Holmesy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 19 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Exactly...its all good having £150m in the bank, but it doesn't score 20 league goals. It's got to be spent right...Spurs did it right the first time round, but didn't afterwards. Brighton did originally, but haven't maintained it. The buy low sell high model is great while it works but one mistake can totally scupper it Currently we're almost solely reliant on Isak to score our goals, with one or two players chipping in with high single figures. Gordon had a standout season last year but he doesn't look like equalling those numbers or even getting close. IF we sold Isak and got rid of some of the other expendables - Barnes, Willock, Wilson, Longstaff, Target, Trippier, Murphy, we could potentially have as much as £300m to spend (assuming we have a kitty already). We could add more goals from the front 3 and from midfield, which would negate the 10 goals we lose from Isak leaving, and overall we're a more potent team. Plus, greater squad depth. However, if we can add more goals from wide players and midfield, and improve squad depth while keeping Isak, that would be ideal. But we would have to do some serious player trading to make it happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 20 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Currently we're almost solely reliant on Isak to score our goals, with one or two players chipping in with high single figures. Gordon had a standout season last year but he doesn't look like equalling those numbers or even getting close. IF we sold Isak and got rid of some of the other expendables - Barnes, Willock, Wilson, Longstaff, Target, Trippier, Murphy, we could potentially have as much as £300m to spend (assuming we have a kitty already). We could add more goals from the front 3 and from midfield, which would negate the 10 goals we lose from Isak leaving, and overall we're a more potent team. Plus, greater squad depth. However, if we can add more goals from wide players and midfield, and improve squad depth while keeping Isak, that would be ideal. But we would have to do some serious player trading to make it happen. All makes perfect sense...but who would is there available that does what Isak does? We would have to take a gamble and could easily end up with a Zirkzee. Alternatively if Mitchell is as good as his reputation suggests we could get Isak mk ii. Massive risk when you can't spend your way out of trouble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 22 minutes ago, gjohnson said: All makes perfect sense...but who would is there available that does what Isak does? We would have to take a gamble and could easily end up with a Zirkzee. Alternatively if Mitchell is as good as his reputation suggests we could get Isak mk ii. Massive risk when you can't spend your way out of trouble No idea. My knowledge of world football is pretty poor these days but if you have goals all over the pitch, you don't necessarily need someone as potent as Isak. Look at Mateta at Palace as one example - i'm not suggesting we should buy him (before someone chips in with Mateta followed by a laughing emoji). I'm just highlighting that value is out there - he has roughly the same number of goals as Isak, is playing for a tinpot club and cost £11m. Kudus at West Ham has looked decent in spurts, Jhon Dhuran looked more than handy, Liam Delap has made an impact in the PL. There doesn't seem to be a shortage of players who can score goals at this level. It just takes decent scouting, which apparently we have (and Man Utd definitely don't). And that's not even mentioning the likes of Oshimen, Sesko and David. If we had 10-12 goals coming from the left, the same from the right, 15-20 from our main striker, 10 from our backup striker and a couple of midfielders chipping in with 5-6 we'd be in far better shape than we are now. The fear in losing Isak is 'where do the goals from?". But if Isak got injured this season, God forbid, we'd be in exactly the same position. It's far more risky putting all our eggs in one basket than it is buying multiple baskets and sharing the eggs out. As I said, if we can keep him, add goals from midfield, both flanks and a decent backup striker, happy days but where does the money come from to buy those players? Maybe Mitchell can unearth some cheap, Mitoma-style gems. Time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, LFEE said: Sounds great that we have money to spend this summer without sellinh players. Guess it makes sense when we are getting the earlier seasons after PIFs entry off the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Ofcourse we’d be crazy to sell top targets but it might be taken out of our hands to a point if we don’t get a CL spot. There might not be anyone who can afford Isak with 3 years left on his contract but I still think someone will go in for him if we finish outside the top 5. A Europa league place and major signings and he might stay another season. Edited March 4 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Don't buy anybody from PSV, they're shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Watching Delap, Sesko and David according to Hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Signing David feels like playing FIFA about 7 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Watching Delap, Sesko and David according to Hope. Isak being replaced by Delap would be the biggest downgrade in the history of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Watching Delap, Sesko and David according to Hope. None are going to play second fiddle to Isak are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Signing David feels like playing FIFA about 7 years ago. Avoid for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, joeyt said: None are going to play second fiddle to Isak are they? The piece says they are being identified as potential replacements for Isak, should he leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, joeyt said: None are going to play second fiddle to Isak are they? Isak David Gordon New RW Tonali Bruno Seriously though, it's a BS rumour, from a lot of what they've said, it points to more niche young buys in the £10m-£20m range, with the ability to be coached and improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 21 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Watching Delap, Sesko and David according to Hope. Would only be happy if we signed all three to replace Isak. That is about par for replacing one of the best strikers in the world, for a more rounded strike force with depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Would only take Sesko of that lot if Isak was sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 David isn't coming here. Arsenal have been tracking Sesko for over 2 years. Delap seems more likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I’d love Delap but would he come? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, RodneyCisse said: I’d love Delap but would he come? If a bigger fish doesn't bite of course he would. That being said we probably can't afford him unless we sell a purple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Delap would be a great Callum Wilson replacement. Isak, not so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Jewel said: Delap would be a great Callum Wilson replacement. Isak, not so much. Yeah, he’d be second fiddle which is why it would be an odd move for me. With a European competition though, we’d need depth and I’m sure Eddie would be able to sell plenty of game time and opportunities against certain types of teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Delap could go to the top. Imagine every man and his dog will be after him in the summer. Chelsea seems an obvious destination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Delap is the type of signing we should be making. The elite won’t go for him because he’s still raw and not finished article, whilst we can take on those players because we’re not expected to challenge for titles. Think if we’re signing two attackers, then Delap + RW winger would be ideal. Delap can also play on wing too if needed if we were to move on Barnes this summer. Gordon - Delap - Sanusi Isak - Delap - Osula New RW - Osula - Murphy Be a bit like Liverpool of recent years where their attackers are all capable of playing through middle and outwide, so at times it’s like playing with three strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Delap is defo a good Wilson replacement and further along than Osula right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, Sibierski said: Delap is the type of signing we should be making. The elite won’t go for him because he’s still raw and not finished article, whilst we can take on those players because we’re not expected to challenge for titles. Think if we’re signing two attackers, then Delap + RW winger would be ideal. Delap can also play on wing too if needed if we were to move on Barnes this summer. Gordon - Delap - Sanusi Isak - Delap - Osula New RW - Osula - Murphy Be a bit like Liverpool of recent years where their attackers are all capable of playing through middle and outwide, so at times it’s like playing with three strikers. Would’ve agreed a few years ago but because of PSR the top teams are thinking no differently to us now. Look at Man City’s last transfer window. Our window of opportunity was when Ipswich bought him. We’ll keep Isak for 12 months and David, Sesko and Delap will all end up elsewhere IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, LFEE said: Would’ve agreed a few years ago but because of PSR the top teams are thinking no differently to us now. Look at Man City’s last transfer window. Our window of opportunity was when Ipswich bought him. We’ll keep Isak for 12 months and David, Sesko and Delap will all end up elsewhere IMO. It's unlikely we can get any of them anyway. Delap is the most realistic but in order to buy him we either change system or Sell Isak. Even if we were to change system wed have to neglect other areas of the squad bring him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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