Match Atmosphere

[Wallsendmag]

Just now, Elliottman said:

I can only go off what my ears heard 

 

 

 

You must have the best ears in the world then 

 

Or an absolutely incredible home sound system!

[Elliottman]

Just now, Wallsendmag said:

 

You must have the best ears in the world then 

 

Or an absolutely incredible home sound system!

It’s pretty decent to be fair.

 

I dunno, I’ve sat and watched games which have sounded a lot worse than it did last night. Someone posted in here during the game that they thought it sounded decent too. Probably not as good as it should have been, and it definitely died off at times. 
 

Doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things, I’m more annoyed at the state of football and what we’re up against than the atmosphere at the moment. 

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, Elliottman said:

It’s pretty decent to be fair.

 

I dunno, I’ve sat and watched games which have sounded a lot worse than it did last night. Someone posted in here during the game that they thought it sounded decent too. Probably not as good as it should have been, and it definitely died off at times. 
 

Doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things, I’m more annoyed at the state of football and what we’re up against than the atmosphere at the moment. 

 

They go hand in hand. A team who would pretty much have been dead on their feet after the last 2 epic games, and the growing injury list meaning we are pretty much down to the bare bones could probably have done with a passionate, radged up crowd to help them through. They certainly didn't get any help from the stands last night.

[El Prontonise]

I was in the middle of the leazes and you could hear the corner for most of the game but very little else from rest of the ground.  I was trying to join in but only 3-4 max joining in.

 

Yeah I'm getting sick of the atmosphere now, think I'll be going to significantly less games for rest of the season.

 

That atmosphere for a semi final was embarrassing, city fans rightly ribbed us with their chants.

 

 

Edited January 14 by El Prontonise

[Paully]

The corner and where I am just behind the Gallowgate goal was canny but the rest seemed flat as especially for a big semi final under the lights 

[OpenC]

36 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

It’s pretty decent to be fair.

 

I dunno, I’ve sat and watched games which have sounded a lot worse than it did last night. Someone posted in here during the game that they thought it sounded decent too. Probably not as good as it should have been, and it definitely died off at times. 
 

Doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things, I’m more annoyed at the state of football and what we’re up against than the atmosphere at the moment. 

 

I listened to the first 20 minutes on the radio and it sounded pretty good to me.  My lass came in and put the telly on instead and it immediately sounded much, much worse

 

As you say, this is an elite level football problem, not a Newcastle problem particularly, and is the inevitable outcome when the game is flooded with money but has to raise prices to compensate imo

[NUFC91]

The fact that people leave at 0-1 with 9 mins to go shows where we are....

 

Last night was a wake up call that we need a designated area in the ground, if you don't move fans around nothing will change.

[Sima]

Honestly don’t understand how some people get tickets.

 

There was a lass I used to work with and her husband on Instagram last night taking pictures in the Hotspur pregame.

 

Last time she put pictures up? Wembley last season.

[TheGuv]

This was the inevitable outcome after the ballot system was brought in and the reticence from the Club to have a second standing/singing section.

 

It is all so predictable and will only continue to get worse.

 

I’ve only been lucky once in the ballot this year and I’m not even sure i want to be successful again. How may others are beginning to feel the same?

[Kid Icarus]

When you sit and think about all of the factors contributing to a shit atmosphere it's surprising that we ever have one tbh.

 

 

Edited January 14 by Kid Icarus

[Rocker]

A Supporters Licence should be mandatory before anyone is allowed within fifty yards of a turnstile. Applicants would be subjected to a rigorous, FA sanctioned examination covering all the core competencies of modern fandom. This would include a practical assessment of song lyrics and vocal projection, with bonus marks for lung capacity.

 

There would also be a behavioural audit, measuring your historical and projected use of racial or homophobic slurs.

 

Candidates would then be evaluated on their commitment to dramatic early departures. Can you flounce out in the 84th minute when it is 1 to 1 and declare the game is over, even though it very much is not? Can you do it loudly, while blocking three rows of people and spilling someone else’s Bovril?

 

Only once you have demonstrated adequate incompetence across all modules would you be granted your laminated licence and allowed to sit in the cold, moan about the manager, and go home ten minutes before the winner goes in.

Football. The beautiful farce.

[NEEJ]

11 minutes ago, NUFC91 said:

The fact that people leave at 0-1 with 9 mins to go shows where we are....

 

Last night was a wake up call that we need a designated area in the ground, if you don't move fans around nothing will change.

The leavers were an absolute disgrace, like. I'd be amazed if the players didn't pick up on it - how demoralising, man. 

[Interpolic]

There's a massive demographics issue, most of SJP is essentially:

 

 

You can't take tickets off people and society is set up these days so older people have all the disposable income anyway. It's not an easy problem to solve. 

 

Dread to think what Howe's honest opinion is on how increasingly flat the atmosphere has become. It's probably been a major selling point to signings as well. 

[Gallowgate Toon]

I think it's a combination of ageing ST fanbase, expectation, lack of proactive thinking from the club around improving atmosphere, expense, and football fatigue.

 

I certainly felt pretty flat about this game going into it and I can only think it's that last point. I was good when I got in the ground but it just all felt a bit meh around town when it really shouldn't have. Strange.

 

I'm noticing more people around me moaning more too. I don't really know why they're going to the games.

 

 

Edited January 14 by Gallowgate Toon

[TheGuv]

6 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

I think it's a combination of ageing ST fanbase, expectation, lack of proactive thinking from the club around improving atmosphere, expense, and football fatigue.

 

I certainly felt pretty flat about this game going into it and I can only think it's that last point. I was good when I got in the ground but it just all felt a bit meh around town when it really shouldn't have. Strange.

 

I'm noticing more people around me moaning more too. I don't really know why they're going to the games.

 

 

 

It would be nice if the club actually tried to do some proactive and positive.

 

I’m not sure why they’re so reluctant though.

[Scoot]

2 hours ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Aye it was but that was a Sunday early kick off with a very small away following. 13.30 kick offs on a Sunday are never any good. This was a Cup Semi Final under the lights ffs and nobody could be arsed!

 

Thise players had just come off the back of 2 epic games which would have left them drained. They needed the energy of the home crowd last night to feed off and there was absolutely nothing coming from the stands at all. It was pitiful.

 

There's not another stadium in the UK that for a Cup Semi Final you've got the fans sat there on their hands in all 4 stands as was the case yesterday. Stamford Bridge isn't exactly what it used to be but look at what that'll be like tonight and compare the difference. 

 

I'll get stick for this but I'm not arsed. Your ST holders are your problem. I was surprised to read we have 35k of them this week. I didn't realise it was as high as that. I assumed 30k. This means that when you account for away fans, corporate, sponsors etc there's probably little over 10k going to members ballot. Not even going into how many of those 10k are ending up in the wrong hands, that's a separate argument, but around 80% of the home supporters are aged ST holders. Probably 80% of those add absolutely nothing at all to the atmosphere. 

 

I don't think there is a fix here. You can't change who goes to the match. You can move people around. You can put in rail seating. Ultimately it's still the same people in there though.

 

As I say last night, given the magnitude of the fixture, was the night it hit rock bottom.

 

You can move people together who want to sing though. Extend the standing section along the Gallowgate from the strawberry corner.

 

If people don't want to sing and stand they should be moved.

 

Remember, its not "their" seat, they rent it from the club on a season by season basis, so the club can move them to a sitting/quieter area where they can sit in silence with like minded people.

 

Then you can ask supporters if they'd be intetested in moving to a singing section in the gallowgate end.

[Sima]

8 minutes ago, TheGuv said:

It would be nice if the club actually tried to do some proactive and positive.

 

I’m not sure why they’re so reluctant though.

Terrified of the backlash, I’d imagine.

 

Which would last all of 6-8 weeks, max.

[Wallsendmag]

6 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

You can move people together who want to sing though. Extend the standing section along the Gallowgate from the strawberry corner.

 

If people don't want to sing and stand they should be moved.

 

Remember, its not "their" seat, they rent it from the club on a season by season basis, so the club can move them to a sitting/quieter area where they can sit in silence with like minded people.

 

Then you can ask supporters if they'd be intetested in moving to a singing section in the gallowgate end.

 

How many people do you estimate want to stand for 90 minutes in a singing area? 

 

I actually don't think it's very many at all.

 

The "backlash" isn't even a consideration for me. If it results in a few of the old timers taking a huff and wrapping it in then so be it.

 

I'm just not sure the appetite is there from the wider fanbase. We've always had the largest % of fans who remain seated in the Premier League. Problem is they also don't open their mouths now either.

[samptime29]

Pisses me off that I'm like 9 fails from 9 on ballot and you have people leaving early and not singing. I always sing and stay to the end. It's very frustrating tbh. I always thought growing up we had the best fans. Can we really say that now?

[Wallsendmag]

Just now, samptime29 said:

Pisses me off that I'm like 9 fails from 9 on ballot and you have people leaving early and not singing. I always sing and stay to the end. It's very frustrating tbh. I always thought growing up we had the best fans. Can we really say that now?

 

No we can't. Chelsea aren't exactly known for their passionate fanbase but watch the difference tonight compared to last night.

[TheGuv]

Finally received an email back from FAB.

 

The vacant spaces will be filled by NUST

 

 

Edited January 14 by TheGuv

[El Prontonise]

47 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

I think it's a combination of ageing ST fanbase, expectation, lack of proactive thinking from the club around improving atmosphere, expense, and football fatigue.

 

I certainly felt pretty flat about this game going into it and I can only think it's that last point. I was good when I got in the ground but it just all felt a bit meh around town when it really shouldn't have. Strange.

 

I'm noticing more people around me moaning more too. I don't really know why they're going to the games.

 

 

 

 

I think expectations are going through the roof with some fans.

[Wallsendmag]

[LFEE]

1 hour ago, El Prontonise said:

I was in the middle of the leazes and you could hear the corner for most of the game but very little else from rest of the ground.  I was trying to join in but only 3-4 max joining in.

 

Yeah I'm getting sick of the atmosphere now, think I'll be going to significantly less games for rest of the season.

 

That atmosphere for a semi final was embarrassing, city fans rightly ribbed us with their chants.

 

 

 

Atmosphere was good overall in the Gallowgate, Strawberry Corner playing the main part. Never heard the Man City fans once until a chant of where’s you famous atmosphere which everyone thought was a bit rich from them  Heard them when they scored the three goals but very little else.

 

End of the day this thread is pretty much pointless until we get a new stadium and better balance of acoustics and more friends sat together if its just for basing what you can hear and when so I think I’ll make it my last post inside it for a while.

 

Take your focus off the fans sometimes and put it on what they are watching. If your team is struggling to have much of the ball especially in the attacking third or sustain any sort of attacking play as well as not scoring then it’s always going to have its lulls with all the tactical fouling and VAR checks and fake cramp for extra team talks and time wasting and set plays taking forever. It’s killing the spectacle. 

 

Wissa scores that early chance and all of these posts from last night probably don’t even get made 

 

[Vedder]

21 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

How many people do you estimate want to stand for 90 minutes in a singing area? 

 

I actually don't think it's very many at all.

 

The "backlash" isn't even a consideration for me. If it results in a few of the old timers taking a huff and wrapping it in then so be it.

 

I'm just not sure the appetite is there from the wider fanbase. We've always had the largest % of fans who remain seated in the Premier League. Problem is they also don't open their mouths now either.

If you're talking about existing season ticket holders, I agree. If you include members in this, then I think there's a lot. Enough to cover say the Leazes/Milburn corner (I'd go from pitch side right up to level 7 there).