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13 minutes ago, 80 said:

It does change the picture slightly, but I don't think we're able to rely upon Willock playing out the rest of the season as it stands.  If we lose him again, we're probably back to square one.

 

An interesting idea is whether Gordon could play his role in CM at a push... They're not that dramatically different as players.

 

One thing I do think is this has been a very bad week for Harvey Barnes. It's becoming harder and harder for him to find his spot in the first XI, which I'm sure is where he wants to be.


I think Barnes will go at the end of the season

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22 minutes ago, PopeandGlory said:

I just hope we don’t go anywhere near Elanga. He’s the same level as Miggy and Murphy and would not be an upgrade.

 

Even during this great run for Forest, he’s on 0 goals and 1 assist in 10 games.

Callum Hudson-Odoi is by far the better more talented player

He plays LW though so not needed

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Just now, kingxlnc said:

Saw clips of Mason Greenwood on the weekend, he's killing it in France. Plays that RW position, where he comes inside and shoots. 
Does he have too much baggage / is he good enough for our RW? 

Someone should kill him in France.

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1 minute ago, kingxlnc said:

Saw clips of Mason Greenwood on the weekend, he's killing it in France. Plays that RW position, where he comes inside and shoots. 
Does he have too much baggage / is he good enough for our RW? 

 

What the fuck is this?

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5 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Saw clips of Mason Greenwood on the weekend, he's killing it in France. Plays that RW position, where he comes inside and shoots. 
Does he have too much baggage / is he good enough for our RW? 

I dont think his brand would allow him back in the Premier League. 

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Barnes is a great asset for the team, but yes increasingly difficult to justify having 3 options at LW and none at RW. It’s a bit of a depressing sign of how FFP constricts everything if he goes, as Chelsea have about 12 RWs and NUFC can’t afford to have a single spot on the team with genuine top level competition 

 

Howe seems to have gone totally off Miggy so he’s a goner.

 

I think people need to set reasonable expectations for January. It’s a better time to buy potential (as those players are less likely to be integral parts of competitive teams). There are exceptions, but I’m not sure if a RW of sufficient quality will be available 

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10 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Saw clips of Mason Greenwood on the weekend, he's killing it in France. Plays that RW position, where he comes inside and shoots. 
Does he have too much baggage / is he good enough for our RW? 

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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Interesting to see what people think of the RW issue now that we want Joe and Joe on the left. 
 

Guess different for different games?

 

 

 

 

It's certainly taken the pressure off regarding that position.

 

Think we could potentially look at a talented youngster that won't cost a huge fee, who is good enough to play in the first team when needed, but still has room for growth and won't mind being a rotational option.

 

Someone like that Jonathan Rowe that was at Norwich, that joined Marseille I think it was.

 

If we do that for now then review again at the end of the season that would be good.

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The issue with finding a new system that works is if it is a new way of playing or masking the underlying issues. I guess only time will tell is Gordon happy being permanently right, will willock stay fit and offer us more than 60mins will big Joe pick up a new injury or have issues with suspensions. 

We already have issues with game time for Kelly & Barnes also need players sales really one of miggy or Murphy need to go if trips doesn't give us the season is kraft OK for cover for 2 places or do we need a tino competition. 

 

I guess right now the underlying performer in the 11 is schar so do we go back to looking for a quality addition there?

Do we go for youth so we can increase the quality of the subs bench? 

 

My head hurts thinking about it. 

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One belter of a cross doesn't eliminate our need for a new RW. Gordon was really impressive against Arsenal, but to me that was mainly due his defensive work rate covering and helping Tino multiple times and pressing Arsenals back line. Other than that one cross he didn't offer much threat going forward compared to what he can from the left. 

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Ultimately we still need to replace both Almiron and Murphy, so it makes sense to get one good player to do that, meaning we would have Willock, Barnes, Gordon and the new winger to cover the wide positions, plus either Murphy or a youngster as emergency backup.

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12 minutes ago, Conjo said:

One belter of a cross doesn't eliminate our need for a new RW. Gordon was really impressive against Arsenal, but to me that was mainly due his defensive work rate covering and helping Tino multiple times and pressing Arsenals back line. Other than that one cross he didn't offer much threat going forward compared to what he can from the left. 


He nearly scored and with a bit more composure set one up for Willock… so other than those 3 potentially goal scoring moments … 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Holloway said:

A bad injury to Gordon sees us back to the relative weakness of choice between Miggy, Murphy and Barnes vying for the wide right slot 

Goes back to my struggle in my brain then do you buy a starting RW and means you then look to tweak setup again to accommodate Gordon elsewhere or do we stick with Gordon and find someone maybe not as expensive or instant starting 11 so we have a better squad option than miggy or Murphy. 

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