Miggys First Goal Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Can we not just stick a mask on Sandro and pretend that we sign a new player in the January window who can't remove said mask? Kinda like what they did with Hogan in WWE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: For example if he has a document that says he has been diagnosed with a gambling addiction and he has shared that with Milan before they decided to sell him. And what’s the legal process for obtaining that document in multi-jurisdictional litigation? Especially in a local court system which is monumentally corrupt? Let’s say we get past that, and Milan argue “as we were told it was a medical condition, we didn’t think it would result in a ban” - you’re back into trying to persuade a court as to their state of mind at the time. How do we get round that? What if they argue they thought the system in England was different re: betting bans? Lastly, would there not be some mileage in Milan arguing that it’s up to NUFC to do adequate due diligence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: And what’s the legal process for obtaining that document in multi-jurisdictional litigation? Especially in a local court system which is monumentally corrupt? Let’s say we get past that, and Milan argue “as we were told it was a medical condition, we didn’t think it would result in a ban” - you’re back into trying to persuade a court as to their state of mind at the time. How do we get round that? What if they argue they thought the system in England was different re: betting bans? Lastly, would there not be some mileage in Milan arguing that it’s up to NUFC to do adequate due diligence? To elaborate on the above, the first port of call for the club would be speaking with Tonali to ask if Milan were aware and if they were, how were they made aware and how much did they know. From there the club will take legal advice to find out if they are in a position potentially take legal claim against them. I would guess that from there it would go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) who would hear both sides and issue a finding based on that, since it isn’t a criminal court then it will not need absolute proof, only reasonable belief when deciding the outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I don’t see it personally. I think it’s our problem to deal with. Perhaps we get some compensation from Milan but I’d be astounded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: I don’t see it personally. I think it’s our problem to deal with. Perhaps we get some compensation from Milan but I’d be astounded. We might not and there might be no case at all; however you can bet that the club will be exploring the possibility and if there is a potential case that they will throw a lot of money at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: We might not and there might be no case at all; however you can bet that the club will be exploring the possibility and if there is a potential case that they will throw a lot of money at it. I think they’d only throw money at it if there was a good prospect of success, which I don’t think there is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Fingers crossed that means he didn’t bet on his own team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Theregulars said: I think they’d only throw money at it if there was a good prospect of success, which I don’t think there is. Presuming any legal cost would exclude FFP then I can see PIF putting a lot of money in to it, you see big organisations do this as a tactic to intimidate those of a lesser financial position as part of the litigation process to come to a settlement. I would also think that PIF would rely on the advice of its expert legal team on if it has reasonable prospects of being successful or not, rather than people on an internet forum who don’t have the full facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 What's with the morons in the comments gasping to turn it into a race thing with Toney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, The Prophet said: What's with the morons in the comments gasping to turn it into a race thing with Toney. I did see that, pretty much sums up the toxicity of twitters football patter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) The race thing shouldn't be an issue if its true, the lad was 10 years old ffs. Its obviously wrong but are we really, as adults, supposed to answer for stupid mistakes we made when we were that young? Edited October 22, 2023 by Decky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I just hope whatever the ban he’s allowed to train with the team like Fagioli has been Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Presuming any legal cost would exclude FFP then I can see PIF putting a lot of money in to it, you see big organisations do this as a tactic to intimidate those of a lesser financial position as part of the litigation process to come to a settlement. I would also think that PIF would rely on the advice of its expert legal team on if it has reasonable prospects of being successful or not, rather than people on an internet forum who don’t have the full facts. It’s unfair of me to withhold any longer that I’m a lawyer. I can’t see any prospect of a successful claim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: I just hope whatever the ban he’s allowed to train with the team like Fagioli has been Agreed, would be absolutely massive for helping him over the next however many months. The Toney precedent doesn’t bode well though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Theregulars said: It’s unfair of me to withhold any longer that I’m a lawyer. I can’t see any prospect of a successful claim. After a full review of the evidence too. Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 How Staveley feels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Miggys First Goal said: Can we not just stick a mask on Sandro and pretend that we sign a new player in the January window who can't remove said mask? Kinda like what they did with Hogan in WWE. Was he stig? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, Theregulars said: It’s unfair of me to withhold any longer that I’m a lawyer. I can’t see any prospect of a successful claim. Then I must disclose I actually work at a software company that provides legal CMM software Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 hours ago, STM said: You can fuck off with ya Saudi shite and your God shite for that matter. Let’s not forget this shit post from STM…we as a fanbase are better than this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Alright Ronson man no need to post it 5 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: Alright Ronson man no need to post it 5 times. I guess that was for emphasis. As your good mate ruhrlyasleevesup said, technically he didn't specifically name any particular god that floats around these days. Not a comment I would have made, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, McDog said: I guess that was for emphasis. As your good mate ruhrlyasleevesup said, technically he didn't specifically name any particular god that floats around these days. Not a comment I would have made, mind. He’s not my mate he’s a cling on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Let’s not forget this shit post from STM…we as a fanbase are better than this! But yet we call the mackems worse than shit all of the time ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Gawalls said: But yet we call the mackems worse than shit all of the time ? Don’t get your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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