Fak Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Holloway said: His passing has deteriorated since he started wearing those poncey geps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Froggy said: The last decent player we got off you was Andy Cole over 20 years ago. Since then we've given you stalwarts like Gillespsie, Smith, Butt, Simpson and Obertan who made 500+ appearances combined for you. You owe us a good one. and a past-it ronnie johnsen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, huss9 said: and a past-it ronnie johnsen He'd been at Villa before us iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 13 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said: At Brescia, AC Milan and Italy he doesn't play as DM... that said, Tonali, Dimarco, and Donnarumma (and partly Calafiori) are the only talents we have. The rest of the team is horrible and is also led by a coach who isn't exactly the best. Barella was God two years ago, today he's a ghost... and even Bastoni is in decline. Yesterday I watched the game at home with three friends and at halftime, for fun, we looked at the Italian national team rosters from 1982 to today... it was disheartening to see what a team we had in 1982, 1990, 1994, 1998, and 2002. It's unreal that we won in 2006 with a team whose good players had already given their best years before. From 2010 to today ALL the Italian national teams have been awful. Thanks for that, although it doesn't really answer the question. I guess what you are saying is that by your current standards he's a very accomplished footballer. Interestingly, I don't really think his natural position is DM either. He looks more suited to an all action midfielder who can attack the box and unleash that right foot. I suppose the question marks would be over his on ball technique which is below someone like Bruno Guimeres for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 15 hours ago, Curva Sud Milano said: Wow..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 15 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Player of questionable commitment gets commitment questioned controversy Negative poster posts negative comment controversy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curva Sud Milano Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 53 minutes ago, TRon said: Thanks for that, although it doesn't really answer the question. I guess what you are saying is that by your current standards he's a very accomplished footballer. Interestingly, I don't really think his natural position is DM either. He looks more suited to an all action midfielder who can attack the box and unleash that right foot. I suppose the question marks would be over his on ball technique which is below someone like Bruno Guimeres for example. Sorry, I'll try to answer you better... will an Italian in 2045 remember Tonali? No... we'll remember Totti, Maldini, Pirlo, etc..these are players who could play for any team and in any era. Tonali isn't and never will be part of this group, but in an era lacking in real talents and in which Haaland is considered a great striker, then Tonali could also be considered an important player for many teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curva Sud Milano Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, TRon said: I suppose the question marks would be over his on ball technique which is below someone like Bruno Guimeres for example. Yes, but here we enter the realm of personal and subjective preferences regarding the qualities of a good midfielder... an example: for age reasons (I'm 57 years old) I was fortunate enough to witness the best period of Italian football first and European football afterward; do you know who is absolutely the best midfielder I've ever seen and light years away from all the others? Lothar Matthäus... he didn't have the superfine technique of a Xavi or many others but he was simply an UNSTOPPABLE CM. Was he technically a beast? Not at all but if I had to clone someone between Iniesta, Xavi, Pirlo, or Zidane too, I have no doubts about choosing the German. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I’d like to see Sandro alongside a more defensive midfielder. Particularly away from home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 hours ago, Froggy said: The last decent player we got off you was Andy Cole over 20 years ago. Since then we've given you stalwarts like Gillespsie, Smith, Butt, Simpson and Obertan who made 500+ appearances combined for you. You owe us a good one. Lent us Rossi as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, janpawel said: For the last 2/3 years our top 3 players have been Isak, Bruno, Tonali Tonali was a top player last season. Either side of that he’s been very inconsistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 26 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: I’d like to see Sandro alongside a more defensive midfielder. Particularly away from home. Prob be Elliot Anderson @ Old Trafford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Do any teams play with a sitting midfielder now? Guess it’s difficult if you value pressing high up the field. Probably easier if you dominate possession like with Rodri. Not since this fella. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag3.14 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 hours ago, Doc said: Not since this fella. What a game that was, 4-0 up, Kenny Wharton sitting on the ball, Gazza doing keepy uppys just outside the 18 yard box - proper shithousery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 9 hours ago, Curva Sud Milano said: Sorry, I'll try to answer you better... will an Italian in 2045 remember Tonali? No... we'll remember Totti, Maldini, Pirlo, etc..these are players who could play for any team and in any era. Tonali isn't and never will be part of this group, but in an era lacking in real talents and in which Haaland is considered a great striker, then Tonali could also be considered an important player for many teams. Thats a fair comment unless Italy go on and win the WC this year lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 hours ago, Zero said: Thats a fair comment unless Italy go on and win the WC this year lol Italy are due to win the world cup in 2030 They've almost got this crazy record of winning every 24 years 1934 1958 - this is the anomaly as they DNQ 1982 2006 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, kingxlnc said: Italy are due to win the world cup in 2030 They've almost got this crazy record of winning every 24 years 1934 1958 - this is the anomaly as they DNQ 1982 2006 They also won in '38 didnt they ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I don't even view him as our player anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Interesting Geordie Journos video just gone up on their Youtube channel. Liam Kennedy doubles down on his Tonali gentleman's agreement story and takes a swipe at other journos (Luke Edwards, without naming him) being used as 'pawns' by the club to try and discredit stories that he knows are true. Think it's pretty obvious Luke Edwards is just a club mouthpiece and nothing he writes is worth the paper it's written on, but interesting to see another journo basically say the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Worrying that they seem to think what Tonali thinks and the club thinks could be different with regards said agreement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Marco Materazzi saying he thinks Sandro should stay at Newcastle and build a legacy, with fan's that have stuck by him and believed in him - Sandro should listen to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 8 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Interesting Geordie Journos video just gone up on their Youtube channel. Liam Kennedy doubles down on his Tonali gentleman's agreement story and takes a swipe at other journos (Luke Edwards, without naming him) being used as 'pawns' by the club to try and discredit stories that he knows are true. Think it's pretty obvious Luke Edwards is just a club mouthpiece and nothing he writes is worth the paper it's written on, but interesting to see another journo basically say the same. These are two gormless average AF fans. They know no more or less than you and I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I hope his next shit is a hedgehog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 28 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Interesting Geordie Journos video just gone up on their Youtube channel. Liam Kennedy doubles down on his Tonali gentleman's agreement story and takes a swipe at other journos (Luke Edwards, without naming him) being used as 'pawns' by the club to try and discredit stories that he knows are true. Think it's pretty obvious Luke Edwards is just a club mouthpiece and nothing he writes is worth the paper it's written on, but interesting to see another journo basically say the same. Liam Kennedy is utterly clueless himself tbh. Knows about as much as we do. I’d back Edwards over him every day of the week, and that’s saying something! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 24 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Liam Kennedy is utterly clueless himself tbh. Knows about as much as we do. I’d back Edwards over him every day of the week, and that’s saying something! Seems to be one of the few Journos that doesn’t have an agenda and speaks the truth. The others like Edward’s and Hope seem very snakey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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