ponsaelius Posted Sunday at 20:40 Share Posted Sunday at 20:40 Loan with an obligation is just an accounting trick for a permanent signing, not an actual short term loan deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Sunday at 20:49 Share Posted Sunday at 20:49 17 minutes ago, McDog said: On your first point, a loan with an obligation is still 100% a loan. Agree 100% on your second point. Technically sure. But in practice it was just like any of our other transfers. Just structured like a loan to get around PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Mover Posted Sunday at 20:53 Share Posted Sunday at 20:53 Grealish hasn't taken on never mind beaten his fullback for the last three years and that's on him not Pep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted Sunday at 20:56 Share Posted Sunday at 20:56 File Grealish under the Rashford, Dele Alli, Lingard, Bentley etc. Tailing off in their prime age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Sunday at 21:15 Share Posted Sunday at 21:15 Think we should revisit the ‘no loans’ thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted Sunday at 21:38 Share Posted Sunday at 21:38 When did Grealish get to 30? Thought he was early 20s. Time is going too fast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted Sunday at 21:50 Share Posted Sunday at 21:50 4 hours ago, nufcjmc said: I didn't like the jack the lad type of person he appeared sitting on city's bench and slipping away from the England setup pointed to a serious lack of ambition. But the videos I have seen of his interactions with his sister with cerebal palsy and other disabled fans as a dad with two severely disabled kids I must admit I instantly saw him differently. No idea what he could offer these days footballing wise but a loan without obligation may not be so bad. that one with the blind girl on the podium was just sheer class from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted Sunday at 22:56 Share Posted Sunday at 22:56 If PSG are saying they want €40M for Kang-in Lee, we should be looking into a transfer. He is good at dribbling and ball retention, creative passing, and he scores goals. Would be a nice addition to have a left foot on the right. ChosunBiz That would also settle the the rw leaving plenty of money for rcb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted Monday at 00:24 Share Posted Monday at 00:24 4 hours ago, JLC said: £50m seems to be the new £20m = going rate for a very good footballer. Inflation of footballer prices has gone nuts. Another reason PSR is not fit for purpose The acceptable three-year loss being set years ago and not going up with the inflation of transfer fees is very unfair. Wages to turnover is about the only bit that makes some kind of sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted Monday at 00:29 Share Posted Monday at 00:29 Id be up for loans with obligations we can trigger or not trigger depending on how the player does. I think Villa were correct to go for it in January, even if they came up just short. This is independent of my opinion on Rashford and Ascensio, the actual players they chose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted Monday at 01:33 Share Posted Monday at 01:33 2 hours ago, rebelrouser said: If PSG are saying they want €40M for Kang-in Lee, we should be looking into a transfer. He is good at dribbling and ball retention, creative passing, and he scores goals. Would be a nice addition to have a left foot on the right. ChosunBiz That would also settle the the rw leaving plenty of money for rcb. He’s not great; especially for what Howe would demand in a right-winger imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted Monday at 06:47 Share Posted Monday at 06:47 Grealish on loan is a no-brainer for me - he’s a very good footballer and will be well motivated with the World Cup next year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted Monday at 06:53 Share Posted Monday at 06:53 4 minutes ago, Paully said: Grealish on loan is a no-brainer for me - he’s a very good footballer and will be well motivated with the World Cup next year! Can you name a similar profile of a player, in their peak years, not getting game time at a top team who has moved on elsewhere to do well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted Monday at 06:56 Share Posted Monday at 06:56 6 minutes ago, Paully said: Grealish on loan is a no-brainer for me - he’s a very good footballer and will be well motivated with the World Cup next year! I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. He's done a Philips and had lots of money and glory whilst his game's gone to rat shit. See also, but to a lesser extent, the boy Sterling I wouldn't play him instead of Joelinton, Gordon or Barnes on the left of a mid3 or front3 I wouldn't play him instead of Bruno or Tonali as a "playmaker" free role. So what's the point of him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotham town Posted Monday at 07:01 Share Posted Monday at 07:01 7 minutes ago, macphisto said: Can you name a similar profile of a player, in their peak years, not getting game time at a top team who has moved on elsewhere to do well? Salah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted Monday at 07:03 Share Posted Monday at 07:03 5 hours ago, McCormick said: He’s not great; especially for what Howe would demand in a right-winger imo. What does Howe demand of a right winger that he can't do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted Monday at 07:03 Share Posted Monday at 07:03 Salah hardly moved in his peak years away from Chelsea tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted Monday at 07:19 Share Posted Monday at 07:19 15 minutes ago, gotham town said: Salah? 13 appearances for Chelsea and left at 23 is not quite similar to Grealish who is nearly 30 and has over 200 appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted Monday at 07:22 Share Posted Monday at 07:22 If we can get him in on a relatively low wage that doesn't prevent us chasing our main targets, then fine. He'd be alright for a year in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotham town Posted Monday at 07:24 Share Posted Monday at 07:24 3 minutes ago, macphisto said: 13 appearances for Chelsea and left at 23 is not quite similar to Grealish who is nearly 30 and has over 200 appearances. ok then. merely playing devil's advocate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 07:26 Share Posted Monday at 07:26 Hard pass on Grealish. Let him join the mackems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted Monday at 07:30 Share Posted Monday at 07:30 5 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: If we can get him in on a relatively low wage that doesn't prevent us chasing our main targets, then fine. He'd be alright for a year in the squad. Apart from the fact we'd have an older player on £200k a week, part funded by us, sat on the bench. When he's not on the bench where's he playing? Who's he replacing? Gordon's above him in the England pecking order and he's not getting a gig in our mid 3 so I ask again, what's the point of him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted Monday at 07:35 Share Posted Monday at 07:35 Grealish would be class but I think I’d prefer him playing as a 10 rather than out on the left. His age and wages mean it’s a non starter but he would still comfortably be one of our better players, he would be one of those that you don’t realise how good they are until they’re playing for you e.g Trippier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted Monday at 07:38 Share Posted Monday at 07:38 I stand with Miggy, fuck Grealish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted Monday at 07:39 Share Posted Monday at 07:39 7 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Apart from the fact we'd have an older player on £200k a week, part funded by us, sat on the bench. When he's not on the bench where's he playing? Who's he replacing? Gordon's above him in the England pecking order and he's not getting a gig in our mid 3 so I ask again, what's the point of him? We need more than 11 players next season. Whether you like him or not if fit he would play a lot of football across the potential 60 games. Surely you think more of Eddie Howe than this though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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