Conjo Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 16 hours ago, Rocker said: I don't know if it's because I'm approaching 40 (which is mental, considering I've been on this forum since I was 17), but I don't crave a transfer rumour or links etc anymore. I still get excited when we sign a player and I'll do all the research into his stats etc, but I dismiss all the elongated preamble of the pre-season, especially the early part of pre-season. Saying that, I still log in everyday. Similar situation here. If the joined date on my profile is correct, I'll have been on here for more than half of my life in 2 years, which is also when I turn 40 Guess that's part of the appeal to this place that there are many in the same boat rather than discussing Newcastle/football/life with fedora tipping redditors or randoms/bots on twitter. I find myself caring a lot less about transfers now than before too, but I think a big part of it is that I have much more faith in the people at the club doing the right thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 (edited) 22 hours ago, r0cafella said: He’s being linked a lot, this isn’t the first rodeo. By that logic Bruno is moving to Man City, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Arsenal and Man Utd. Poor guys legs will be fucked. Edited July 10, 2024 by Joe1984 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 9 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: I for one think £30m for a 27 year old backup/plan b striker who has a 1 in 2 record under a good manager is actually a really good deal (if he stayed fit) DCL is a pretty good match to Callum Wilson when we bought him. Same age, very similar stats, very similar injury, quite similar build with DCL taller. A striker who's a #9 and doesn't really do any of the #10 stuff. Decent goalscoring record in a mostly failing team. Wilson had just been relegated in Howe's Bournemouth. Wilson never greatly overperformed xG when at Bournemouth. He's way more clinical now and full credit to him for it. Wilson when bought was simply someone who'd done average-y in a not-so-good team, which means there was upside potential when placed in a better environment, even if it was initially just quite good players (ASM etc.) managed by that fat lazy lump. If we paid 20M for Callum Wilson four years ago and DCL is now 25M or so, that makes him a moneyball type signing. I don't care about DCL wearing a skirt etc. but it sounds like Howe is genuinely hard on players, and the main question would be is DCL up for working as hard as Howe demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 25 minutes ago, NE27 said: Newcastle people carriers leaving training ground this morning. Might mean something, probably means fuck all J-David landing post Canuck Copa knockout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 35 minutes ago, et tu brute said: I thought it was direct from Amanda Staveley's social media Not sure, I’ve only seen it on that Will twitter and Joel Bland twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 Based on ability, would I be comfortable with Calvert-Lewin being our main forward if Isak was in it for a period of time through injury? Absolutely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Not sure, I’ve only seen it on that Will twitter and Joel Bland twitter. Pearson had it displayed on his YouTube Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Based on ability, would I be comfortable with Calvert-Lewin being our main forward if Isak was in it for a period of time through injury? Absolutely not. It you want someone better than DCL who is happy to be backup, you either have to pay a fortune in wages or get lucky/good with your scouting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, SteV said: It you want someone better than DCL who is happy to be backup, you either have to pay a fortune in wages or get lucky/good with your scouting. Calvert-Lewin is going to cost a fortune in wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 If Wilson is going, that's DCL's money right there. Sorry to go back to Bowen yet again and the "low risk" aspect, but if we don't do well this season, the bigger risk is we lose some combination of Bruno, Isak, and Gordon next summer. Oh, and Howe himself if the big bosses in Saudi are unhappy. The people directly managing the club are unlikely to have the final say. Eight points off Villa, who finished the season W3 D4 L3 with a minus goal difference in those 10 games, and now face CL No Poch at Chelsea, who were improving No Klopp at Liverpool. Maybe no Salah too. ten Hag retained in spite of whatever pathetic goal difference they managed Hang onto Bruno and Isak and strengthen where we need to and we should be back up there. With Bowen, genuine competition for Pope, and reasonable injury luck, I think we'd be up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Stottie said: If Wilson is going, that's DCL's money right there. Sorry to go back to Bowen yet again and the "low risk" aspect, but if we don't do well this season, the bigger risk is we lose some combination of Bruno, Isak, and Gordon next summer. Oh, and Howe himself if the big bosses in Saudi are unhappy. The people directly managing the club are unlikely to have the final say. Eight points off Villa, who finished the season W3 D4 L3 with a minus goal difference in those 10 games, and now face CL No Poch at Chelsea, who were improving No Klopp at Liverpool. Maybe no Salah too. ten Hag retained in spite of whatever pathetic goal difference they managed Hang onto Bruno and Isak and strengthen where we need to and we should be back up there. With Bowen, genuine competition for Pope, and reasonable injury luck, I think we'd be up there. Found the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 We'll sign Calvert-lewin IMO. Howe has wanted him since his first January window. A deal will be done at £20m ish late in the window, or around half of that in Jan i reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 Absolutely don't want calvin llewelyn bowne or whatever his name is. Just because I hate double barrel names, just pick the better sounding one ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 7 minutes ago, Stottie said: If Wilson is going, that's DCL's money right there. Sorry to go back to Bowen yet again and the "low risk" aspect, but if we don't do well this season, the bigger risk is we lose some combination of Bruno, Isak, and Gordon next summer. Oh, and Howe himself if the big bosses in Saudi are unhappy. The people directly managing the club are unlikely to have the final say. Eight points off Villa, who finished the season W3 D4 L3 with a minus goal difference in those 10 games, and now face CL No Poch at Chelsea, who were improving No Klopp at Liverpool. Maybe no Salah too. ten Hag retained in spite of whatever pathetic goal difference they managed Hang onto Bruno and Isak and strengthen where we need to and we should be back up there. With Bowen, genuine competition for Pope, and reasonable injury luck, I think we'd be up there. I think we'd up there with the same squad and less injuries TBH, but obviously we will do a lot more than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 1 hour ago, Conjo said: Similar situation here. If the joined date on my profile is correct, I'll have been on here for more than half of my life in 2 years, which is also when I turn 40 Guess that's part of the appeal to this place that there are many in the same boat rather than discussing Newcastle/football/life with fedora tipping redditors or randoms/bots on twitter. I find myself caring a lot less about transfers now than before too, but I think a big part of it is that I have much more faith in the people at the club doing the right thing. This sooooo this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 18 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Calvert-Lewin is going to cost a fortune in wages. So finding someone better is going to cost even more. Unless you’re an established CL team, finding a quality backup striker to an elite level one, is one of the most difficult positions to fill. Spurs struggled for years to find any kind of backup to Kane, Levy probably absolutely fumed at the amount they wasted trying. Eventually they kinda solved it with Son, although that might have been more luck than judgement as not sure that was actually the reason he was bought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 Thought we have a deal accepted with Everton for a DCL-Minteh swap, only for it to fall through when we didn't accept DCL's wage demands. Can't see if anything will change if so. He is likely waiting out his contract before securing a lucrative move somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 1 minute ago, LRD said: Thought we have a deal accepted with Everton for a DCL-Minteh swap, only for it to fall through when we didn't accept DCL's wage demands. Can't see if anything will change if so. He is likely waiting out his contract before securing a lucrative move somewhere. That’s exactly what happened, people are speculating that if Wilson were to be sold it would free up wages to bring in DCL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 16 minutes ago, Pixelphish said: Found the problem. Bowen's had 30 starts for seven straight seasons! Availability is the best ability yada yada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 24 minutes ago, Stottie said: If Wilson is going, that's DCL's money right there. Sorry to go back to Bowen yet again and the "low risk" aspect, but if we don't do well this season, the bigger risk is we lose some combination of Bruno, Isak, and Gordon next summer. Oh, and Howe himself if the big bosses in Saudi are unhappy. The people directly managing the club are unlikely to have the final say. Eight points off Villa, who finished the season W3 D4 L3 with a minus goal difference in those 10 games, and now face CL No Poch at Chelsea, who were improving No Klopp at Liverpool. Maybe no Salah too. ten Hag retained in spite of whatever pathetic goal difference they managed Hang onto Bruno and Isak and strengthen where we need to and we should be back up there. With Bowen, genuine competition for Pope, and reasonable injury luck, I think we'd be up there. I don’t think Wilson will go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 People mentioning a single good period for DCL should remember Cisse had an absolutely insane season once then never again, Miggy was tremendous for one year. Mo Diame became Michael Essien for one year under Rafa. I could name 20 more just for Newcastle. The most likely outcome is the performance levels from the 9 out of 10 other seasons. (also why Bowen is so highly rated, he’s delivered every season) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 20 minutes ago, Stal said: Absolutely don't want calvin llewelyn bowne or whatever his name is. Just because I hate double barrel names, just pick the better sounding one ffs. In fairness Dominic Calvert & Dominic Lewin both sound shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 21 minutes ago, SteV said: So finding someone better is going to cost even more. Unless you’re an established CL team, finding a quality backup striker to an elite level one, is one of the most difficult positions to fill. Spurs struggled for years to find any kind of backup to Kane, Levy probably absolutely fumed at the amount they wasted trying. Eventually they kinda solved it with Son, although that might have been more luck than judgement as not sure that was actually the reason he was bought. Isn’t that why we have brought Paul Mitchell in? As part of the excitement in him getting the role is the amount of players he has brought in to clubs from abroad that have been successful. So I don’t see why we are so limited on option that we have to see that anything better than Calvert-Lewin is unachievable. Whilst you can’t guarantee success with a replacement for Wilson that also goes for DCL, who you would think would have the attributes to star in a team playing the kind of football that Dyche does. The other issue is that Wilson can slot in to the team when Isak is out and we can still play the same type of football, yet we can’t do this with DCL as his attributes are completely different, meaning we will have to change the way we play to accommodate him, which is fine in the last 20 minutes of a game when chasing against a team sat deep but you wouldn’t want to have to play like that for a number of weeks or months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Matt1892 said: The other issue is that Wilson can slot in to the team when Isak is out and we can still play the same type of football, yet we can’t do this with DCL as his attributes are completely different, meaning we will have to change the way we play to accommodate him, which is fine in the last 20 minutes of a game when chasing against a team sat deep but you wouldn’t want to have to play like that for a number of weeks or months. we absolutely can’t play the same football with Wilson as we do with Isak. Wilson’s overall game was woeful last year. His performance at home to Dortmund (even if we discount missing an absolute sitter) was horrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: Not sure, I’ve only seen it on that Will twitter and Joel Bland twitter. About as reliable a predictor as Clinton Baptiste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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