r0cafella Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Still pretty confident we'll shift Minteh before the Sunday deadline. It feels to have all gone a bit quiet on this one though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Yeah at what point do we start to worry? Pretty embarrassing if we can't shift anyone, while these other clubs are trading for fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Starting to find it a little odd that we can’t sell anybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 21 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said: Yeah at what point do we start to worry? Pretty embarrassing if we can't shift anyone, while these other clubs are trading for fun. I vote for never. Wasted energy better just to cross bridges when we come to them. The season will start we’ll have new signings in the squad, and departures, let’s see how we get on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I vote for never. Wasted energy better just to cross bridges when we come to them. The season will start we’ll have new signings in the squad, and departures, let’s see how we get on. I think he means regarding a points deduction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Wonder if having no Ashworth/sporting director is making it harder for us to sell players (other than most of them not being wanted by anyone). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Wonder if having no Ashworth/sporting director is making it harder for us to sell players (other than most of them not being wanted by anyone). I reckon it must be. No one else who has been under the cosh seems to be struggling as much as us - then again could all change by Sunday if we get one or two out of the door for a decent amount. It definitely can't be helping us though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Wonder if having no Ashworth/sporting director is making it harder for us to sell players (other than most of them not being wanted by anyone). I think it's more the players we are trying to sell don't have much value and are on decent wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Wonder if having no Ashworth/sporting director is making it harder for us to sell players (other than most of them not being wanted by anyone). I don’t think so, I think the profile of our squad which is older established players who are generally below average just aren’t in demand our Crown Jewels are also very expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Lowers the deficit if there is one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Just now, PauloGeordio said: Lowers the deficit if there is one! Leading sports betting brand that I'd bet (geddit ?) none of us had heard of until this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 8 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Lowers the deficit if there is one! So what we've done there is likely ask for an upfront payment for a long term agreement. This might have been a last minute move, in order to get some funds in and avoid any FFP punishment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, madras said: Leading sports betting brand that I'd bet (geddit ?) none of us had heard of until this morning. It's fucking MGM though - the original casino betting sharks.. Never seen the annoying Chris Rick ads? https://youtu.be/IxEGy60Wcuc?si=L4HDWJ9hL0B-g726 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, STM said: So what we've done there is likely ask for an upfront payment for a long term agreement. This might have been a last minute move, in order to get some funds in and avoid any FFP punishment. Always felt the club would have several options to trigger if needs must rather than hit panic stations. Think we are too well run now (as hard as that may be to take in after the Cashley years ) for the books not to have been balanced. Edited June 28, 2024 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, STM said: So what we've done there is likely ask for an upfront payment for a long term agreement. This might have been a last minute move, in order to get some funds in and avoid any FFP punishment. Not sure if we can recognise much of the revenue for this year, unless we got some sort of startup fee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Just now, PauloGeordio said: Always felt the club would have several options to trigger if needs must rather than hit panic stations. Think we are too well run now (as hard as that may be to take in after the Cashley years ) for the books not to be balanced. Even if the payment is upfront it will end up spread over the length of the deal in the books. Same as players transfer fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Everton trying to get talks back on track allegedly for Minteh / DCL deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 1 minute ago, Andy84 said: Everton trying to get talks back on track allegedly for Minteh / DCL deal Seconds out! Round 2 🔔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 I wonder what sort of points deduction we would face if we could demonstrate pre agreed deals for players to go to Saudi when their window opens mid July? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 23 minutes ago, madras said: Leading sports betting brand that I'd bet (geddit ?) none of us had heard of until this morning. BetMGM advertise quite a lot....Chris Rock read their adds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 10 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Even if the payment is upfront it will end up spread over the length of the deal in the books. Same as players transfer fees. Would it ? Transfer fees incoming g are one lump, outgoings are spread aren't they ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Just now, gjohnson said: BetMGM advertise quite a lot....Chris Rock read their adds Passed me by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 1 minute ago, madras said: Would it ? Transfer fees incoming g are one lump, outgoings are spread aren't they ? Yes because the income goes in the period it relates to. If it’s £10m contract over 10 years then you show £1m income per year. If you sell a player then it’s a single transaction, so you show the full income when the deal is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Just now, madras said: Would it ? Transfer fees incoming g are one lump, outgoings are spread aren't they ? It’s just how the accounting works, a 5 year sponsorship deal the income would be split over 5 years regardless of when the bill was paid. Incoming transfer fees come are all at once as there’s no further relationship- the player has gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 I'm more perplexed as to why anyone would be surprised at our lack of trade than perplexed at the lack of trade itself. Our most coveted players are Bruno, Gordon and Isak and they are rightly not for sale at anything less than obscene prices which almost no one is in a position to pay. Who's next? Botman, Willock, Lascelles, Targett - all injured. Joelinton just signed a new contract. Tonali/Tino/Barnes have been here five minutes. Unless we're open to offloading crucial squad players like Pope, Schar, Burn and Murphy for negligible fees then we are left with the same names that have cropped up over and over again: Trippier - with England, 30+, big wages Almiron - with Paraguay, 30+, big wages Dubravka - with Slovakia, 35+ Wilson - a crock, 30+, big wages Longstaff - not a great player Anderson - jury still out Minteh - the only wild card Meanwhile everyone in England is up against it due to PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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