NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Guest]

1 hour ago, gbandit said:

Winter is coming

Children of the forest

White Walkers

White players

A child from Forest

 

Are we signing an academy prospect from Forest, a white player to be specific?

Lots of wood in a forest…

 

WOOD !!!

[Pixelphish]

Toney doesn't fit the no bellends ethos if we're still operating to that.

[Mike]

Imagine being too much of a bellend for Arsenal.

[Nucasol]

Just now, Mike said:

Imagine being too much of a bellend for Arsenal.

Incredible isn’t it? A team with the PL’s biggest bellend of a manager, Kai Havertz and Arsenal Fans TV consider you a liability. I’d be broken.

[toon25]

2 minutes ago, Mike said:

Imagine being too much of a bellend for Arsenal.

 

Anyone signing for them needs to be slightly less of a bellend than fucking Lego hair

[Whitley mag]

Delighted Mitchell has come in and is overseeing the window, if he has paused deals to re-evaluate then he’s doing his job in my opinion.

 

Last summer was ill thought out strategically and left us way short, Eddie might be a great coach but with PSR concerns the transfer approach needs mapped out to take us to the next level and that should be Mitchell’s final say going forward.

[Holloway]

eh Toney not the answer this far on,you'd think. Some young, dynamic relatively unknown fucker would do me 

[LFEE]

1 hour ago, Nucasol said:

“Fuck Brentford” hardly screams professionalism.

That and after they supported him throughout his entire ban his first interview is all about him wanting to leave for a big club. 
 

Hope we stay well clear and judging by Fee/Wages/Age and need to start most games I think we’ll be safe.

[Coffee_Johnny]

2 hours ago, Dokko said:

Thiaw.

Nico Gonzalez.

Ivan Toney.

 

Would be a 8/10 window, just what we need. 

Toney wouldn’t sign up to play second fiddle for his club (as well as his country).

[tarie4]

36 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Delighted Mitchell has come in and is overseeing the window, if he has paused deals to re-evaluate then he’s doing his job in my opinion.

 

Last summer was ill thought out strategically and left us way short, Eddie might be a great coach but with PSR concerns the transfer approach needs mapped out to take us to the next level and that should be Mitchell’s final say going forward.

That's an intriguing perspective. In your opinion, what actions could have been taken differently to improve the outcome? Additionally, it's worth noting that last summer, Dan Ashworth held the position of Director of Football, not Eddie. Therefore, I'm not entirely clear on how Eddie's involvement is relevant in this context.

[gbandit]

<Insert Whitley Mag hates Howe here>

[rebelrouser]

3 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

That's an intriguing perspective. In your opinion, what actions could have been taken differently to improve the outcome? Additionally, it's worth noting that last summer, Dan Ashworth held the position of Director of Football, not Eddie. Therefore, I'm not entirely clear on how Eddie's involvement is relevant in this context.

Sandro Tonali (failure because of the ban), Barnes (needed lw backup after ASM left), Livramento (needed), Minteh (big profit and needed), Lewis Hall (needed when Targett failed to recover). Wasn't a terrible window considering Ashworth's double dealing. 

[Whitley mag]

5 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

That's an intriguing perspective. In your opinion, what actions could have been taken differently to improve the outcome? Additionally, it's worth noting that last summer, Dan Ashworth held the position of Director of Football, not Eddie. Therefore, I'm not entirely clear on how Eddie's involvement is relevant in this context.

It’s well documented Howe had final say on transfers, yes their should be a committee, but the SD should have final say in my book as the farce at the start of this window showed.

[The Prophet]

Howe will probably continue to have final say on transfers. It's fairly common practice.

 

It hasn’t really steered us wrong to date.

[tarie4]

Just now, Whitley mag said:

It’s well documented Howe had final say on transfers, yes their should be a committee, but the SD should have final say in my book as the farce at the start of this window showed.

I believe this may not be entirely accurate. Staveley stated that the Chairman of the board has the final say on all transfers. I think you may be mistaken in your assumptions. As I mentioned, Ashworth was the Director of Football. He was responsible for developing the club's strategy. Therefore, if you consider last summer to have been a strategic failure, the responsibility lies solely with Ashworth. However, I am curious to hear your perspective on why you believe last summer was a disaster. What do you think they could have done better?

[KingArthur]

1 hour ago, andycap said:

It's not a need though is it? It's more a choose to sell. 

Well it pretty much is. We are not going to the season with too big squad. 

[tarie4]

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Howe will probably continue to have final say on transfers. It's fairly common practice.

 

It hasn’t really steered us wrong to date.

Eddie has never had the final say on transfers. If you watch the Antony Gordon purchase on the "We are Newcastle" series, you will clearly see this.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Wasn't it even stated by Ashworth himself that they had a traffic light system in place?

 

Mitchell shouldn't have final say on transfers, nor should Howe. It should be as democratic a process as possible between relevant people all providing their expertise.

[The Prophet]

2 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Eddie has never had the final say on transfers. If you watch the Antony Gordon purchase on the "We are Newcastle" series, you will clearly see this.

 

Ashworth confirmed it. He more or less said there's no point in signing a player the manager isn't interested in.

 

By all accounts we operate via a transfer committee, which Howe is part of. Blaming him for apparent failures and not crediting him for any of the success is incredibly agenda driven.

[Whitley mag]

10 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

I believe this may not be entirely accurate. Staveley stated that the Chairman of the board has the final say on all transfers. I think you may be mistaken in your assumptions. As I mentioned, Ashworth was the Director of Football. He was responsible for developing the club's strategy. Therefore, if you consider last summer to have been a strategic failure, the responsibility lies solely with Ashworth. However, I am curious to hear your perspective on why you believe last summer was a disaster. What do you think they could have done better?

Clearly the financial side would be signed off by PIF, but the final selection finance permitting was down to Howe that’s on record.

 

It’s been widely reported that Ashworth was unsatisfied with the scope of his job and he didn’t have the responsibility he first thought, does that really suggest he was behind the strategy, I believe outside of the financial problems for Staveley, the power lines were part of the problem and one of the reasons their exit was hastened.

 

Last summer I’d have targeted a pacy CB and right sided forward, Barnes was an expensive backup in a position we’d just spent 40 million on in January.
 

 

 

 

Edited July 25, 2024 by Whitley mag

[Joey47]

1 hour ago, TBG said:

Dwight McNeill continues to be discussed internally in my head.

When he was at Burnley he was one of my dream signings during the Bruce era  how far we’ve come… I’ve definitely become a bit spoilt and need to remind my self that back then all I wished for was a team that I could just enjoy watching. We have that now with Eddie Howe. 

[tarie4]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

Ashworth confirmed it. He more or less said there's no point in signing a player the manager isn't interested in.

 

By all accounts we operate via a transfer committee, which Howe is part of. Blaming him for apparent failures and not crediting him for any of the success is incredibly agenda driven.

Indeed. However, if the manager desires a player whom the board disapproves of, what course of action should be taken? Therefore, it is essential to have an individual with the authority to make the final decision, that individual is not Eddie.

[Sibierski]

2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

 

 

Last summer I’d have targeted a pacy CB and right sided forward, Barnes was an expensive backup in a position we’d just spent 40 million on in January.
 

 

 

 

 

 

I think Barnes transfer was just a case of, player on list is available, we have money to spend, shall we do it? Yea.

 

Hindsight, probably would be don't make that deal, don't have PSR pressures come end of season, and not be panic stations. But I can only assume club looked at RW and felt Almiron/Murphy were good and didn't see Anderson as a LW, so option there was one of Joe/Willock and so a gap was available.

 

I guess with that, it's probably made the club evaluate what they view the squad as moving forward because it wasn't really a must do deal and we've probably paid a price for it but needing to move on Minteh who could be good, and the dodgy deal with Forest to lose Anderson.

[cubaricho]

The Barnes deal would look much different to the majority of people if he had been fit for the season rather than injured for most of it. We'd arguably have more points/had gone further in the CL with him around the whole time.

[tarie4]

20 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Clearly the financial side would be signed off by PIF, but the final selection finance permitting was down to Howe that’s on record.

 

It’s been widely reported that Ashworth was unsatisfied with the scope of his job and he didn’t have the responsibility he first thought, does that really suggest he was behind the strategy, I believe outside of the financial problems for Staveley, the power lines were part of the problem and one of the reasons their exit was hastened.

 

Last summer I’d have targeted a pacy CB and right sided forward, Barnes was an expensive backup in a position we’d just spent 40 million on in January.
 

 

 

 

 

You are once again basing your claims on "widely reported" information.

 

Newcastle United operates based on contracts, and these contracts typically include detailed job descriptions. Therefore, it is inaccurate to claim that he did not have the responsibilities he initially believed he had. His contract would have clearly outlined his job scope and expectations. Manchester United offered him a higher salary and improved terms, and like many individuals in such situations, he decided to make the move. It is also worth noting that these reports emerged after he was placed on gardening leave, which raises questions about their credibility.

 

Regarding transfers, we acquired Barnes as a left winger to replace Allan, who was sold. If we were to bring in a right forward, either Murphy or Almiron would likely have had to depart. As there were  no buyers for them we didnt buy a right forward. As for the center back position, we extended Paul's contract by a year to meet the requirements for European football. So we were overly stacked in that department.

 

 

Edited July 25, 2024 by tarie4
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