STM Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Robinson signed new deal at Fulham, that agent I was talking about playing a blinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, St1pe said: Think I’d still go Chiesa but basing that solely watching him harass the opposition for Italy. Seems perfect for our style. Yeah, if we got the pre ACL Chiesa it's him over pretty much everyone that's realistic imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, Rich said: If Barnes joins, and the interest in Chiesa is legitimate, would people trade Maxi out for him? I would. But I’d rather have ASM and Chiesa than Barnes I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, Barnes23 said: Not sure that it can be argued that Barnes is a bad signing, but he has some real limitations to his game. Very much suits counter-attacking football, I don't see him providing the extra bit of craft that we were lacking against low blocks. He really is not something we need. If we are close to FFP limit, there is absolutely no point getting him. We have just got a 40m left winger in January. Yes, we need a strong squad because of the UCL-games and all that, but Barnes is just nothing special. Chieasa on to right would make sense tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Harvey Barnes sounds like the name of a teddy bear. Good player though, the Discman will be happy if we sign him, I think he's a big fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Here's one for you. Chiesa or Diaby? Chiesa was my dream signing when the takeover happened, but that injury is probably making me lean towards Diaby. I'd go Chiesa, I think. Much higher potential and Diaby comes with plenty of question marks too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Not trying to be an edgelord but I'd swap ASM for Barnes without any caveats. Persisting with Maxi is basically a gamble at this point because his body is broken; meanwhile Barnes guarantees output without the fitness issues or the alleged baggage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Barnes is a clear upgrade on Maxi. He really isn't like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Not trying to be an edgelord but I'd swap ASM for Barnes without any caveats. Persisting with Maxi is basically a gamble at this point because his body is broken; meanwhile Barnes guarantees output without the fitness issues or the alleged baggage. Nowt edgelord about it. Barnes would be a better fit for us in every single way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, ponsaelius said: He really isn't like. I’d say he is too. Getting a player in that can hit double figures in the wide left position would be a massive upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: He really isn't like. Scored more goals last season than Maxi has for us in total. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: He really isn't like. Aye he’s not at all an upgrade on ASM. Ridiculous how easily people forget how much he carried the whole team for 2 seasons. He’s had injuries and trying to change the way he plays that shouldn’t devalue him as a player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (Very) loosely speaking choosing Barnes over Maxi is like choosing Lampard over Zidane. The games more than just the numbers. Barnes isn't gonna worry the best right backs out there but Maxi will have gameplans made specifically for him - that's the difference. Having said that, Barnes will be a good signing should he come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Scored more goals last season than Maxi has for us in total. True but his stats are genuinely awful otherwise. I think Maxi is a far more talented player who offers more creatively and unsettling teams defensively. I don't mind Barnes as a player but he's the ultimate one trick pony. Edited July 7, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: Scored more goals last season than Maxi has for us in total. So what? How much did maxi drive us up the pitch pretty much all on his own. Let’s not forget Joelinton was missing sitters and longstaff could barely pass the ball and Almiron was almost useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, ponsaelius said: True but his stats are genuinely awful otherwise. I think Maxi is a far more talented player who offers more creatively and unsettling teams defensively. I don't mind Barnes as a player but he's the ultimate one trick pony. That one trick just happens to be end product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: I don't mind Barnes as a player but he's the ultimate one trick pony. Spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, gdm said: Aye he’s not at all an upgrade on ASM. Ridiculous how easily people forget how much he carried the whole team for 2 seasons. He’s had injuries and trying to change the way he plays that shouldn’t devalue him as a player You say carried. He stood out in an absolutely horrific team and set up. He was a shining light when there was absolutely fuck all to watch and enjoy. We are a completely different team now, and we have surpassed him totally, in our style of play and quality, where he has become a bit part player. Think it would do him the world of good to go back to being a big fish in a little pond, he really thrives on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, gdm said: So what? How much did maxi drive us up the pitch pretty much all on his own. Let’s not forget Joelinton was missing sitters and longstaff could barely pass the ball and Almiron was almost useless. Yeah but we're not that team anymore, surely? I think anyone who doesn't have a soft spot for Maxi is a bit weird and I'd be sad to see him go... but we shouldn't keep a player who doesn't fit into the current team style around just because he was good when we were shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: (Very) loosely speaking choosing Barnes over Maxi is like choosing Lampard over Zidane. The games more than just the numbers. Barnes isn't gonna worry the best right backs out there but Maxi will have gameplans made specifically for him - that's the difference. Having said that, Barnes will be a good signing should he come. Those right backs wouldn’t worry much when ASM is lying on the threatment table though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Out of Barnes and ASM, it surprises me that Barnes is the one being labelled a one trick pony. If Barnes got 13 goals at Leicester, how many would he have got for us? 15? If he'd got 15 goals, all of a sudden he would have been a world beater. Any winger getting double figures is worthy of at least being labelled a very good player. I suspect he'd thrive with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, gdm said: Aye he’s not at all an upgrade on ASM. Ridiculous how easily people forget how much he carried the whole team for 2 seasons. He’s had injuries and trying to change the way he plays that shouldn’t devalue him as a player Easy to carry a team when the tactic is defend and give the ball to Maxi to do something. We're way past an individual now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) ASM has end product like, especially now. His xA even last season was top tier. Similar to Willock's xA, it's not his fault that other players missed chances he put on a plate for them. Edited July 7, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, STM said: Out of Barnes and ASM, it surprises me that Barnes is the one being labelled a one trick pony. If Barnes got 13 goals at Leicester, how many would he have got for us? 15? If he'd got 15 goals, all of a sudden he would have been a world beater. Any winger getting double figures is worthy of at least being labelled a very good player. I suspect he'd thrive with us. I would take a one trick pony with those amount of goals any day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, reefatoon said: You say carried. He stood out in an absolutely horrific team and set up. He was a shining light when there was absolutely fuck all to watch and enjoy. We are a completely different team now, and we have surpassed him totally, in our style of play and quality, where he has become a bit part player. Think it would do him the world of good to go back to being a big fish in a little pond, he really thrives on that. That wasn’t the point I was replying about tho. Point is Barnes isn’t a better player than him imo. I’m not sure Maxi will be able to adapt to play the way howe wants him to. I think he deserves some time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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