Match Atmosphere

[Izakaya]

29 minutes ago, SteV said:

Mate, no offence, but taking a two year to a game is utterly pointless, and I can only see it being a stressful experience for all involved.

 

Appreciate that coming from Oz you want to take every chance you can get to attend, and you might not know when the next time will be when you get to go with him. But, regardless, it isn’t the place for a two year old.

 

If you wanted to go yourself though, investigate getting an overseas membership. Wouldn’t guarantee anything, but would give you a chance at a reasonable cost.

 

Failing that, closer to the time you might find someone on here that’s prepared to transfer you there ticket at FV. Obviously will probably depend on what’s riding on the game as to how likely that is.

 

Failing that, then third party sites are an option, and whilst people on here have used them successfully, it’s always iffy. Cost-wise, could be anything from <£100 if there’s nothing riding on the game, to bank loan territory if there’s something massive on it.

 

Also, be aware that the date of the game isn’t set in stone yet. Could be anywhere across that weekend Fri - Mon, so be careful with your travel plans.

 

Yeah fair enough. He's currently permanently stuck in turbo mode at the minute so yeah, his attention span won't be big enough to sit through 2hrs of football, even if I do stick Ms Rachel on my phone for him to watch. Thought I'd ask as I always see kids of all ages right down to babies at the MCG to watch AFL games, but obviously PL football is a way different atmosphere. 

 

I'm back from the 1st to 17th May so hopefully it isn't rescheduled too much. 

[Whitley mag]

10 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

I’ve been regularly going to games since 2005. It has always been the version of Blaydon Races sung at x3 speed and with the wrong words. 
 

Probably better off it dies out if that’s the shite that gets belted out. Absolutely butchered our own song/chant.

 

 

 

Even the Blaydon Races sang quickly is better than Bruno on the middle and ei ei ei oh

[SteV]

5 minutes ago, Izakaya said:

 

Yeah fair enough. He's currently permanently stuck in turbo mode at the minute so yeah, his attention span won't be big enough to sit through 2hrs of football, even if I do stick Ms Rachel on my phone for him to watch. Thought I'd ask as I always see kids of all ages right down to babies at the MCG to watch AFL games, but obviously PL football is a way different atmosphere. 

 

I'm back from the 1st to 17th May so hopefully it isn't rescheduled too much. 

You never know, the Champions League Semi Final second legs are set for the 7/8th May…

[Pancrate1892]

I'm wanting to take my pet snake to the match on Saturday. Is there any snake facilities ? He doesn't like noise, so can the rest of you just fuck off for most the game 

[Yorkie]

If it counts for anything, Howe seemed genuinely mystified by the question in the presser about the owners' tweets re the atmosphere.

 

For all we might bemoan the noise in the ground - with years/decades/generations of experiences to compare with 2023 - the players and staff always seem to be genuinely galvanised by SJP.

[NE27]

7 hours ago, Pancrate1892 said:

I'm wanting to take my pet snake to the match on Saturday. Is there any snake facilities ? He doesn't like noise, so can the rest of you just fuck off for most the game 

 

Just stick his ear defenders on and give him a fun and laughter bar.

[OCOCOL]

8 hours ago, Yorkie said:

If it counts for anything, Howe seemed genuinely mystified by the question in the presser about the owners' tweets re the atmosphere.

 

For all we might bemoan the noise in the ground - with years/decades/generations of experiences to compare with 2023 - the players and staff always seem to be genuinely galvanised by SJP.

Mehrad was at St Pancras yesterday surrounded by quite a few of our fans. I wasn’t close enough to hear what was being said but I assume he was backtracking. 

[OCOCOL]

On another note was great getting off the Eurostar and hearing “an N and an E and. wubble U, C” belting round the Gare du Nord.  Spoke to a canny few favs without tickets so whilst not on Dortmund proportions reckon there’s a canny turnout here. 

[WideopenMag]

People wanting to take young kids is one of the reasons the atmosphere is shite these days tbh. Going to the football was never meant to be a family day out.

[gbandit]

Bringing kids to games is how you set up a lifelong love of the club and get new generations coming through. Not everyone needs to be singing their lungs out every minute and it’s the responsibility of the older fans to do that. However, there’s a fine line. I’d only take my daughters if I thought they would focus on it for the 90 mins otherwise it would ruin the game for me 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, WideopenMag said:

People wanting to take young kids is one of the reasons the atmosphere is shite these days tbh. Going to the football was never meant to be a family day out.

 

One of the strangest things I've read this week. Granted it is only 9:07 Tuesday. 

[NE27]

Whilst I do believe the atmosphere at St James' has changed (I do feel this is a widespread issue across PL, Villa fans are discussing the same thing on their forums for example), ther is definitely some revisionism going on here in regards to atmospheres.

 

Trust need to make this a high priority and seek changes by the club going into next season. If they want St James' to be one of the most Intimidating places to go for away teams, then they need to allow for a structure that gets the most fervent supporters together in a standing/singing section.

 

It almost feels to easy when you say it, but for some reason the ticketing is a mess.

[Lush Vlad]

10 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

Even the Blaydon Races sang quickly is better than Bruno on the middle and ei ei ei oh

Can’t disagree there. Our songbook is wank. 

[Guest]

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[PCW1983]

12 hours ago, Izakaya said:

Wanted to ask a question regarding ticketing and with this thread having the biggest discussion on it I thought I'd post in here.

 

I'm coming back to Newcastle from Australia in May and the only home game on while I'm there is the last home game of the season against Brighton. Obviously I'd love to attend and I'd love to take my son who will turn two at the end of January. 

 

My questions are this;

 

There's a lot of talk about tickets being resold on 3rd party sites, and while this is something I know annoys local fans, it seems this will be the only way I'll be able to secure a ticket without a membership. 

 

What kind of costs will I be looking at for a ticket on these sites? 

 

And realistically, how feasible is it to take a kid of that age to a game? Is there a family room at SJP I could use to change nappies, or maybe sit in for a bit if he gets restless? And is there any particular section I'd need to sit in to access these services? 

 

Thanks 

I’ve got three kids and two season tickets. 
I take my two eldest on rotation (9/7) and to be fair, they love it and join in to an extent. 
 

I didn’t start taking them till they were 5 though as they’d not have watched or enjoyed it, even now the noise can overwhelm them at times. 
 

There are times when I can see there not as engaged in the match that I feel a sense of guilt because I know how many fans would love to sit where my bairns are but that’s life I suppose. 
 

I don’t think a 2 YO will enjoy the match, nor will you but don’t let that stop you because I found that it’s canny testing in the early days until they “get it”. 
Support the match day experience with watching it in the house with them etc. 

 

My life has changed dramatically since I started going to the football with my mates, we’ve been all over Europe (currently sitting in Paris) and all over the country but I’ve never enjoyed football as much as I do with the bairn, it’s fantastic scoring a goal and seeing how jubilant they are. 
 

Do it, just make sure they are as ready as can be and not that you’re ready for them to be. 

[Izakaya]

47 minutes ago, WideopenMag said:

People wanting to take young kids is one of the reasons the atmosphere is shite these days tbh. Going to the football was never meant to be a family day out.

 

I'm guessing you don't have kids eh.

 

My son is Australian, and will be living his life a million miles from the childhood in the NE that I had. Taking him to SJP at 2.5 years old will literally be one of his first and core memories. His name is even on the massive surfer flag. Why the fuck wouldn't I want to do that?

[WideopenMag]

5 minutes ago, Izakaya said:

 

I'm guessing you don't have kids eh.

 

My son is Australian, and will be living his life a million miles from the childhood in the NE that I had. Taking him to SJP at 2.5 years old will literally be one of his first and core memories. His name is even on the massive surfer flag. Why the fuck wouldn't I want to do that?

There's nothing wrong with you doing that mate, hope you do and enjoy yourself. However my point was only relating to the atmosphere as that is what this thread is about. 

[ryanegg]

1 hour ago, WideopenMag said:

People wanting to take young kids is one of the reasons the atmosphere is shite these days tbh. Going to the football was never meant to be a family day out.

Suppose it depends on the kid, but I’ve had some of the best days/atmospheres when taking one of the family’s kids with me.. most of them love it when you get a song going and then are well up for it themselves. 
 

Did you go to games as a kid may I ask? 

[TheGuv]

I went to my first game as a 7 year old. Loved it. I played football and was in love straight away. Season tickets in Level 7 for the start of the 01-02 season with my dad and 11 year old brother. Singing and learning the songs were the Toon Ultras originally congregated. 
 

There is a fine line however. I think had I gone as a 4 or 5 year old I wouldn’t have had a clue what was going on and probably would have been overawed. I certainly won’t be taking my lad until he can appreciate it. I don’t want his and my first memory of the game being him crying, or being overwhelmed or what have you. I want us both to enjoy it. I’m not sure how a 2 1/2 year old will make it an enjoyable experience for either of you tbh - despite the best intentions you may have. 

[WideopenMag]

28 minutes ago, ryanegg said:

Suppose it depends on the kid, but I’ve had some of the best days/atmospheres when taking one of the family’s kids with me.. most of them love it when you get a song going and then are well up for it themselves. 
 

Did you go to games as a kid may I ask? 

The odd cup game when I was maybe 7/8 then went a lot when I was in my teens. My point is there's clearly a difference in the atmosphere and match day experience now it's becoming more family oriented, which is fine if that's the way they want to go with it but don't expect it not to effect the atmosphere.

[ryanegg]

2 minutes ago, WideopenMag said:

The odd cup game when I was maybe 7/8 then went a lot when I was in my teens. My point is there's clearly a difference in the atmosphere and match day experience now it's becoming more family oriented, which is fine if that's the way they want to go with it but don't expect it not to effect the atmosphere.

 

I get where you're coming from. It'd be hard to judge, but I've noticed no more kids than usual being brought to the games. I certainly don't think that there's that much of an influx of families to have an impact on the atmosphere. If there were a few thousand more, maybe. 

[Yorkie]

@Izakaya presumably it's plausible that you'll have another opportunity to take him when he's at an age where he'll really appreciate it? I get the temptation to do it now but if the goal here is for him to revel in his Dad's passions, might the better approach would be to resist and do it when he can't wait to be there? 

 

I wrestle with this all the time and I'm not even a parent.  Can't bear the thought of having to wait another 7 or 8 years to take my wee'un to the game but I know that's the sensible thing to do. My first game (that age) remains one of my greatest ever memories. I can't remember a thing from when I was two...

[huss9]

2 hours ago, WideopenMag said:

People wanting to take young kids is one of the reasons the atmosphere is shite these days tbh. Going to the football was never meant to be a family day out.

wt actual fuck?

makes it even better with your kids.

[Wallsendmag]

4 hours ago, WideopenMag said:

People wanting to take young kids is one of the reasons the atmosphere is shite these days tbh. Going to the football was never meant to be a family day out.

 

I'd say it's the opposite problem. Too many old, miserable bastards there these days. Back in the 80s the average age of your supporter in the Gallowgate or Leazes End would have been 20s. Probably nearer 50 now.

 

Back in the day once you got to a certain age you migrated to the West or East Stands or the West Stand Paddocks if you didn't fancy sitting but now everyone has to stay put.

[madras]

Lots of "it would be better if everyone was me" going on I see.