, wormy said:

Yeah I find it strange that there seem to a number talking as if shite atmosphere hasn't been a problem before this season. Granted there wasn't previously as much on pitch success to rally behind but I still came away from matches many a time thinking how shite the bulk of our fans had been.

 

 

 

 

 

Part of the problem this season is that the areas of the ground that were making an effort to create noise have been being diluted. Off the top of my head:

 

There's primary school aged kids being allocated seats in Gallowgate safe standing

Seated blocks adjacent to safe standing where people stood and created loads of noise have had letters from the club telling them to sit down or be banned

Lads were gathering together in the Leazes and forming a little singing section last season, they now can't get seats together cos of the ballot

 

We were seeing some positive signs, but PSG aside, this season has been shite compared to last season

 

 

 

 

 

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Bit shit to put it on the Ballot goers, like.

 

Aye I'm not a fan of the system, and yes there is 'day trippers' (not that there never has been) but it's a bit harsh to swing between 'Atmosphere was incredible. Credit to all those fans' to 'Atmosphere was shit. Fucking day trippers'. 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, TBG said:

Bit shit to put it on the Ballot goers, like.

 

Aye I'm not a fan of the system, and yes there is 'day trippers' (not that there never has been) but it's a bit harsh to swing between 'Atmosphere was incredible. Credit to all those fans' to 'Atmosphere was shit. Fucking day trippers'. 

They're miffed they ain't got unbridled access anymore, matey. Hence the angst at ballot "winners" ?

Every single person I know who's been successful in the ballot is a died in the wool, whole hearted supporter. 

The simple fact is this mythical super atmosphere scenario is exactly that, a myth. 

Absolutely fantastic when they're all "on it" but, like most home crowds, they need a goal, a tackle, a ref fuck up etc etc. 

I used to go all the time, I've heard silence before ?

Perhaps some supporters are still mired on the Ashley misery and have been so groomed by mediocrity they can't adjust. Clearly, when the teams on fire, the crowds on fire. 

 

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With or without a drum, the Germans would've drowned us out all evening - agree with what's been previously said - a larger section of the ground dedicated to people who wish to create an atmosphere is very much needed.

 

Sat in the Leazes corner (East Stand) and at around 80 minutes people starting heading towards the exit. 

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9 hours ago, Interpolic said:

I think I made some awkward eye contact with you in the Leazes concourse btw @AyeDubbleYoo, I was just about to say hello but you were wandering past then the moment was gone :lol: I wasn't at my most socially confident today, sorry.

 

Erm, I can't remember but no worries! Must've been too quick for me to realise. I was trying to work out why access 13 is followed by access 4 :lol:

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