Big River Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, HawK said: Tbh a ready-made striker is one of the most urgent signings we need to make if Howe doesn't think Osula is ready. Someone who doesn't pull up trees but can do a job up front to facilitate our play to allow Isak to rest or cover when injured. I think Wilson is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 Apparently new contract talks with Tyler Dibling are not going great at Southampton and he isn't happy with it. There's talk that both ourselves and Man United are the most keen. I imagine we'd have a strong chance of convincing him, with the progress fellow young English players, Hall and Tino, have shown, and also because his position is a glaring weakness for us right now. Apparently Southampton want at least £21 million if they sell. Would people be happy with him coming in as a starter on the right? Still quite young and inexperienced, so wondered what people think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 21m sounds way too cheap like. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Apparently new contract talks with Tyler Dibling are not going great at Southampton and he isn't happy with it. There's talk that both ourselves and Man United are the most keen. I imagine we'd have a strong chance of convincing him, with the progress fellow young English players, Hall and Tino, have shown, and also because his position is a glaring weakness for us right now. Apparently Southampton want at least £21 million if they sell. Would people be happy with him coming in as a starter on the right? Still quite young and inexperienced, so wondered what people think. yes. from what I've seen of him, he's very raw, quite greedy with the ball, and doesn't get his head up anywhere near enough. but if anyone can sort that out it's Eddie fkn Howe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 7 minutes ago, KaKa said: Apparently new contract talks with Tyler Dibling are not going great at Southampton and he isn't happy with it. There's talk that both ourselves and Man United are the most keen. I imagine we'd have a strong chance of convincing him, with the progress fellow young English players, Hall and Tino, have shown, and also because his position is a glaring weakness for us right now. Apparently Southampton want at least £21 million if they sell. Would people be happy with him coming in as a starter on the right? Still quite young and inexperienced, so wondered what people think. Absolutely, kind of signing we will make Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 9 minutes ago, Andy84 said: Absolutely, kind of signing we will make Agree, might take a season to bed in but have full faith the kid will be a superstar going forward. Fancy our chances v Man Utd, we can guarantee him game time and they’ve butchered other prospects like Dan James, Sancho etc recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 (edited) I know he isn't the finished article but I would still be happy with Dibling as our starting RW. Edited December 18, 2024 by mosstef Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 I’d rather have Dibling than Mbeumo, personally. Not because Dibling is as good now. But I love seeing great potential grow with the club and become “our” stars rather than buying “ready now” playera from other PL clubs (especially then). Plus in a few years already “older” players resale value will go go down quite a bit. Modern football and all that… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 56 minutes ago, KaKa said: Apparently new contract talks with Tyler Dibling are not going great at Southampton and he isn't happy with it. There's talk that both ourselves and Man United are the most keen. I imagine we'd have a strong chance of convincing him, with the progress fellow young English players, Hall and Tino, have shown, and also because his position is a glaring weakness for us right now. Apparently Southampton want at least £21 million if they sell. Would people be happy with him coming in as a starter on the right? Still quite young and inexperienced, so wondered what people think. He’d be mental to sign a new contract with them now. Will have loads of suitors in the summer once they go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 Zero interest in Rashford. I'm told he comes with a whole lot more baggage than just a dubious attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Apparently new contract talks with Tyler Dibling are not going great at Southampton and he isn't happy with it. There's talk that both ourselves and Man United are the most keen. I imagine we'd have a strong chance of convincing him, with the progress fellow young English players, Hall and Tino, have shown, and also because his position is a glaring weakness for us right now. Apparently Southampton want at least £21 million if they sell. Would people be happy with him coming in as a starter on the right? Still quite young and inexperienced, so wondered what people think. No brainer. Also, the price would be double that at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 Yeah, the £21 million seems to be a bit off. Looks like that has come from the Man Utd side, and what they are looking to bid. So how high would you guys go for him, based on what he's shown so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 22 minutes ago, Ikon said: I’d rather have Dibling than Mbeumo, personally. Not because Dibling is as good now. But I love seeing great potential grow with the club and become “our” stars rather than buying “ready now” playera from other PL clubs (especially then). Plus in a few years already “older” players resale value will go go down quite a bit. Modern football and all that… I'm incredibly capable of pretending Mbuemo is just some rough diamond we unearthed, tbf. I'll gaslight the fuck outta myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 (edited) Having Dibling ahead of a guy thats been arguably one of the best RW in the prem for 2-3 seasons is crackers. Mbeumo is the type of signing to get us top 4. Bored of discussing how much future players will be sold in the future or "how much their value will increase" Edited December 18, 2024 by Menace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Apparently new contract talks with Tyler Dibling are not going great at Southampton and he isn't happy with it. There's talk that both ourselves and Man United are the most keen. I imagine we'd have a strong chance of convincing him, with the progress fellow young English players, Hall and Tino, have shown, and also because his position is a glaring weakness for us right now. Apparently Southampton want at least £21 million if they sell. Would people be happy with him coming in as a starter on the right? Still quite young and inexperienced, so wondered what people think. Yes. Exactly the type of player we should be looking at. 21m seems very low though for a player of his ability, nationality, age and potential with 2.5 years left on his contract. 12 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah, the £21 million seems to be a bit off. Looks like that has come from the Man Utd side, and what they are looking to bid. So how high would you guys go for him, based on what he's shown so far? Don't know. Depends how much we can spend and what it means for other positions, but provided we have enough to get a right footed CB in too in the summer, I wouldn't start questioning if it was senseless spending until we got north of £50m. Edited December 18, 2024 by Conjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 3 minutes ago, Conjo said: Yes. Exactly the type of player we should be looking at. 21m seems very low though for a player of his ability, nationality, age and potential with 2.5 years left on his contract. 13 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah, the £21 million seems to be a bit off. Looks like that has come from the Man Utd side, and what they are looking to bid. So how high would you guys go for him, based on what he's shown so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 Seems an unlikely fit for Howe, although I suppose he could phase him in gradually like with Hall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 5 minutes ago, Menace said: Having Dibling ahead of a guy thats been arguably one of the best RW in the prem for 2-3 seasons is crackers. Mbeumo is the type of signing to get us top 4. Bored of discussing how much future players will be sold in the future or "how much their value will increase" I understand where you're coming from. This is why I've been saying recently that there has to be some balance because we should still be aiming for Europe every year. Ideally Dibling should be coming in as a backup to someone more experienced starting in a top league and with some European experience also. And we then move on the likes of Almiron and Murphy. How realistic that all is though, I don't know. But then again, it depends on how highly they rate Dibling's potential. If they project him making the same sort of quick transition as Hall has, then he'll be worthy of starting in that position. Will all have to be considered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Seems an unlikely fit for Howe, although I suppose he could phase him in gradually like with Hall. How so? Granted I've not seen a great deal of him, but from what I have seen, he seems to work hard both ways of the pitch and (especially for his age) is quite strong and fast, the holy trifecta for a Howe player If you've got quality on the ball on top of that, which he seems to have, you're golden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 19 minutes ago, Menace said: Having Dibling ahead of a guy thats been arguably one of the best RW in the prem for 2-3 seasons is crackers. Mbeumo is the type of signing to get us top 4. Bored of discussing how much future players will be sold in the future or "how much their value will increase" But what we are seeing from Mbuemo, is that his peak? So either paying a premium to get something that’s a slight drop off, or back your scouting system /stats that says Dibling can match with more to his game to go on further. I’d say we’d get more out of Isak with Dibling in the side, then we would with Mbeumo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 Considering he's what 25? Not really no. Dibling you're betting on potential. Mbeumo you're betting on proven results. Again - these type of signings Dibling etc are fantastic if you are already established, but how far can Eddie really take us with a team just full of "future potential" rather than players who are ready to make a difference now. Mbeumo contributions in our current team would have us second/third I'd imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 It’s simple if Bruno is sold to Man City, then go for Mbuemo if not, then go for Dibling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, Menace said: Considering he's what 25? Not really no. Dibling you're betting on potential. Mbeumo you're betting on proven results. Again - these type of signings Dibling etc are fantastic if you are already established, but how far can Eddie really take us with a team just full of "future potential" rather than players who are ready to make a difference now. Mbeumo contributions in our current team would have us second/third I'd imagine. Yeah, however, there is a bit of a middle ground too to some extent. And that is finding someone more proven that is currently undervalued, or who is still in a league where they can be had for a lower fee. It's going to be very interesting to see how we navigate this in the next few windows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 25 minutes ago, Conjo said: How so? Granted I've not seen a great deal of him, but from what I have seen, he seems to work hard both ways of the pitch and (especially for his age) is quite strong and fast, the holy trifecta for a Howe player If you've got quality on the ball on top of that, which he seems to have, you're golden. Good points, I just meant a very young player who is coming in a position where we need a starter ASAP. Medium term I’ve no doubt it would be great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 How do people think Mbeumo would work in a team that isn’t mainly about transitions? Because I think if we are to evolve properly then we will have to become more possession based whether we like it or not. Not mostly good when there’s tons of transitions and space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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