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could hear the city fans loud and clear back of Gallowgate. which was a bit annoying as it was detracting from me telling my mate all about my new house extension and upcoming holiday!

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11 minutes ago, Big River said:

could hear the city fans loud and clear back of Gallowgate. which was a bit annoying as it was detracting from me telling my mate all about my new house extension and upcoming holiday!

How’s the Porsche? Hope you’re looking forward to skiing in Tignes.

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@Superior Acuña you can't gauge the general atmosphere of the ground and definitely not the noise from the away end from The Corner, it's in its own little bubble.

 

There's loads of parts of the ground where you can't really hear the away fans even if they're in full voice all game.

 

I was back of Leazers East corner last night and never heard anything from the away end, as soon as I left the ground they were deafening because the sound carries over the East Stand, not into it.

 

Whereas against Leeds I was lower down in the same spot and all I could hear was Leeds songs, they were loud and relentless and the sound carried to where I was, because I wasn't under the East Stand roof.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

How many people do you estimate want to stand for 90 minutes in a singing area? 

 

I actually don't think it's very many at all.

 

The "backlash" isn't even a consideration for me. If it results in a few of the old timers taking a huff and wrapping it in then so be it.

 

I'm just not sure the appetite is there from the wider fanbase. We've always had the largest % of fans who remain seated in the Premier League. Problem is they also don't open their mouths now either.

 

Well for starters theres the back of the gallowgate who always seem to stand. Was right across for the cup game vs Bournemouth.

 

How many of them would want to move its impossible to say, that goes for anywhere else in the stadium.  But I reckon you could add a few thousand on to the standing section  of strawberry corner.

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54 minutes ago, NUFC91 said:

Just echoing what @Chicken Dancer and @Wallsendmag have said, the season ticket holders are the problem, when atmosphere is poor it's always "tourists" too many "plastic fans getting in" reality is 80% of the ground is season ticket holders..there's your problem, I'd also go as far as saying in several games this season the returned safe standing seats from away clubs have created more atmosphere that most parts of ground, they've actually got the leazes end going at times...

 

The biggest trouble is WF, trust and supporters club maybe only people who have a input into club but I think they should of really seen this as priority...look at arsenal at home last year in semis, generally cheered the lads over the line, this club, the players and managers deserve better from the supporters.

 

I'm just stating the obvious as well tbh.

 

We have 49,000 seats available to home fans for your typical league game where the away team takes their full allocation. We now know 35,000 of those seats are taken by ST holders. You'll have approximately 10,000 that will be balloted to members. Out of those 10k you'd like to think maybe 80% would go to genuine members who try to attend as many games as possible, so maybe 8k there and the remaining 2k snapped up by once/twice a season fans and tourists/bots. The other 4k will be corporate hospitality/sponsors tickets etc.

 

So the largest demographic of supporter by an absolute mile is the season ticket holder. They control what the atmosphere is like. Not the other demographics dotted about.

 

If it's good it's pretty much down to them, and same goes for if it's shite. So in short our atmosphere is dependant on a large group of people in their early 50s. Traditionally your football atmosphere was generated by teens/20s and 30 somethings.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Said it at the time, but the ST's I was was sat next to for Palace were the worst type of ST, proper scum of the earth.

 

Sneered at a lad singing and called him a day tripper. When the lass sat next to them got to her seat the first question they asked was "you don't normally sit here, how much did you pay for your ticket". And they then did nowt but yap about their moneyed lives for the entire 90 mins. Even continuing to yap as we were surging into the box on a counter. Cunts need banning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where we sit in the Leazes.  It is a mixture of mutes and then rows and rows that just yap all game, occasionally switching their focus to the game to boo the ref or give Elanga some shit.

 

I can't imagine this experience is unique to NUFC and its fans.  But it does seem to be getting worse. 

 

The entitlement and moaning, especially.  I mean fuck me, for most of our lives all we have been able to do is piss and moan about how shit we are.  Through most of my match going life, we had 14 straight years of actively looking to go out of cups and with the ultimate goal of just remaining in the PL.  I could understand it back then, even if it got tiresome listening to people boot off about it for 90 minutes. 

 

But nowadays, in comparison.  There is very little to moan about.  Yet so many just sit there in silence waiting to be entertained.  Or arguably worse, just talking about everything other than the game and not even looking at the pitch.  Then whip their head round to moan and groan when we concede, miss a chance, misplace a pass etc.    

 

Apart from Ipswich away, which was a proper old school away end.  The ones I've managed to get to under Howe have mainly been shit and all. 

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It seemed dead on the telly especially at the beginning. The commentators were banging on about the "cauldron of noise" and that the man city players were going to need to use telepathy to communicate" and I'm sitting there thinking it's dead as fuck. I cannot fathom what enjoyment you get from sitting in silence at a cup semi final or any game for that matter.  Whenever I see the likes of Bruno etc waving his hands to get the crowd going I cringe. He shouldnt have to do it. The new signings must be questioning what they have been told about our amazing fans etc. it's grim at the minute like.

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If I can't get in The Corner I'll generally choose a spot in the ground where I know I can stand without some cunt moaning at me.

 

Even last night, I was second back row and had a bairn aged about 10ish directly behind me. I'm tall so I turned and asked him if he could still see if I stood and he said "aye, definitely, all good" and I immediately thought that I liked this kid, not in a noncey way obviously.

 

There was at least 15-20 of us standing and if you look round the ground at the back row of blocks, you'll see loads of other people stood up.

 

The appetite is there, but the club seem dead set on not bringing in more rails. It's ridiculous.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

If I can't get in The Corner I'll generally choose a spot in the ground where I know I can stand without some cunt moaning at me.

 

Even last night, I was second back row and had a bairn aged about 10ish directly behind me. I'm tall so I turned and asked him if he could still see if I stood and he said "aye, definitely, all good" and I immediately thought that I liked this kid, not in a noncey way obviously.

 

There was at least 15-20 of us standing and if you look round the ground at the back row of blocks, you'll see loads of other people stood up.

 

The appetite is there, but the club seem dead set on not bringing in more rails. It's ridiculous.

 

 

 

 

Aye, I'm either back of the Gallowgate or the corner or else I don't ENJOY THE GAME nowhere near as much. I was in the corner for Bournemouth on Saturday and started off my fair share of chants but they naturally build in that section anyway.

 

I've won in the Brentford ballot so will try to get the same seat, I'd imagine.

 

Been fortunate enough to get on corporates in the Champions Club for the CL games this season and the atmosphere is fucking dead in there. 

 

Mainly due to most cunts in there not even arsed about what is on display.

 

 

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I've been in the corner safe standing 5 times I think now. Just feels like a completely different experience to sitting in some random seat in most of the ground, I by far prefer it. Feel so much more engaged - a fan, not a spectator, like you do at an away game. Would kill for a ST there. 

 

Back of Gallowgate is next best, good atmosphere - largely thanks to some good lads from here. (Would be nice if there was a bit more sunlight there though like :lol:)

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Also, for the calls for younger fans... The younger people who sit around me at the game are woeful, they just sit on their phones looking at betting apps (not sure how they get signal?!) and then flop off at 30 minutes for shite food.

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Just now, Gallowgate Toon said:

Also, for the calls for younger fans... The younger people who sit around me at the game are woeful, they just sit on their phones looking at betting apps (not sure how they get signal?!) and then flop off at 30 minutes for shite food.

Aye, there are swathes of shit people of all demographics. Don’t know what the answer is other than more standing sections 

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Knew it was going to be shit last night as the pubs were dead and was no pre match atmosphere at all.

 

The worst bit is that the atmosphere has been good at times over the last few years but only in a handful of games , it shows it can be done when people can be arsed but for some reason they choose not to.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Also, for the calls for younger fans... The younger people who sit around me at the game are woeful, they just sit on their phones looking at betting apps (not sure how they get signal?!) and then flop off at 30 minutes for shite food.

Aye mobile phones is another reason the atmosphere is shite as well to be fair. People are glued to them 

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What's changed though? In 21/22 and 22/23 the atmosphere was banging in the big games. Like all stadiums, it's never as good for a standard Saturday 3pm (and has always been the case since I've been going) but I remember playing a poor Southampton in April 23, 0-1 down at HT and we sucked the ball into the Gallowgate second half.

 

A lot of it is down to the success we've had IMO. Even Barca compared to PSG was night and day - totally get that was our first home game back in the CL for ages, but I remember being in my seat about 15 minutes before kick off and the ground was full, the display was already happening and Three Little Birds was being blasted. The concourses were banging and town was electric beforehand, you could actually feel it when you arrived in the City.

 

Liverpool this year was actually really good and had the same feel when I got off the metro, but apart from that (and City in the league, ish) it's been piss poor all season.

 

Last night was really bad and as others have said, I could tell it was going to be the case the minute I got to town.

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The fire drill after the late goal went in made me angry and in honesty am I still fuming.

 

I know it's cold, the game's over at that point and it's disappointing and it doesn't make for a good instagram post. But fucking hell, they've ran their arses off after two other big performances in the last seven days and been beaten by one of the best teams in the world in a semi-final of a competition where we are the defending holders.

 

The squad deserved better than to be walking around applauding stands that are maybe 20% full at most. But people can't give them another five minutes of their lives because we got beat? Can't imagine how deflating that must feel for the likes of Hall after the shift he put in.

 

It's a reflection of the spoilt nature of modern society suppose, but really pisses me off.

 

The whole atmosphere around town and in the ground last night was like night and day compared to the semi-finals in 2023 and 2025. I get there's a bit of "football fatigue" with it being the last of 4 home games in 10 days but it also feels a bit like spoilt bastard syndrome where we're now disinterested or unimpressed by semi-finals?!?

 

As for the Man City fans, I agree they were nowt flash but after they got going (which took 15-20 minutes) they were just as loud as Leeds last week, from exactly the same seat I sit in for every game.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, jack j said:

Aye mobile phones is another reason the atmosphere is shite as well to be fair. People are glued to them 


I can’t use my phone from when I approach SJP to when I get back down to the quayside after - I don’t know what network these people are on. 

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Think with it being first leg didn't help.

 

Southampton semi-final second leg was bouncing (helped by us winning obviously). But I do think there is an entitlement creeping in, unfortunately.

 

Only going to get worse as well, with the young ones having not suffered through what we all have in the past, one of them things I guess.

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10 minutes ago, CallumG6 said:

Think with it being first leg didn't help.

 

Southampton semi-final second leg was bouncing (helped by us winning obviously). But I do think there is an entitlement creeping in, unfortunately.

 

Only going to get worse as well, with the young ones having not suffered through what we all have in the past, one of them things I guess.

 

I was up in Level 7 for Southampton and it was absolutely shite. I mean really bad. Stuck it out till about the 80th minute and said to the bairn they'll have opened the gates by now so why don't we nip out and walk back into the Gallowgate and find a couple of spare seats in there instead?

 

So that's what we did. And it was absolutely electric. Couldn't hear them in L7 though.

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11 minutes ago, CallumG6 said:

Think with it being first leg didn't help.

 

Southampton semi-final second leg was bouncing (helped by us winning obviously). But I do think there is an entitlement creeping in, unfortunately.

 

Only going to get worse as well, with the young ones having not suffered through what we all have in the past, one of them things I guess.

This is a great point and definitely a factor, some of the takes I've heard in the last few years if a game's been a bit stodgy or we've not been playing well have been wild.

 

"This is the worst we've ever fucking played we're totally shit" or something like that coming from a younger bunch when we beat Brentford 1-0 a few years ago just before we played Milan away still sticks out in my mind. I know emotions run high etc but come on [emoji38]

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