KaKa Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, Eveready said: We'll be able to bank the net profit of the Minteh sale all in the current accounting year (selling price minus current remaining c.£6m remaining net book value). I believe the amortisation of players transfer fees can probably be calculated daily so if we sign him on June 30th we'll only day 1 day of 5 years of his transfer fee amortised in this accounting year (1/1,825th of the transfer fee). I hear you. Ultimately year on year, the commercial team, need to be working over time on ways to improve the money coming in. Could do with some hotels to flog too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 15 minutes ago, KaKa said: Fair enough. Now guys, if you're going to deliver shots like this when I misunderstand something, please no complaining when I do it in future, okay? Because for some reason no one remembers this when I do it! Okay so we won't have another 3 years of leeway, but still it opens up bit more time, and the Minteh money is not being swallowed up by the money spent on DCL, because they don't count against the PSR in the same way, correct? Yeah luckily for you its not painstakingly spelt out every day on here. That would be embarrassing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 Christ I really just read sell Tonali for £30m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 (edited) 30 minutes ago, KaKa said: PSR is done in three year cycles. This June 30th is the end of a 3 year cycle. Selling Minteh is to pass the current 3 year cycle of PSR. Doing the deal with Everton also helps them do the same, while also getting a player the club value in DCL. We are not selling Minteh in order to buy DCL! This then means from July our spending power opens up again and gives us another 3 years of time to make sure we fall within PSR, and so we can spend quite freely and have a much longer time period to balance the books etc, which will include getting more commercial deals and all that stuff. Having then passed the current PSR period, it will mean from July 1st we can spend a pretty significant amount of money, depending on how much the club has decided to budget for the summer, and how much they want to push the boat out. Again, we are not selling Minteh, in order to spend the funds on DCL! Yes I get psr mate. my comments are in relation to the story yesterday of minteh going to Everton and DCL coming here. Again pack in the condesending attitude I understand how it works. I’m just not keen on the deal with Everton Edited June 23, 2024 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 1 minute ago, Fezzle said: Yeah luckily for you its not painstakingly spelt out every day on here. That would be embarrassing Cool, so the premise of what I said still stands then. We just don't have full 3 year cycles. Thanks for your enlightenment and for being such a gracious guru, oh PSR wise one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 18 minutes ago, Away Toon said: The french press have Marseille, Roma and Everton in for Minteh. I've an idea how to get around the PSR problem by the end of the month. Sell Tonali for 30m back to Italy, we won't have missed anything as apart from one game he was at best average and the rest of the time suspended. And the fucker hasn't apologised. Worst take in the last couple of days - and thats some achievement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 1 minute ago, gdm said: Yes I get psr mate. my comments are in relation to the story yesterday of minteh going to Everton and DCL coming here. Again pack in the condesending attitude I understand how it works. I’m just not keen on the deal with Everton Your post read as though you thought the money from Minteh was for the DCL deal. Was just trying to clarify that. The club do like DCL, but the Minteh thing with Everton also helps us out, will be interesting to see if there's any buy back inserted. If so, then we do rate the guy and are just doing what's necessary, if not, then it likely means we don't rate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: Your post read as though you thought the money from Minteh was for the DCL deal. Was just trying to clarify that. The club do like DCL, but the Minteh thing with Everton also helps us out, will be interesting to see if there's any buy back inserted. If so, then we do rate the guy and are just doing what's necessary, if not, then it likely means we don't rate him. I’ve said repeatedly if minteh does go I hope it’s out with the premier league and I really don’t like the thought of signing DCL no matter how much the club value him. That’s just my opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gdm said: I’ve said repeatedly if minteh does go I hope it’s out with the premier league and I really don’t like the thought of signing DCL no matter how much the club value him. That’s just my opinions. Okay, got you! Don't worry, you'll feel better when DCL is cooking with Isak next season Edited June 23, 2024 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 30 minutes ago, Away Toon said: The french press have Marseille, Roma and Everton in for Minteh. I've an idea how to get around the PSR problem by the end of the month. Sell Tonali for 30m back to Italy, we won't have missed anything as apart from one game he was at best average and the rest of the time suspended. And the fucker hasn't apologised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 Going to be so interesting to see where Minteh ends up next season and how he does. Bunch of story lines that will be fascinating to see play out regarding all of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 1 hour ago, christ said: That’s an overly simplistic way of looking at it because of the way FFP works. But even accepting that statement as true, we need to raise the floor as well as the ceiling. Last season our biggest issue was squad depth - the existence of it or quality of it. If we’re serious about competing we need a bigger pool of Premier League ready players. We will be playing less games this season and I’m sure nobody wants to suffer another season of watching Almiron starting. We can still improve our first team and this should be the focus. Also, if Minteh is to be sold let’s make sure his position is improved. Absolutely nothing wrong with DCL and Kilman but as I said yesterday, I don’t want to hear the club crying about FFP when we keep shopping in waitrose for squad players at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: We will be playing less games this season and I’m sure nobody wants to suffer another season of watching Almiron starting. We can still improve our first team and this should be the focus. Also, if Minteh is to be sold let’s make sure his position is improved. Absolutely nothing wrong with DCL and Kilman but as I said yesterday, I don’t want to hear the club crying about FFP when we keep shopping in waitrose for squad players at that. Let’s see how things stand at the end of the transfer window, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, christ said: Let’s see how things stand at the end of the transfer window, eh? Enough with this voice of reason crack. Lets just roll with the Brexit Eddie, Waitrose shopping, flog the deadwood, just take the points intellectuals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 7 minutes ago, christ said: Let’s see how things stand at the end of the transfer window, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 35 minutes ago, KaKa said: Okay, got you! Don't worry, you'll feel better when DCL is cooking with Isak next season Crocked more likely than cooking when it comes to DCL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 Just now, Joe1984 said: Crocked more likely than cooking when it comes to DCL! See you in August pal! We shall see! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 6 hours ago, Thumbheed said: £40m is magnificent business. If the profile of player we're after is Olise level then Minteh is unlikely to ever be worth this much again playing for us. DCL over the line means the rest of the window will likely be first teamers only and we'll have barely spent anything so far in the process of creating the squad that allows us to do that. RW CD CM? Olise has had one good season (in which he was injured for half of). His two seasons before that were not really impressive, and at Mintehs age he was struggling to get into Readings squad and ended the season with 1 assist, 0 goals in 19 appearances. Was this his Almiron/Lingaard season? There's no guarantee he would massively improve us either. Bigger probability yes, but would still have been a huge gamble due to his high price, while we already have Minteh on our books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 We really need a PSR sticky thread that just has the rules and how it impacts us. We have the same conversations daily because most don’t understand how it works. ——— Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: We really need a PSR sticky thread that just has the rules and how it impacts us. We have the same conversations daily because most don’t understand how it works. ——— Probably not a bad idea to be fair. Although, even spelled out its quite tricky to understand. I think I have a grasp on it but I'm not overly confident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The College Dropout Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 Olise is class and has looked to have real quality for years. But aye this is the first season he’s hooked it up consistently and produced goals and assists regularly. Minteh at 19 is way ahead of Olise at the same age. His output and underlying stats (at 19) has him on an elite trajectory. He’s the type of player Dortmund sign and look to flip for £50m+. IF (major IF) he continues to develop the way he should, he’s going to be a v. good player. It wouldn’t be a surprise to see him go for more money than Olise has in a few years. Physically he’s big and fast - and should only get stronger and quicker. One footed but a great left foot with great dribbling ability. And he’s already proven he can score a lot of goals at a fairly high level. He even did in the other professional league too. He built on that promising trajectory. it’s just early for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 On Minteh, I can absolutely see why a raft of European clubs are keen. He's a much safer bet for a Lyon, a Dortmund etc. I'm not sure Everton are making a sound investment at 40m though. I'd really like to think Newcastle are sticking in a sell on clause or a buy back clause. We need to protect against the possibility of him moving on to bigger or better things. I also hope Newcastle are prioritising Minteh going abroad, rather than selling to the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 How long til someone mentions a swap deal for cherki Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 He won’t be going for close to 40m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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