ExiledGeordie Posted Sunday at 21:31 Share Posted Sunday at 21:31 7 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: We haven’t got any powder to keep dry. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Sunday at 21:33 Share Posted Sunday at 21:33 An ineffective left winger? Sure, that's exactly what we are crying out for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted Sunday at 22:14 Share Posted Sunday at 22:14 Fichajes also said we were signing Sergio Ramos the other week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Sunday at 22:58 Share Posted Sunday at 22:58 9 hours ago, Jewel said: I wouldn’t be too upset if we don’t sign anyone in the January window. keep our powder dry and go again properly in the summer. I think it's probably fair to say that any future signings whether January or the summer will be Mitchell-led. Can't see Howe being given carte blanche like he was previously unless we know for sure he's here long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted Sunday at 23:47 Share Posted Sunday at 23:47 47 minutes ago, TRon said: I think it's probably fair to say that any future signings whether January or the summer will be Mitchell-led. Can't see Howe being given carte blanche like he was previously unless we know for sure he's here long term. Feel the same. If we do get players in Jan it'll be under Mitchell's choice. Eddie won't have any input. Maybe even said to Eddie, you're getting X signings and Y players are being sold. Get on with it or you can leave at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Sunday at 23:55 Share Posted Sunday at 23:55 7 minutes ago, Izakaya said: Feel the same. If we do get players in Jan it'll be under Mitchell's choice. Eddie won't have any input. Maybe even said to Eddie, you're getting X signings and Y players are being sold. Get on with it or you can leave at the end of the season. Well that would be stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted Monday at 00:09 Share Posted Monday at 00:09 3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Well that would be stupid. I agree. I highly doubt Mitchell would ignore the manager's wishes completely. That said, his remit is to run the transfers so if agreement isn't made with the gaffer, he wins the tiebreaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Monday at 00:32 Share Posted Monday at 00:32 40 minutes ago, Izakaya said: Feel the same. If we do get players in Jan it'll be under Mitchell's choice. Eddie won't have any input. Maybe even said to Eddie, you're getting X signings and Y players are being sold. Get on with it or you can leave at the end of the season. Mitchell had already said this is not how things will work. However, he does need to offer more of a framework around how the squad needs to be improved on. With specific positions and roles in mind. He also needs to provide a wider array of players for each of these positions and roles for the manager to then select from. These players need to be at the right fee and wages to allow us to continue to build at a reasonable rate without doing us in completely PSR wise. If we go with this sort of approach we'll be just fine, as it's what we should have been doing in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Monday at 00:55 Share Posted Monday at 00:55 There's not a chance the club will sign players without the final say from Howe, they may as well sack him if they do that Howe will have final say and rightly so but much like Klopp listened to Edwards when it came to the signing of Salah then Howe needs to do the same As it happens I don't think we'll do much in January and if the reason for that is it allows us to have a bigger summer then I'm all for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 08:24 Share Posted Monday at 08:24 Need to avoid a ‘final say’ at all really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Monday at 08:26 Share Posted Monday at 08:26 8 hours ago, Izakaya said: Feel the same. If we do get players in Jan it'll be under Mitchell's choice. Eddie won't have any input. Maybe even said to Eddie, you're getting X signings and Y players are being sold. Get on with it or you can leave at the end of the season. If that happened Eddie would resign, and rightly so. But there’s absolutely no chance of it happening, so we’re alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted Monday at 08:27 Share Posted Monday at 08:27 Fell the side needs a spark of something new in the attacking third and maybe a new right winger might bring that? Hopefully the plan is to ship out almiron and bring in a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted Monday at 08:38 Share Posted Monday at 08:38 5 minutes ago, black_n_white said: Fell the side needs a spark of something new in the attacking third and maybe a new right winger might bring that? Hopefully the plan is to ship out almiron and bring in a replacement. Possibly would as Tino seems to be good at driving up the pitch and then goes backwards and is reluctant to cross. If we have a creative right winger then that stops playing people out of position on the right and stops Tino having to be that creative force he doesn't appear to be. If we have a valid threat on the right it also means we can fully utilise both wing play and stops us being easy to mark as it wouldn't all be coming from one side. Obviously asking alot of the right winger but we have been desperate for something different and think that does that. The short term alternative is Trips comes in for more games which if he does want away then I guess that isn't an option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Monday at 08:58 Share Posted Monday at 08:58 Just prepare for nothing, it's already rumoured we'll be doing nowt incomingwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Monday at 09:02 Share Posted Monday at 09:02 36 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Need to avoid a ‘final say’ at all really. Don't think you can, not sure any of the clubs operate that way (except maybe Real Madrid where Perez just signs who he wants) Even Klopp with the Salah scenario, although it wasn't his preferred choice he listened to what the data people were saying and agreed to it Any other way is problematic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted Monday at 09:02 Share Posted Monday at 09:02 2 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Just prepare for nothing, it's already rumoured we'll be doing nowt incomingwise Sell to buy is the other line coming out so trips and miggy go there may be some wiggle room for a signing if we don't peddle someone then it's loans/youth or no one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted Monday at 09:07 Share Posted Monday at 09:07 8 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: There's not a chance the club will sign players without the final say from Howe, they may as well sack him if they do that Howe will have final say and rightly so but much like Klopp listened to Edwards when it came to the signing of Salah then Howe needs to do the same As it happens I don't think we'll do much in January and if the reason for that is it allows us to have a bigger summer then I'm all for it In reality the way this should work is that they should be identifying positions - CB/RW (likely departures of Wilson/Miggy/Tripps) - scout the players - recommend the CB/RW to Howe from the list - get his viewpoint - then collectively reach a decision - that’s how the sporting model should work - it should continue with or without Howe, so the next manager isn’t saturated with Howe signings (bit like Man U with Ten Haag) - you work with the clubs project Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted Monday at 09:11 Share Posted Monday at 09:11 (edited) Richest club in the world supposedly and if we do nothing in January we'll have barely spent anything for three transfer windows. Fuck PSR. Edited Monday at 09:11 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Monday at 09:16 Share Posted Monday at 09:16 6 minutes ago, Mikky said: In reality the way this should work is that they should be identifying positions - CB/RW (likely departures of Wilson/Miggy/Tripps) - scout the players - recommend the CB/RW to Howe from the list - get his viewpoint - then collectively reach a decision - that’s how the sporting model should work - it should continue with or without Howe, so the next manager isn’t saturated with Howe signings (bit like Man U with Ten Haag) - you work with the clubs project I agree with this but the only aspect I think that is crucial is if Howe prefers player X from the list whilst Mitchell prefers player Y then it should be Howe with that final say and I think that is how it works I just think the suggestion from some that Howe have next to no involvement is absurd and not likely to ever happen, be that with Howe or whoever the next manager is (That's not me wanting Howe out btw, there will at some point be a next manager) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Monday at 09:17 Share Posted Monday at 09:17 8 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: There's not a chance the club will sign players without the final say from Howe, they may as well sack him if they do that Howe will have final say and rightly so but much like Klopp listened to Edwards when it came to the signing of Salah then Howe needs to do the same As it happens I don't think we'll do much in January and if the reason for that is it allows us to have a bigger summer then I'm all for it It could be a repeat of this summer then. If Howe gets the sign off, and he decides only a proven player will improve his side, then we don't sign anyone other than another Osula type or young hopeful for the future. Then he'll need to get us to Europe with the players we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted Monday at 09:43 Share Posted Monday at 09:43 24 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I agree with this but the only aspect I think that is crucial is if Howe prefers player X from the list whilst Mitchell prefers player Y then it should be Howe with that final say and I think that is how it works I just think the suggestion from some that Howe have next to no involvement is absurd and not likely to ever happen, be that with Howe or whoever the next manager is (That's not me wanting Howe out btw, there will at some point be a next manager) That’s fair enough and was sort of the point I was trying to make - the club drives the scouting - sit down with Howe and work with him from that list - who is on the list shouldn’t involve Howe but ensure that he gets all the information he needs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted Monday at 14:50 Share Posted Monday at 14:50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted Monday at 14:57 Share Posted Monday at 14:57 17 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: An ineffective left winger? Sure, that's exactly what we are crying out for Imagine if we signed another left winger Chuck another goalkeeper in while we're at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 15:16 Share Posted Monday at 15:16 6 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Don't think you can, not sure any of the clubs operate that way (except maybe Real Madrid where Perez just signs who he wants) Even Klopp with the Salah scenario, although it wasn't his preferred choice he listened to what the data people were saying and agreed to it Any other way is problematic Chelsea have alaways operated like that. Managers have input but a lot of the action was dictated by the club/Roman. Spurs are also largely run like that. A fair number of signings are happening no matter what. Similar in Europe. Thats why owners want coaches like Slot, Maresca And Ange. They’ll use and be happy with the players bought for them. Someone like Conte only uses who he wants. Liverpool didn’t sign the CM they’ve needed for years, not a peep of discontent in the media from Slot. Their owners are also fairly happy for them to finish level with the investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 15:17 Share Posted Monday at 15:17 26 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said: They signed him for 100k in the summer apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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