Toon1892 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Just now, Upthemags said: Mate, if you think shopping Anthony Gordon for a desperate eleventh hour sale isn't the mark of poor planning, manifest.... I don't really know what else to say Are we denying now that we played fast and loose with PSR deadlines and it almost was catastrophic? It’s a toss up between spending a lot of money on players (which we have done) and then having to flog one last minute. Or reigning in the spending and not having as a good a squad as we do now. What would you have preferred? The real issue was Bruno’s release clause, they didn’t want to sell prized assets if Bruno was to go too. Therefore they had to wait until the last week. That isn’t their fault. Now that release clause has expired we’re in a much better position. You have to look at the full picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1892 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, Upthemags said: Mate, if you think shopping Anthony Gordon for a desperate eleventh hour sale isn't the mark of poor planning, manifest.... I don't really know what else to say Are we denying now that we played fast and loose with PSR deadlines and it almost was catastrophic? The Gordon ‘flogging’ was paper talk. It was always going to be Minteh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 1 hour ago, geordie_b said: If we didnt have the 'PSR nonsense' Minteh still wouldnt be at the club as we would have signed multiple players far better than him If it wasn't for the PSR nonsense, I'm sure we'd have far rather sold Miggy or Willson rather than Minteh. I'd like to think we'd have sold Longstaff and Trippier as well, although I'm not sure Howe would agree with that. I hope you're right about signing far better players, I think that will get rid of the bitter taste far sooner than anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 I'd say 60+ million for isak and tonali in newcastles history is mega signings mind. Maybe not other clubs but to us yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 There’s not a side in the world that Isak wouldn’t improve. He’s a top 3 striker in world football in my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 fwiw, Isak was the most expensive player ever signed by a non-Sky 6 club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 1 minute ago, gbandit said: There’s not a side in the world that Isak wouldn’t improve. He’s a top 3 striker in world football in my opinion Yes, easy to say that now, but this wasn't the conversation back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 The alternatives would have been to not bother trying to compete above mid-table and taking a 10point deduction instead of selling a player we'd likely have loaned out this season. People moaning about the current situation could have filled their boots with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Would anyone try for ekitike again? It would be a risk with his attitude but he'd be quite cheap you'd think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Just now, Stottie said: fwiw, Isak was the most expensive player ever signed by a non-Sky 6 club. 3 minutes ago, andycap said: I'd say 60+ million for isak and tonali in newcastles history is mega signings mind. Maybe not other clubs but to us yes. Yes, but we were quickly told by all and sundry that we overpaid. To be fair to our recruitment team, if they like a player they back their judgement and fork out, regardless of what the general opinion is. It was the same with Gordon too. I remember it being referred to as a Bournemouth signing on here, and it was seen as an overpayment when we spent £40 million. Similar to what people have said about some of the players we've been linked to this summer. But then their values have all shot up, once they come in and over perform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, andycap said: Would anyone try for ekitike again? It would be a risk with his attitude but he'd be quite cheap you'd think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, andycap said: Would anyone try for ekitike again? It would be a risk with his attitude but he'd be quite cheap you'd think. Not for me now. He's done nothing to warrant any interest plus he seems like a scumbag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Other unreliable accounts reporting the Madueke stuff, granted they're probably just pouncing on the Football Insider story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Toon1892 said: Planned poorly!? There is no golden bullet. Buying unproven youth to sell on to make profit was the plan. It’s a very good plan to keep the proven talent. Without that plan Bruno/ Gordon/ Isak would have been sold. Sorry but it is anything but poor planning. What did you want the club to do? Not buy Barnes to sit on the bench for starters, something he's going to be doing again unless we sell Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 40 minutes ago, andycap said: Would anyone try for ekitike again? It would be a risk with his attitude but he'd be quite cheap you'd think. Didn't he sign for a team in Jormany? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, Away Toon said: Not buy Barnes to sit on the bench for starters, something he's going to be doing again unless we sell Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 3 hours ago, KaKa said: We really haven't made any mega signings and don't need to. Just need to get a player the manager rates and believes will excel in our setup. Same as we have been doing already, and having success with. Counterpoint: Sign Vini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, Away Toon said: Not buy Barnes to sit on the bench for starters, something he's going to be doing again unless we sell Gordon. If we don't get a decent RW then he'll probably start plenty of games. Even if we do get a new RW having someone of Barnes' quality to come off the bench is very important as well. All part of building a competent squad. Who even knows what will happen, for all we know Barnes could be keeping Gordon out of the team at some point this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 43 minutes ago, andycap said: Would anyone try for ekitike again? It would be a risk with his attitude but he'd be quite cheap you'd think. Did he have an attitude or a dream? He looked like he could mature into a solid forward but he spurned us and we signed the Henry regen. If he had potential before, he's got it still. Plus the price should be way lower that whatever it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 He just signed for Frankfurt like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 45 minutes ago, hakka said: Surprised that needed to be asked of you tbf. They all were who jumped to mind. Like…. It’s a massive statement of intent. I could be wrong but I don’t think we currently have the PSR headspace to go out and drop £100m on a CB and RW. When we had the headspace and the need was big enough we’ve gotten damn near the biggest stars we could reasonably attract. Maybe we neee to shift Tripps and a few others before we can go after the players we really want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 The Barnes crack is class like. Unreal rewriting of history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 N-oni Beduete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 21 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The Barnes crack is class like. Unreal rewriting of history. The last 20 pages of drivel man, I'm staying in chat til something actually happens before I'm witness to one of this lot having a very real breakdown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Barnes is a player I like a lot and buying him to start at LW instead of ASM is something most of us could have got behind. However he's not starting and unless Howe tells Gordon to play RW he's not going to and that's a problem. Our first 11 and squad is not good enough to have someone of Barnes ability and G&A record sitting on the bench. If we don't sign an elite RW what is the starting 11, because if either Miggy or Murphy are starting we are extremely unlikely to be making any real progress in the league. I would switch Gordon to the right and start Barnes on the left. Just my opinion. Unless Barnes can play on the right which I don't think he can. They are currently our two best wingers by far so we need to find a way to get both of them starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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