janpawel Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 There is a possibility our desired RW isn't available this window, so the club may want to wait until they are available, rather then spend funds on someone who we don't think is the ideal fit, would be ashame if so Though I'd still hope there's an young up and comer type with high potential Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: Another way to look at it maybe if we don't get a RW is that Gordon can play there, Murphy good squad player, injury to Barnes and Hall/Isak/Joelinton/Willock can play left wing. Osula I think can play right and also have Sanusi coming through. There's a flexibility at the back of sign Guehi as can play a 3 there with Burn and Schar/Kelly. Kelly and Burn can play left back and have Livramento/Krafth/Murphy and Trippier that could play right. If Gordon was the answer to RW, don't you think Howe would've played Barnes on LW and Gordon RW last year?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 20 minutes ago, vexred said: If Gordon was the answer to RW, don't you think Howe would've played Barnes on LW and Gordon RW last year?. Possibly if Barnes was consistently fit, as it was Murphy was safer option on Right as always available. Gordon is better on the left as can go outside or cut in but an option for right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Doctor Zaius said: I actually think buying a winger is the recruitment teams hardest task. Our right winger needs to not only have the quality, but needs to be able to press. They need to be really hard working and have plenty of stamina. Finding that amongst the quality needed won't be easy. It won't be about just identifying a winger who's available, the data will need to suggest that they're able to do what Howe wants no doubt. Often last season we'd press their full back and if we were just a bit off it, a fraction of a second too late, they'd be able to play out, bypass our midfield and hit us on the break. Happened loads last season when we were knackered. If we play a winger who's press just isn't up to it, we'll get done and it'll cost goals. A pressing winger is absolutely key to how we play and I reckon that's why Howe is hesitant to get rid of Murphy or Almiron. For all they lack in quality (Almiron more than Murphy) both fit his system and are able to hassle and harry opponents. Someone mentioned yesterday that we haven't upgraded RW for 7 years - might have been @HaydnNUFC I think - so that shows how hard it is to get the right fit for that position. There are options out there, but probably cost a shitload of money. We could probably get by with our current options, but equally it might be the difference between CL and Europa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 trust in the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 2 hours ago, Doctor Zaius said: I actually think buying a winger is the recruitment teams hardest task. Our right winger needs to not only have the quality, but needs to be able to press. They need to be really hard working and have plenty of stamina. Finding that amongst the quality needed won't be easy. It won't be about just identifying a winger who's available, the data will need to suggest that they're able to do what Howe wants no doubt. Often last season we'd press their full back and if we were just a bit off it, a fraction of a second too late, they'd be able to play out, bypass our midfield and hit us on the break. Happened loads last season when we were knackered. If we play a winger who's press just isn't up to it, we'll get done and it'll cost goals. A pressing winger is absolutely key to how we play and I reckon that's why Howe is hesitant to get rid of Murphy or Almiron. For all they lack in quality (Almiron more than Murphy) both fit his system and are able to hassle and harry opponents. Elanga is the guy Howe will want, doesn’t have the quality in my opinion for a top 4 chasing team but likely to come within budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 3 hours ago, johnny36 said: That says we have bid 15 million Euros plus variables for Torres.. Torres/ Madeuke or Kulusevski would improve us Torres is the one I want for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 20 goals for Spain at the age of 24 is a good record..would prefer Raphinha or Bowen but looks like our big money signing will be Guehi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 3 hours ago, vexred said: If Gordon was the answer to RW, don't you think Howe would've played Barnes on LW and Gordon RW last year?. He did when they were both fully fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 4 hours ago, Ikon said: I’m always a bit cautious about the idea when it comes to signing “cast offs” from the elite clubs. I’m just not sure if they still have the genuine hunger and desire after such a club. Usually come with massive wages as well. I’m sure there could be good signings made this way but I’d rather see us picking the absolute best players from lesser clubs. Tonali for example was different as he was a key player. Hypothetically someone like Raphinha would be great, but I just think that the perfect move for him would have been after Leeds if it was compared to now back then regarding our club and where we stand. Chelsea are a basket case club though, with a history of casting out players that have gone on to become exceptional without ever getting a kick there. They don’t have a strategy beyond "gotta sign them all". So purchasing players from there especially before they’ve cemented their position isn’t the worst play at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 42 minutes ago, LFEE said: He did when they were both fully fit. I think it was because Almiron was injured and Murphy was playing right back, when players came back from injury Barnes was back on the bench for Murphy, who started nearly all of the games in the second half of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 13 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Chelsea are a basket case club though, with a history of casting out players that have gone on to become exceptional without ever getting a kick there. They don’t have a strategy beyond "gotta sign them all". So purchasing players from there especially before they’ve cemented their position isn’t the worst play at all. I dont see Chelsea as one of them unless it was us going for the likes of Sterling or other slightly older ones. Definitely wouldn’t mind the likes of Madueke to name one. Players with their best years ahead of them, ones that haven’t really got an honest chance in a settled setup. I wouldn’t mind young and hungry players with desire and ambition. I don’t mind the 18-23 year old bracket from elite clubs. Unless they’ve been given a fair shot at it and still looked far away from going anywhere in their careers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 TalkSPORT claiming we have a concrete interest in Madueke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 Just now, Andy84 said: TalkSPORT claiming we have a concrete interest in Madueke Radio or twitter? Very important distinction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Radio or twitter? Very important distinction Aren’t they both shit ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Aren’t they both shit ? Their twitter has broken quite a few stories. Not exactly Ornstein, but not ftblJoe either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Aren’t they both shit ? Nah, their Twitter is almost Ornstein level reliable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 It was on facebook, a talkSPORT “understands” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 I have no clue about his character or attitude apart from the pen incident(s). If he’s good enough in this department then I would be very happy if we got him. He’s not perfect by any means, especially his decision making from what I’ve seen. However, I like his attributes a lot and his ceiling is very very high potentially. Exciting player even if not the finished article as mentioned. Think a move for him to us would be great for everyone concerned. Him and Guehi and id be very happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 Gordon Isak Kulusevski Barnes Wilson Murphy Osula pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 The more I think about Madueke the more it makes sense. Young, English, PL experience, pacey and clear talent that needs channelled and coached (classic Eddie buy). Has shown some good flashes at Chelsea but with their mental recruitment policy it feels like he's been in and out the side and a wide player like him probably needs a run of games and the commitment that he will get minutes so he doesn't try too hard. I'd be really excited if we got him in, think he'd be brilliant for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, Deuce said: Gordon Isak Kulusevski Barnes Wilson Murphy Osula pls Doesn't even make sense. 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 Guehi, Trafford and Madueke on an option to buy and we're laughing. Hopefully we'll ship a few out too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 Another loan from Chelsea with obligation for Madueke sounds about right if we spend our money on a CB this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Guehi, Trafford and Madueke on an option to buy and we're laughing. Hopefully we'll ship a few out too. Surely we aren’t signing another keeper this window ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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