NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Optimistic Nut]

30 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

What are peoples thoughts on order of priority going into the window. I think most agree that RW, CB, GK and backup striker are the main signings needed. What are peoples opinions on order of importance?

 

RCB

GK

RW

Squad depth

[Joelinton7]

DCL is a name the media hacks were thrown three years ago, and they’re still running with it. Even if we were ever in for him our plans have changed so much since then that I doubt the board have thought about him in any short-medium term transfer discussions. He’s three years older now and has basically done next to nothing in those three years. He’ll be at Southampton or something next year, not here. 

[Keegans Export]

9 minutes ago, Holloway said:

It's 'bearing'. Baring is showing your arse in Fenwick's window

Noted

[arnonel]

This thread. Wow

 

Mctominay discussion next?

[Fak]

1 hour ago, Roids said:

 

If we're serious about being a regular Top 6 outfit,  push for Delap at £30m or looking elsewhere. You're letting his 'free' tag cloud his actual worth.

 

 

 

 

In an ideal world we might. But this PSR nonsense means it's far from ideal. 

[MagPar]

Any idea on how much we'll have to spend? How come Chelsea, Man Utd etc can just spend at will but even though we're one of the richest clubs in the world, we can hardly spend anything? 

[Groundhog63]

3 minutes ago, MagPar said:

Any idea on how much we'll have to spend? How come Chelsea, Man Utd etc can just spend at will but even though we're one of the richest clubs in the world, we can hardly spend anything? 

 

This is old news but the cartel clubs have huge turnovers that absolutely blow our's out of the water. It's why the rules were put in place and further tinkered with, specifically, to hinder us. Basing allowed expenditure on a % of turnover is the killer, deliberately. 

We're NOT the richest club in the world, by some measure. Just have the richest owners*

 

 

* no idea what UAE v SA finances are tbf

 

[STM]

4 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

What are peoples thoughts on order of priority going into the window. I think most agree that RW, CB, GK and backup striker are the main signings needed. What are peoples opinions on order of importance?

 

CB is priority and thats bizarre to say given that we've only got one RW.

 

I suppose my logic is that Eddie Howe is a positive manager and relies on the quality of his CBs to deal with counter attacks. We are always going to score goals under Howe, but we could concede ALOT of goals next year if we don't get someone to help Schar.

 

But yes, RW should be close 2nd and if we can find someone who can cover ST (Mbuemo) happy days.

[Lush Vlad]

17 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

RCB

GK

RW

Squad depth

Don’t get that personally. Wilson will surely be off. Leaving us with Gordon as a back up, who is shite up front. Then Osula who hasn’t been trusted when the game’s won or gone. 
 

RW is also basically just Jacob Murphy. As Gordon and Barnes are so ineffective there/don’t want to play there/Howe doesn’t like playing them there. 
 

Pope and Dubravka have different faults and I get a better ball playing keeper would potentially kick us on. But a RW/ST is just behind the CB, for me.

 

Not even close to the weakness of goalkeeper. We’ve pretty much had one striker all season and that feels a dangerous game to try again. 

[buzza]

21 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Don’t get that personally. Wilson will surely be off. Leaving us with Gordon as a back up, who is shite up front. Then Osula who hasn’t been trusted when the game’s won or gone. 
 

RW is also basically just Jacob Murphy. As Gordon and Barnes are so ineffective there/don’t want to play there/Howe doesn’t like playing them there. 
 

Pope and Dubravka have different faults and I get a better ball playing keeper would potentially kick us on. But a RW/ST is just behind the CB, for me.

 

Not even close to the weakness of goalkeeper. We’ve pretty much had one striker all season and that feels a dangerous game to try again. 

I agree, we could go another season with the same two keepers. 

But... we do need a striker, a winger or even a combo of the two (Mbuemo type) to cover for and to be able to rest Isak.

Schar is already showing signs of losing his legs and concentration in parts of this season so we need to get a high level replacement so that Schar is the reserve in that position.

 

Three "Purples": RW, RCB & Striker

"Up and comings": Goalie, Nº10, Midfielder (if we sell Sean or Willock)

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

Seen some rumours about Van Hecke from Brighton this morning. Not sure of the validity of the sources but think he’d be a great signing if available at a realistic price. I honestly think he’s one of the most underrated centre halves in the league and still a good age too

[La Parka]

9 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

Seen some rumours about Van Hecke from Brighton this morning. Not sure of the validity of the sources but think he’d be a great signing if available at a realistic price. I honestly think he’s one of the most underrated centre halves in the league and still a good age too

He's also a shithouse master. 

[jackflap]

Not to be clogging up the rumour thread with conjecture but I wonder if Barnes retains his place for the rest of the season and somebody comes in with a big bid for Gordon in the summer would they be tempted. Chelsea is the only side I could see that might throw a bid in just because they're Chelsea and not out of any great need. Perhaps Liverpool if Diaz who's always linked away moved.

 

It's a fairly well stocked area of the team with a lot of players who could do a job there, maybe even Sanusi could emerge as an emergency option next season. Feels like having 2 top class players competing for one position is a luxury they're a few years away from being able to afford given the deficiencies elsewhere in the side.

 

 

 

 

[Optimistic Nut]

1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said:

Don’t get that personally. Wilson will surely be off. Leaving us with Gordon as a back up, who is shite up front. Then Osula who hasn’t been trusted when the game’s won or gone. 
 

RW is also basically just Jacob Murphy. As Gordon and Barnes are so ineffective there/don’t want to play there/Howe doesn’t like playing them there. 
 

Pope and Dubravka have different faults and I get a better ball playing keeper would potentially kick us on. But a RW/ST is just behind the CB, for me.

 

Not even close to the weakness of goalkeeper. We’ve pretty much had one striker all season and that feels a dangerous game to try again. 

 

GK and CB transforms our first XI into a title contending first XI for me. A back up striker doesn't. Obviously squad depth is important but a keeper and defender to improve the first XI is more important imo. Mbuemo or similar added to that who can play up front if needed would be amazing. But we'll always have games like we did last week away to sides like Villa, City and Liverpool while we have Pope/Dubravka in goal and a slow CB pairing.

 

You just had to watch Martinez effortlessly playing 40 yard passes into Watkins feet to see how transformational it'd be to have a keeper of our own like that. 

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Optimistic Nut

[PauloGeordio]

21 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

Seen some rumours about Van Hecke from Brighton this morning. Not sure of the validity of the sources but think he’d be a great signing if available at a realistic price. I honestly think he’s one of the most underrated centre halves in the league and still a good age too

Flipping Hecke. Bring him home.

[Lush Vlad]

9 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

GK and CB transforms our first XI into a title contending first XI for me. A back up striker doesn't. Obviously squad depth is important but a keeper and defender to improve the first XI is more important imo. Mbuemo or similar added to that who can play up front if needed would be amazing. But we'll always have games like we did last week away to sides like Villa, City and Liverpool while we have Pope/Dubravka in goal and a slow CB pairing.

 

You just had to watch Martinez effortlessly playing 40 yard passes into Watkins feet to see how transformational it'd be to have a keeper of our own like that. 

 

 

 

Agree on CB. Top of my list for sure. 
 

As for the keeper. You’re talking about one of the best keepers in world football, certainly with the ball at his feet and also playing in a team that sets up for that ball into midfield. Are we suddenly going to change to that with someone like Trafford? I have my doubts, personally. Although it would help with our build up, of course. 
 

It’s all well and good saying those 2 players transform us. But we’ve seen what Isak is like when he plays half fit or does 3 games a week. He has looked half fit at times this season and that’s without Europe. We’d soon be needing said back up striker. 
 

I also think the RW argument is similar to the keeper one. Murphy has some great strengths and some massive weaknesses. If we were to get a more technical player in that position. Then surely we could have better control of the ball in the final third and they could contribute in other ways other than almost exclusively crosses and shots. Murphy would be a great player for certain games and we’d have competition there. 
 

Oh and If you’re using Villa as a comparison with Martinez. I’d argue they’ve showed how important ‘back ups’ and squad depth is.
 

Look how they’ve managed to assemble a squad of two players for each position. With the line being blurred at times for who is the starter. They’ve managed to compete on all fronts because of this. 
 

I wouldn’t want us to. But we could get away with another season of Pope and Dubravka. We couldn’t with Wilson/no striker and only Murphy as the right wing option.  

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Lush Vlad

[r0cafella]

45 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

Seen some rumours about Van Hecke from Brighton this morning. Not sure of the validity of the sources but think he’d be a great signing if available at a realistic price. I honestly think he’s one of the most underrated centre halves in the league and still a good age too

I don't see us buying Brighton's starters given the prices they demand.

[ExiledGeordie]

I don’t think we can home to next season without a viable backup striker unless someone like Mbuemo comes in and can play through the middle and probably guarantees a fair few goals. 
 

As good as Murphy has been we need a better option at RW moving forwards or at the very least someone Murphy can rotate with. I don’t think Murphy will sustain this seasons form. 

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by ExiledGeordie

[MagPar]

16 hours ago, Groundhog63 said:

 

This is old news but the cartel clubs have huge turnovers that absolutely blow our's out of the water. It's why the rules were put in place and further tinkered with, specifically, to hinder us. Basing allowed expenditure on a % of turnover is the killer, deliberately. 

We're NOT the richest club in the world, by some measure. Just have the richest owners*

 

 

* no idea what UAE v SA finances are tbf

 

I hope we're doing something about that to raise our exposure and have more money available to spend. 

 

Saying that, what can we do? A higher profile shirt sponsor? Making the stadium bigger. A Wrexham style documentary. I have no clue.

[black_n_white]

A RW who can also play as a number 10, would allow us to revert to a 4-2-3-1 in game.

[andyc35i]

The more I think about it, the more Liam Delap for £30m is such a smart decision and I’m pretty sure we will try to get it done. We’re going to have at least 46-48 games next season and we need a striker that can carry the load. We won’t do better than him at his age and with PL experience already and there’s sell on value too

[Weezertron]

12 minutes ago, andyc35i said:

The more I think about it, the more Liam Delap for £30m is such a smart decision and I’m pretty sure we will try to get it done. We’re going to have at least 46-48 games next season and we need a striker that can carry the load. We won’t do better than him at his age and with PL experience already and there’s sell on value too

Tbf  Buying delap for 30m is a smart decision for every club in the league 

[andyc35i]

5 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

Tbf  Buying delap for 30m is a smart decision for every club in the league 

True. Although I’d argue that it’s his best chance of becoming the number 9 for a top club sooner as I’d assume we sell Isak next summer 

[The Butcher]

Delap will want to be first choice. He'll not come here imo.

[Ikon]

24 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

A RW who can also play as a number 10, would allow us to revert to a 4-2-3-1 in game.

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