NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Theregulars]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

I mean, the club is right in a way. The prices quoted for a lot of players are ridiculous but this is because of market dynamics. Unfortunately what Psr has created is convergence every club is targeting the exact same profile (young with room to improve and who's resale value can be enhanced). 

 

Obviously this kind of thing pushes us down the pecking order because despite what we are doing, we are probably the 5th most attractive club to join and when you factor wages maybe the 7th most attractive and that's just in England. It's extremely difficult and we don't have many options. 

I sort of agree. Clearly we are hobbled when it comes to offering mega wages (which I prefer, as it helps to avoid mercenaries). But the types of players we need and in my view should want are going to be expensive. Fair enough if we are trying to maximise budgets but at some stage they’re just going to need to pay asking prices. If you want good players normally clubs aren’t openly willing to sell them at a price convenient for the buyer. 
 

I am biased AF but to me any footballer worth their salt would look at our club and project and go “I fancy a bit of that”. You’ve a manager who will get you to the top of your game and you’ve a great chance of silverware and winning lots of matches, as well as being adored by the most loving fanbase there is. 
 

I don’t agree that there aren’t many options. To me it’s inconceivable that there aren’t players available for purchase who make us better.

[CallumG6]

Love how Sky are trying to big this up as some sort of deadline day. Fuck off man! 

[The Prophet]

The local journalists are more less paid club mouthpieces. It's quite rare for them to break genuine transfer news.

 

Before I get jumped on, that's not a criticism, just the way it has seemed for quite a while now.

[Chicken Dancer]

I do sort of understand the logic and also realise that things could definitely be being kept under wraps, but the the majority of links so far have all been for players already playing in the Premier League. I'm stating the obvious but there's much, much better value overseas and we'd be fools not to be tapping in to the European market. Maybe the fact we're ploughing through Sporting Directors has meant that we have not really been able to grow a vast network of scouts/contacts yet.

 

Of course there is always a risk that they don't take to English football, but our record so far has been pretty impeccable when signing players from overseas. For balance, it's been impeccable from these shores too, so I don't really know how to put into words what I'm thinking in my head without contradicting myself 10 times  

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Theregulars said:

I sort of agree. Clearly we are hobbled when it comes to offering mega wages (which I prefer, as it helps to avoid mercenaries). But the types of players we need and in my view should want are going to be expensive. Fair enough if we are trying to maximise budgets but at some stage they’re just going to need to pay asking prices. If you want good players normally clubs aren’t openly willing to sell them at a price convenient for the buyer. 
 

I am biased AF but to me any footballer worth their salt would look at our club and project and go “I fancy a bit of that”. You’ve a manager who will get you to the top of your game and you’ve a great chance of silverware and winning lots of matches, as well as being adored by the most loving fanbase there is. 
 

I don’t agree that there aren’t many options. To me it’s inconceivable that there aren’t players available for purchase who make us better.

I think players look at the package as a while and not just the sporting side. It's a short career and they need to maximise what they earn. 

 

Plenty of players who can improve us, I don't think that's the issue, but how many players can improve that are both young, with room to grow and affordable? The pool shrinks and those said players are the ones our competitors want as well for the same reasons. 

 

It's also why what Chelsea are doing is interesting and obviously grotesque. Think about how they've basically done everything wrong (some horrible signings, no long term strategy, scattergun approach, heavy overpays and poor managerial appointment) yet they still finished above us. You may also note how they are linked to practically every player we are. 

[The College Dropout]

5 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I think players look at the package as a while and not just the sporting side. It's a short career and they need to maximise what they earn. 

 

Plenty of players who can improve us, I don't think that's the issue, but how many players can improve that are both young, with room to grow and affordable? The pool shrinks and those said players are the ones our competitors want as well for the same reasons. 

 

It's also why what Chelsea are doing is interesting and obviously grotesque. Think about how they've basically done everything wrong (some horrible signings, no long term strategy, scattergun approach, heavy overpays and poor managerial appointment) yet they still finished above us. You may also note how they are linked to practically every player we are. 

Finished above us 2 seasons in a row. Unlimited spending hack.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

It's a short career and they need to maximise what they earn. 

Howe said himself whilst CL football is great to be able to offer, the financials are still what's most important. Which we struggle with. 

[Stottie]

It was disappointing for Forest to not beat Chelsea on the final day. It was all set up for them.

I would say more about it, but our own final day performance was dire and not far off costing us too.

 

 

[Jaqen]

People complaining about the players linked with being at inflated prices but as soon as it's came out the club apparently think that, it's worrying and we need to just bite the bullet?  

[AyeDubbleYoo]

4 minutes ago, Stottie said:

It was disappointing for Forest to not beat Chelsea on the final day. It was all set up for them.

I would say more about it, but our own final day performance was dire and not far off costing us too.

 

Guess the difference with us was that we were already ahead and had enough points already. 

[KennyUtd]

I think deals can be done quickly if you want them to. Gotta feel like we are going to be haggling all summer to save a few quid. While Chelsea, City, Man U and Liverpool hoover up all the talent. Sounds familiar actually. 

[Theregulars]

26 minutes ago, Jaqen said:

People complaining about the players linked with being at inflated prices but as soon as it's came out the club apparently think that, it's worrying and we need to just bite the bullet?  

I think that’s a bit of an over-simplification, and I don’t remember complaining about inflated prices. The prices are inflated because of who we are, where we finished and where we want to go. At some point, yes, I think we have to bite the bullet. 

[Stal]

So Bruno has been chatting with Pedro, and Isak has been chatting with Elanga. I wanna know who Tonali might be chatting to. 

[alexf]

1 minute ago, Stal said:

So Bruno has been chatting with Pedro, and Isak has been chatting with Elanga. I wanna know who Tonali might be chatting to. 

Your Mrs.

[Theregulars]

41 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I think players look at the package as a while and not just the sporting side. It's a short career and they need to maximise what they earn. 

 

Plenty of players who can improve us, I don't think that's the issue, but how many players can improve that are both young, with room to grow and affordable? The pool shrinks and those said players are the ones our competitors want as well for the same reasons. 

 

It's also why what Chelsea are doing is interesting and obviously grotesque. Think about how they've basically done everything wrong (some horrible signings, no long term strategy, scattergun approach, heavy overpays and poor managerial appointment) yet they still finished above us. You may also note how they are linked to practically every player we are. 

It’s difficult to say what motivates all individual players but you’re not wrong that money is a big one, always. 
 

I think where I’m a bit unclear is what is “affordable”. My understanding is that we are able to afford some expensive players now. I’d certainly hope so after such a long period of inactivity and as the quid-pro-quo of having to put up with such morally grotesque owners. I am happy and excited to be proven wrong, but what I see again is another early summer with little back room certainty. 
 

Id hope we could at least afford 1 or 2 ready to go players (ie not purchased for potential).

 

As to your other parameters that’s fair enough, but surely we’ve been planning for this situation for a long time…

 

Before a chorus of “bedwetting” remarks, to be clear I don’t think there’s much cause to worry right now, but I’d have a bit of a funny feeling if nobody is in by start of July. To my mind it’s important to get them in early pre-season.

[Stal]

 

To bastardize that quote; "I'd ask him if he wanted another blanket".

[KennyUtd]

5 minutes ago, Stal said:

So Bruno has been chatting with Pedro, and Isak has been chatting with Elanga. I wanna know who Tonali might be chatting to. 

As long as it isn't Ladbrokes I'm not that bothered. 

[JonBez comesock]

Trafford - in talks 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Theregulars said:

It’s difficult to say what motivates all individual players but you’re not wrong that money is a big one, always. 
 

I think where I’m a bit unclear is what is “affordable”. My understanding is that we are able to afford some expensive players now. I’d certainly hope so after such a long period of inactivity and as the quid-pro-quo of having to put up with such morally grotesque owners. I am happy and excited to be proven wrong, but what I see again is another early summer with little back room certainty. 
 

Id hope we could at least afford 1 or 2 ready to go players (ie not purchased for potential).

 

As to your other parameters that’s fair enough, but surely we’ve been planning for this situation for a long time…

 

Before a chorus of “bedwetting” remarks, to be clear I don’t think there’s much cause to worry right now, but I’d have a bit of a funny feeling if nobody is in by start of July. To my mind it’s important to get them in early pre-season.

I'm guessing we have between 120-150m to spend before sales. That gets you Trafford Elanga and Jao Pedro. Is that enough? Personally I don't think it improves the first 11 to be enough. We have what sounds like a lot of money but in this market it's not actually that much. 

[David Edgar]

Just now, JonBez comesock said:

Trafford - in talks 

 

I refuse to believe talks haven't already taken place if we are to believe he is a long term target. So this news probably just means we are closing in on a conclusion.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, JonBez comesock said:

Trafford - in talks 

Please post the source for this. 

[wyn davies]

Would not be surprised if we didn't actually sign anyone until the 1st July,  though most probably all will be in hand by that date, reasoning being that, we will improve our psr by ditching another previous  poor financial season.

[KennyUtd]

If we sign Trafford are we selling Pope then?

[JT24]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

Please post the source for this. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, KennyUtd said:

If we sign Trafford are we selling Pope then?

All the stories suggest no, but this would be a poor decision imo.