Yankuba Minteh (now playing for Brighton & Hove Albion)

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, gdm said:

Coz it will sting having him on our books and he ends up brilliant. 

If we get to where we'd like to get, there will be a lot of that over the next few years.  Too many seem to be thinking as they did when Ashley ran the club.  

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

I wonder how Chelsea feel having had the likes of Salah, KdB, Olise and Musiala on the books

 

Difficult to fathom.

I'm willing to bet that England's most successful club of this century found a way to deal with it ...

[Gawalls]

Just now, gdm said:

Coz it will sting having him on our books and he ends up brilliant. 

All the big clubs sell on players like this - everyone on here wants us to be one of them so this is how the game needs to be played, better and smarter money men than us are crunching numbers and doing what has to be done so I trust them.

 

If say he were to make it then people will remember the negative side only “if only we had kept him then…”. If that day comes it would be an eye opener if one of Newcastles Accountants could finish that sentence for us to hear.

[Kid Icarus]

At best he's torn it up in Eridivisie. He could end up being great, he could be a flop. Where he's played doesn't really give any indication of what the outcome will be vs other leagues.

 

Shame we haven't seen him get a chance but if Howe doesn't fancy him for whatever reason and we can make a profit to get someone in that he does fancy, sobeit. He and the club will live and die by these decisions.

 

Going on like this is a Salah, KDB situation isn't really based on anything. 

[gdm]

8 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

I wonder how Chelsea feel having had the likes of Salah, KdB, Olise and Musiala on the books

 

Difficult to fathom.

The fact we had Toney and he’s turned out alright (betting ban aside) still stings me

[Shak]

19 minutes ago, Zero said:

 

If we need to sell Minteh before the June deadline due to PSR, and we won’t have Europe football next season, why would people got their hopes up that we could spend big on someone this summer? We are already in the PSR red zone.

 

It's all needlessly complicated because football is shit now but on a very basic level...

 

The entire transfer fee we get for Minteh counts as incoming funds for PSR this year, while whatever we spend on a replacement is divided by five and split over the next five years (assuming we sign the guy to a five year contract)

 

So if we sell Minteh for 30m and sign somebody else for 60m, that counts as 30m incoming on transfer fees and 12m outgoing.

 

Obviously it's adding an extra 12m to our outgoings in the next four seasons too but that's a problem from our future accounting team.

[gdm]

10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

If we get to where we'd like to get, there will be a lot of that over the next few years.  Too many seem to be thinking as they did when Ashley ran the club.  

God this condescending attitude is tiresome as fuck. We know we need to sell to progress. Everyone on here gets it. It’s not some complex idea you and a few others have figured out. Doesn’t mean we have to be happy with selling an exciting prospect. I just hope he goes outwith the premier league 

 

 

Edited June 23, 2024 by gdm

[TheBrownBottle]

4 minutes ago, gdm said:

God this condescending attitude is tiresome as fuck. We know we need to sell to progress. Everyone on here gets it. It’s not some complex idea you and a few others have figured out. Doesn’t mean we have to be happy with selling an exciting prospect. I just hope he goes outwith the premier league 

 

 

 

Fair enough.  Wasn’t trying to be condescending, but see that I might have been.

 

I would say that I know it isn’t a complex idea.  It seems pretty obvious to me. 

[The Prophet]

31 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I'm willing to bet that England's most successful club of this century found a way to deal with it ...

 

It's more the point that it's a completely alien concept to us, one that we'll have to get used to if we're to navigate PSR.

[r0cafella]

58 minutes ago, christ said:

The sooner people accept that deals for players like Minteh, Harrison, Kuol etc are just as much about grabbing assets we think we can flip for FFP purposes as they are getting future NUFC players the better. We’ll be doing a lot of this over the next few years, especially with the way we’ve been aggressively hoovering up young talent to pad out the youth teams. Don’t get attached.

I think the particular grievance in this case is the players we’ve been linked with since, people are interpreting this as sell someone with high potential to bring in mid table players who won’t improve much and will be depth/rotation options. 

[Mikky]

Think with Minteh you put a 2 year buy back option - then assess after this period - if hasn’t kicked on then move on - put a sell on fee and job done 

[gdm]

2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I think the particular grievance in this case is the players we’ve been linked with since, people are interpreting this as sell someone with high potential to bring in mid table players who won’t improve much and will be depth/rotation options. 

Very much this. If selling minteh allows us to bring in real top class winger I’ll suck it up. If it’s done to bring in DCL i just can’t get excited about it 

[The Prophet]

To be fair, it's not being done to bring in DCL, it's being done to balance the books for the last three years of spending.

[simonsays]

It's just FOMO with Minteh - the idea he will succeed at a different club is a hard one to swallow.  Unfortunately it's something we will have to get used to.  

 

If his sale allows us to keep within PSR and fund an Olise level RW then I'll be happy.

[dave s]

players who were worldies in dutch leagues but done naff all here .. we’ve had a couple before 😂

 

be good to see him get a chance though, he’s young and Eddie might be the right bloke to bring him through 

[joeyt]

Pretty frustrated and disappointed in this

[gbandit]

Just now, joeyt said:

Pretty frustrated and disappointed in this

Indeed. We’ll obviously have to wait and see where things stand at the end of the window but selling a talent that’s admired by some huge clubs when we don’t even have a RW of any decent quality in the squad is extremely frustrating. I can understand the reasons for it, we’re obviously massively struggling to sell our weaker players. However, the whole thing feels very backwards at the moment 

[Abacus]

If he goes, I assume it's an FFP/PSR thing. Particularly if he goes to Everton, as was rumoured in the DCL thread and we end up getting him back in return.

 

I jokingly said that kind of deal might happen between clubs at their limit in the FFP thread. But anyway I don't suppose it matters too much where he ends up if the monetary outcome is the same.

 

It'd be a huge shame if he has a real chance of making it obviously, especially if it was going to be with us.

 

On the other hand, I'd console myself with this. Either, we've been watching his development while he's on loan and perhaps we don't think he fits our team or the PL.

 

Or, maybe we think he could make it with the right coaching but still have to sell him anyway for FFP reasons. In that case, at least there's the silver lining that we don't have to sell one of our established stars instead.

 

I guess we'll know which of those it is if he gets sold before or after 30 June. 

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

1 hour ago, Zero said:

 

If we need to sell Minteh before the June deadline due to PSR, and we won’t have Europe football next season, why would people got their hopes up that we could spend big on someone this summer? We are already in the PSR red zone.

Because a large proportion of outlay/loss incurred during Ashley's last summer and our First January window drops off from the 3 year rolling  period, plus the club is expected to announce multiple new sponsorships relating to training kit etc?

 

this stuff has been talked to death since the takeover, why do some still not get how it works?

[TRon]

There's only one way to look at this for me. Why am I looking at headlines about selling Minteh and not Almiron this morning?

 

Fuck that shit.

[joeyt]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

There's only one way to look at this for me. Why am I looking at headlines about selling Minteh and not Almiron this morning?

 

Fuck that shit.

 

No one wants Almiron for the money we can get for Minteh?

[TRon]

Just now, joeyt said:

 

No one wants Almiron for the money we can get for Minteh?

 

I'll take half of what we can get for Minteh. Let's not be unreasonable.

[The Prophet]

If Almiron's move to Saudi had materialised in January, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.

[The Prophet]

Just now, TRon said:

 

I'll take half of what we can get for Minteh. Let's not be unreasonable.

 

It might not be enough to balance the books though.

[Menace]

Pretty frustrating we have to sell a kid who seems to have huge talent in a position we desperately need an upgrade on, but here we are. Still, at least we don't have to sell hotels eh