Thumbheed Posted Saturday at 20:58 Share Posted Saturday at 20:58 (edited) 56 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Mbuemo 18 goals and premier league established? Twice is a huge statement, be lucky to live up to the standard Mbuemo has already set. He's got absolutely everything. There's a reason the elite clubs and Man Utd are after him. Edited Saturday at 21:12 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Saturday at 21:04 Share Posted Saturday at 21:04 I actually think we'll need another midfielder in the summer. The drop off from the three first choices is enormous at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Saturday at 21:07 Share Posted Saturday at 21:07 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: I actually think we'll need another midfielder in the summer. The drop off from the three first choices is enormous at the moment. Agreed, Miley is still young, Longstaff isn’t up to it and Willock remains unconvincing recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted Saturday at 21:08 Share Posted Saturday at 21:08 When you look at Villa’s squad compared to ours it’s no surprise they were able to maintain league form alongside the long champions league run. We’ve got a great team, not a great squad. Here’s hoping it doesn’t require a purple going in order to fund it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Saturday at 21:09 Share Posted Saturday at 21:09 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Yeah a new gk, RW and CB with speed takes us up a notch for sure but it’s going to be a struggle during the next window to equip the squad with the depth needed. It's doable. Theres a world where Wharton is coming off the bench to spell Bruno or Tonali. We came close to doing that deal apparently, before deciding against it. He cost £18 million. With the Osula money we could have signed Delap this past summer. £15 million with £5 million in add ons. Imagine those two as integral squad players. This summer, mix a couple of those in that have some versatility, with the key areas you mentioned and we're on our way. Edited Saturday at 21:09 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Saturday at 21:09 Share Posted Saturday at 21:09 Yep, I prefer our starting eleven to Villa's, but no doubt they've got the better squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted Saturday at 21:16 Share Posted Saturday at 21:16 16 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: He's got absolutely everything. There's a reason the elite clubs and Man Utd are after him. I think the r/r at his price point is actually not good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted Saturday at 21:16 Share Posted Saturday at 21:16 49 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Think tonight just reaffirmed we need: - A keeper who can pass through the lines. - A centre-back with a bit of pace. - A right-winger. We'll be a 4th to 7th place team as we are with Howe and our high intensity/quality in the middle and in attack, but for the next level we need those 3. More than that imo. We need options in the middle and a viable alternative to Isak. Look at Villa's subs today - Ramsey, Onana, Malen and Rashford - versus our own. Our starting XI in my opinion is better than any XI they could put out, but we've had to keep flogging the same 11 plus Gordon three times in a week. One additional attacker doesn't substantially change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted Saturday at 21:17 Share Posted Saturday at 21:17 10 minutes ago, Jagten said: I think the r/r at his price point is actually not good. I'm not sure what r/r is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted Saturday at 21:18 Share Posted Saturday at 21:18 Just now, Thumbheed said: I'm not sure what r/r is Risk reward maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted Saturday at 21:23 Share Posted Saturday at 21:23 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Broadsword said: Risk reward maybe? If so, fair enough but I massively disagree. When Luis Campos and Pep are sniffing around you, you're not just a league proven player, you're a player who they think will be at the very highest level and I agree, plus players from France generally adapt really well to the PL. Sidenote to that, that would be both Paul Mitchel and Luis Campos who have seen something in him. Edited Saturday at 21:50 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted Saturday at 21:27 Share Posted Saturday at 21:27 How's Mbeumo when teams sit deep? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted Saturday at 21:34 Share Posted Saturday at 21:34 6 minutes ago, nemtizz said: How's Mbeumo when teams sit deep? Don't think teams really sit deep against Brentford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted Saturday at 21:54 Share Posted Saturday at 21:54 19 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Don't think teams really sit deep against Brentford. Indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Saturday at 22:34 Share Posted Saturday at 22:34 1 hour ago, Thumbheed said: He's got absolutely everything. There's a reason the elite clubs and Man Utd are after him. I'm not sure if you're on a wind up? He's 24 next, he's had one club not even been out on loan anywhere, he's got 11 goals in the French league since 2021. How did you come to the conclusion he's twice the player Brian Mbuemo is. I'm really not being a cock here, just curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 7 hours ago, The Prophet said: I actually think we'll need another midfielder in the summer. The drop off from the three first choices is enormous at the moment. I've always been of the opinion that we need a creative midfielder. Someone who can dictate the game in the middle of the park. Our midfield currently either dominates the opposition midfield or at times are totally dominated. Strange one to fathom as they have dominated the midfield of the two top teams, so you can't say it's due to a step up in quality. Long answer just to say I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago This summer is obviously absolutely huge. We have a lot we need to do and I don't think we will get everything we need. I hope we are active early and don't leave stuff until late in the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 8 hours ago, KaKa said: Thank you! I feel like I've been saying this forever. If we go back into Europe without filling out the squad more, especially now there's even more games to play in Europe, I don't think it's going to go well. As things stand we have one player coming off the bench that is consistently good, in Barnes/Gordon. All the rest are a mish mash of inconsistency, poor play, a lack of experience or struggles with injuries. We really had better figure out a way to stretch that budget this summer. I think pretty much everyone has been saying this forever. I can't think of anyone on the board that doesn't think that the squad needs to be developed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 3 minutes ago, r0cafella said: This summer is obviously absolutely huge. We have a lot we need to do and I don't think we will get everything we need. I hope we are active early and don't leave stuff until late in the window. I'm convinced we'll have a good window, Isak to Liverpool would devastate me though especially if the Saudis fund it by buying Nunez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ben said: I'm convinced we'll have a good window, Isak to Liverpool would devastate me though especially if the Saudis fund it by buying Nunez. I think we have a good window as we can finally buy players after what feels like forever. Just not sure we get everything we need without selling someone. One of the byproducts of this dog shit ffp regime is everyone is all targeting the same profile which has pushed prices all the way up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 8 hours ago, The Prophet said: Yep, I prefer our starting eleven to Villa's, but no doubt they've got the better squad. Bringing in four players made a big difference. We are easing Gordon back you would think after his injury, but it is concerning that there is no confidence in bringing other players in the squad to make fresh changes after 3 games in 6 days. We should certainly be looking to move on Longstaff, Willock, Target, Krafth and Wilson this Summer. Miley and Osula are young, but it's noticeable that Miley is not getting much game time even coming on as a substitute. Osula we will see next season I presume as the same questions were being asked about Hall last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Bringing in four players made a big difference. We are easing Gordon back you would think after his injury, but it is concerning that there is no confidence in bringing other players in the squad to make fresh changes after 3 games in 6 days. We should certainly be looking to move on Longstaff, Willock, Target, Krafth and Wilson this Summer. Miley and Osula are young, but it's noticeable that Miley is not getting much game time even coming on as a substitute. Osula we will see next season I presume as the same questions were being asked about Hall last season. Think the Osula and Hall situations are completely different tbh. Honestly think Osuala was a bit of a punt and he is nowhere near being good enough for us. I’d be amazed if he doesn’t go on loan next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Bringing in four players made a big difference. We are easing Gordon back you would think after his injury, but it is concerning that there is no confidence in bringing other players in the squad to make fresh changes after 3 games in 6 days. We should certainly be looking to move on Longstaff, Willock, Target, Krafth and Wilson this Summer. Miley and Osula are young, but it's noticeable that Miley is not getting much game time even coming on as a substitute. Osula we will see next season I presume as the same questions were being asked about Hall last season. Krafth is fine as a back up right back, emergency CB, the others I agree with completely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, Fatwax said: I think pretty much everyone has been saying this forever. I can't think of anyone on the board that doesn't think that the squad needs to be developed. The way it is approached is the issue. There were people saying that we should spend this summer's budget on two or three 'purples' and we'd be competing for the league. We need to spread that money out for at least 5 players, and there has to be a good level of versatility with at least two of those players. The squad has been neglected for over a year now, and some current members of the squad are now aged out and most are there as just bodies, as they can't really contribute in an impactful way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 8 hours ago, mighty__mag said: I'm not sure if you're on a wind up? He's 24 next, he's had one club not even been out on loan anywhere, he's got 11 goals in the French league since 2021. How did you come to the conclusion he's twice the player Brian Mbuemo is. I'm really not being a cock here, just curious. Nah, not on the wind up. I watched a few vids on him when we were first linked, then decided to watch some full games, and he's a brilliant player. Physically, has it all. He's hard working, a fantastic dribbler, very good finisher and technically brilliant - rarely loses the ball cheaply, but the thing that impresses me the most is his vision. He's one of those players who sees things others don't. Almost Özil-esque with some of his passing. There's a reason the 3 richest clubs in the world are after him. Edited 21 hours ago by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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