AJ9 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 At least we should theoretically have money and time to get a replacement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Maybe the club have said to his agent that if we get a strong bid we’re up for selling. So the agent is now drumming up interest so we can get rid for a decent price. Just a thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 27 minutes ago, Earp said: Just can’t get my head around why him/his agent released this statement at this point in the season It’s the ideal time, the competent teams are lining up their summer moves now and he’s letting them know he’s interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Let's be honest he only ended up here in the first place because of that impending ban , we have only got two seasons out of him and he already wants to be away . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 11 minutes ago, AJ9 said: At least we should theoretically have money and time to get a replacement We already have his replacement in Miley. We'll use the cash for Miley's replacement, hopefully a proper no nonsense DM to break up attacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewboy74 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Honestly sick of all this shit. We haven't got a chance. In Doomsday Clock terms I'm about 85 seconds from giving up on football altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazeyb Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 32 minutes ago, Kimbo said: It’s the ideal time, the competent teams are lining up their summer moves now and he’s letting them know he’s interested. You can do that quietly, talking to the Clubs, rather than spaffing shite all over the media. Suggests his agents contact book is lacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 No longer allowing the excuse his tired performances are because of the new baby. Just shite. Move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 We're not Real Madrid, players are going to leave us, especially our best ones. And the uncomfortable truth is most of our best ones join us with the hope of using uds as a stepping stone. The likelihood of us getting to the point of Real Madrid and players across the world dreaming about playing for us is about as far away as Rochdale becoming perennial Premier League champions. Annoyance or upset over a player leaving to go to a bigger club is baffling to me. Even if PIF were going both barrells behind the scenes with stadium, training ground, etc etc, the peak career period of a player is about 5 years. It's not realistic to expect players to stick around for the long haul if we're not actively competing at the sharp end on all fronts which is what elite players want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 17 hours ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: It is what it is. If we miss out on Champions League football, these are the scenarios you have to deal with. No club is necessarily immune to it. As long as we get a good fee, nothing else we can hope for really. On last summer’s evidence it doesn’t seem to matter if we make the CL or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earp Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, HawK said: We're not Real Madrid, players are going to leave us, especially our best ones. And the uncomfortable truth is most of our best ones join us with the hope of using uds as a stepping stone. The likelihood of us getting to the point of Real Madrid and players across the world dreaming about playing for us is about as far away as Rochdale becoming perennial Premier League champions. Annoyance or upset over a player leaving to go to a bigger club is baffling to me. Even if PIF were going both barrells behind the scenes with stadium, training ground, etc etc, the peak career period of a player is about 5 years. It's not realistic to expect players to stick around for the long haul if we're not actively competing at the sharp end on all fronts which is what elite players want. You would hope that Tonali was a bit different given how the club managed his betting ban and fans stuck by him. He’s even admitted he owes the club/fans big time for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Earp said: You would hope that Tonali was a bit different given how the club managed his betting ban and fans stuck by him. He’s even admitted he owes the club/fans big time for that I don't disagree, I would have hoped that too. It does make his particular agitation around a move that much more gutting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong989 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) I have to somewhat put the form down to the coaching staff. Our midfield when we aren’t able to press has been shockingly poor. Mid table teams with half the wages make far better use of the ball. It’s a been a problem for a long time now (aside from when the press is working). We’ve not been able to get any fluidity in the midfield 3 and it’s been costing us for a while. If I was Tonali I may well think my game won’t improve from here, I only have 6-7 more years, do I want to stagnate on 150k or improve and get paid double. We sold him a project and the board is a shambles. Off the pitch we are a bottom half club. The players have been poor but the same way I don’t blame England for the Southgate performances, I find it hard to blame the players…except for the ridiculous passing and lack of composure at times, but again staff needs to sort it. Edited February 7 by wong989 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 35 minutes ago, hazeyb said: You can do that quietly, talking to the Clubs, rather than spaffing shite all over the media. Suggests his agents contact book is lacking. Maybe they tried to and it went wrong. But on the other hand, why should they care? If this is all true then Tonali clearly hasn’t formed a connection with Newcastle, so what does he lose by making it public? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 He can go tbh. If he doesn't want to be here - get out. Same with everyone else. Might be why we've lost our bite. The Isak saga fractured the pot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearljam10 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Hopefully Howe puts him on the bench today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Ffs people need to grow up, Sandro is the least of our problems. Just the defensive work he does makes him an obvious starter. Fans at times, as soon as a player are rumored away they start to build this illusion that he is crap and it’s good riddance. Has he been in the best form lately, no. Is he a excellent player, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 19 hours ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: It is what it is. If we miss out on Champions League football, these are the scenarios you have to deal with. No club is necessarily immune to it. As long as we get a good fee, nothing else we can hope for really. I've no real issue with him wanting to leave in the summer as long as the fee is right, it's more his cunt agent coming out with this shite during the season and in particular during a time when we're going through a bad run of results and the mood already isn't good. Tonali is an exceptional talent on his day, he deserves to be at a club competing regularly for the top honours and we're unfortunately not there yet so in my mind he was always a player we'd enjoy for 2 or 3 seasons before cashing in. Just wish his agent would shut the fuck up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, wong989 said: I have to somewhat put the form down to the coaching staff. Our midfield when we aren’t able to press has been shockingly poor. Mid table teams with half the wages make far better use of the ball. It’s a been a problem for a long time now (aside from when the press is working). We’ve not been able to get any fluidity in the midfield 3 and it’s been costing us for a while. If I was Tonali I may well think my game won’t improve from here, I only have 6-7 more years, do I want to stagnate on 150k or improve and get paid double. We sold him a project and the board is a shambles. Off the pitch we are a bottom half club. The players have been poor but the same way I don’t blame England for the Southgate performances, I find it hard to blame the players…except for the ridiculous passing and lack of composure at times, but again staff needs to sort it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Of the interested clubs, surely City is the most likely? If he wants grantees Champions League football and the chance to win trophies regularly, it rules Chelsea out. Always thought he might want to move back to Italy, but unless they chuck some players into the mix, Juve can't afford him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Let's be honest it's nothing to do with Champions League, wanting to win things or playing for the best team possible, it's a cattle auction on who can line the pockets faster and quicker and we can't match the "big boys" on wages that's the bottom line. It's a short career, you can't blame the players for wanting to make as much as they can to set themselves up for the rest of their lives. Before we vilify and ostracise Sandro, let's see what happens over the summer, also, let's not rewrite history, he was instrumental in getting us into the Champions League last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewboy74 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Of the interested clubs, surely City is the most likely? If he wants grantees Champions League football and the chance to win trophies regularly, it rules Chelsea out. Always thought he might want to move back to Italy, but unless they chuck some players into the mix, Juve can't afford him. My mate who's pretty knowledgeable about Italian football reckons Juventus are minted. If he goes, he can fuck off back there, the baby toothed, Wetherspoon regular tossa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On a side note it's an absolute load of bollocks when a player says " they want to play in the champions league ". They will go to any club that pays them the most money regardless of if they are in the champions league . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Earp said: You would hope that Tonali was a bit different given how the club managed his betting ban and fans stuck by him. He’s even admitted he owes the club/fans big time for that I don’t begrudge him wanting a move away. He's been a good to excellent player for us the past two seasons, never doubted his work rate or commitment. I don’t think he owes us anything in that sense. I do think he, of all people, owes us the courtesy of not pulling an Isak, though, given how the club and fans stood by him that first year. Gonna be really fucked off if he downs tools and acts like a whiny punk to force a move away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 11 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: On a side note it's an absolute load of bollocks when a player says " they want to play in the champions league ". They will go to any club that pays them the most money regardless of if they are in the champions league . Exactly this. When players come out with "I want to win trophies", I just shout "piss off man, it's for the wonga". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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