gbandit Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 This seems like a crazy blow-up if it is just poker and blackjack. Surely, for it to be getting this much of an investigation there must be some fairly major signs that some players have done some seriously dodgy stuff. Whole thing is just really odd until we get more information Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 As previously discussed with Toney and Paqueta, these lads are a bit daft if it's proven they've bet on football. What leaves a sour taste is they're effectively laying in a bed made by the industry. Football and betting are now synonymous with each other. There's countless adverts, sponsorships and partnerships at any given club or advertised at any given game. So while anyone involved needs to take responsibility and accept the punishment coming their way, football needs to take a look at itself and it's relationship with the betting industry, whether it's for your average problem gambler or an addicted footballer. Of course in a game who's authorities thirst for cash knows no bounds that won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxsln Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 So what are the odds that they will cooperate and get a suspension like Toney's. Can't play games until next season but can start training this summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 As far as I’m aware this has nothing to do with the Mark Toney rumours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, CPL said: Rumours had it is that Sandro has requested for a trail by combat. KSI is his first choice. bring it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Sack him anyway for crying over nowt then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Sack him anyway for crying over nowt then. Shithousery chapter 12: crocodile tears! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 So based on the recent Italian reports, he's somewhere between a casual dark web poker player and a blubbering, addicted mess who regularly placed bets on his own team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: So based on the recent Italian reports, he's somewhere between a casual dark web poker player and a blubbering, addicted mess who regularly placed bets on his own team? The whole thing has been reported on in shambolic fashion, been damaging for everyone and if it turns out it was just some poker / blackjack then it’s been a farce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 4 hours ago, SteV said: Why? ? Because over exaggerated flouncing is what NO does best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Looks like he hasn't bet on sports, give him all the support he needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 21 minutes ago, gbandit said: The whole thing has been reported on in shambolic fashion, been damaging for everyone and if it turns out it was just some poker / blackjack then it’s been a farce Remember when his transfer was playing out. Italian footballers are covered like the Royal Family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, gbandit said: The fuck is going on in Italy? I’m sure it’s true of many places too but how is it so institutionalised? Surely there must be legal betting options they could have gone for which would have given them the same dopamine hit? It was a sad day for a poker players around the Europe when Italian players (France and Spain too) disappeared around 2010 and were only allowed to play against each other on their own sites. As for why they've been using illegal/unlicensed sites, I don't know the details about Italy's system but in Finland the government is trying to restrict deposits to foreign sites (thankfully so far pretty half-arsedly) and have put on a loss limit of -15k per year on the only "legal" government-owned bookie. IIRC Germany has some weird system where every win is heavily taxed and you can't book your losses to counter them. Some countries have banned bonuses and rakeback which makes winning from anything really hard. Young footballers are probably hitting the limits very quickly if they indeed exist in Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, gbandit said: The whole thing has been reported on in shambolic fashion, been damaging for everyone and if it turns out it was just some poker / blackjack then it’s been a farce Yeah but those clicks and endless hours chewing over a speculative carcass! Edited October 16, 2023 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Edited October 16, 2023 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Fantastic news if it ends up just being some slightly dodgy poker/blackjack. Hope he gets his name ringing out at the next home game, show we're behind him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, The Prophet said: So based on the recent Italian reports, he's somewhere between a casual dark web poker player and a blubbering, addicted mess who regularly placed bets on his own team? Italian media who started the "devastated from being forced out of the club" narrative that everyone bought. So reliable! Edited October 16, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: Fantastic news if it ends up just being some slightly dodgy poker/blackjack. Hope he gets his name ringing out at the next home game, show we're behind him Singing.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Are we trusting the Italian media now? I cant keep up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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relámpago blanco Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Are we trusting the Italian media now? I cant keep up. The UK Media wouldn't be able to get away with what the Italian Media states. They can or anyone can retweet or quote it as we didn't say it. It seems odd they comment on so much during an ongoing investigation. Would be mistrial and libel here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 45 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: So he was crying for no reason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Who knows what the truth is - I don't think we'll know for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 38 minutes ago, Erikse said: Italian media who started the "devastated from being forced out of the club" narrative that everyone bought. So reliable! Italian media who claimed Botman would never turn Milan down for Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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