ToonAbroad Posted Monday at 08:50 Share Posted Monday at 08:50 20 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: I think he’s going to go Man Utd Surely a club with European fixtures offers him more opportunities for minutes though? With Isaks injury issues, he'd get a lot of opportunities here I'd suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 08:50 Share Posted Monday at 08:50 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Caulkin and Waugh saying our adidas deal does include a champions league qualification clause, meaning we get more money from them. Also says minimum 37 million extra from champions league next season. Unsurprisingly, Guehi, Trafford, Elanga and Mbeumo named as potential targets in their article. I read that and refuse to copy and paste Chris Waughs 2 year old copy and paste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted Monday at 08:51 Share Posted Monday at 08:51 It feels like this window is going to have the most churn in a very long time. In terms of depth, we already need the following: Centre Back, Left Back, Centre Mid & Right Wing Then you count the fact we're likely to lose: Longstaff, Wilson, Dubs, Vlach, Ruddy, Lascelles. Then add in, Gordon, Willock and Trippier as potentially exits. With the exits, I feel as a minimum this summer we really need: 1x Goalkeeper, 1x Centre Back, 1x Left Back, 1x Centre Mid, 1x Right Wing 1x Striker Potentially add a right back another centre back and a left winger if the potential exits leave. Until I sat down a wrote this, I didn't quite realise just how much work we needed to do, it's a mammoth summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted Monday at 08:51 Share Posted Monday at 08:51 1 minute ago, HayDen Traces said: Man U will blow everyone else out the water on wages, exactly the tactic they used with Cunha. And if he moves purely for the wages then fuck him. Not the sort of player we want and exactly the sort of player that’s led Man United to have a squad with the absolutely zero character or courage. They’ve thrown money at the problem since Ferguson left - it ain’t always the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted Monday at 08:52 Share Posted Monday at 08:52 I'd be very surprised if Gordon goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Monday at 08:53 Share Posted Monday at 08:53 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: And if he moves purely for the wages then fuck him. Not the sort of player we want and exactly the sort of player that’s led Man United to have a squad with the absolutely zero character or courage. They’ve thrown money at the problem since Ferguson left - it ain’t always the answer. No money mercenaries for me. He’s 21 and still developing. Let him develop along side arguably one of the most in demand forwards in the world, under a world class coach! Edited Monday at 08:54 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 08:54 Share Posted Monday at 08:54 3 minutes ago, 54 said: It feels like this window is going to have the most churn in a very long time. In terms of depth, we already need the following: Centre Back, Left Back, Centre Mid & Right Wing Then you count the fact we're likely to lose: Longstaff, Wilson, Dubs, Vlach, Ruddy, Lascelles. Then add in, Gordon, Willock and Trippier as potentially exits. With the exits, I feel as a minimum this summer we really need: 1x Goalkeeper, 1x Centre Back, 1x Left Back, 1x Centre Mid, 1x Right Wing 1x Striker Potentially add a right back another centre back and a left winger if the potential exits leave. Until I sat down a wrote this, I didn't quite realise just how much work we needed to do, it's a mammoth summer Imagine if we didn't get CL? Your right though, I fully expect us to go in to the next season with some holes mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted Monday at 08:59 Share Posted Monday at 08:59 7 minutes ago, ToonAbroad said: Surely a club with European fixtures offers him more opportunities for minutes though? With Isaks injury issues, he'd get a lot of opportunities here I'd suspect. No, playing as first choice starting for a club like Man U gets your name in the England squad . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted Monday at 09:01 Share Posted Monday at 09:01 10 minutes ago, ToonAbroad said: Surely a club with European fixtures offers him more opportunities for minutes though? With Isaks injury issues, he'd get a lot of opportunities here I'd suspect. Wouldn’t be first choice though, as I imagine he would be at Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted Monday at 09:02 Share Posted Monday at 09:02 7 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: I'd be very surprised if Gordon goes. I wouldn’t- he hasn’t been right second half of this season, Howe has given him plenty of chances and Howe needs to think of the next step up as we have hit CL twice in three years, we need consistency. I love him though and wouldn’t be bothered either way personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted Monday at 09:04 Share Posted Monday at 09:04 1 minute ago, Collage said: Wouldn’t be first choice though, as I imagine he would be at Man U. Surely they would have to move on either Hojlund or Zirkzee to accommodate him,no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 09:04 Share Posted Monday at 09:04 Just now, simonsays said: Surely they would have to move on either Hojlund or Zirkzee to accommodate him,no? Hoijlund has been linked with inter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted Monday at 09:04 Share Posted Monday at 09:04 I think we’ll sell one of our starters, probably either Gordon or Tino. It’s pretty strange for a club to just go year after year not selling anyone of any value. A lot of work needs done to the squad given the lack of movement over the past few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted Monday at 09:07 Share Posted Monday at 09:07 My guess would be Tino is going nowhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Monday at 09:07 Share Posted Monday at 09:07 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: I wouldn’t- he hasn’t been right second half of this season, Howe has given him plenty of chances and Howe needs to think of the next step up as we have hit CL twice in three years, we need consistency. I love him though and wouldn’t be bothered either way personally. Which of our players have shown this consistency you are talking about? Cant think of anyone who has not had a poor period the last couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted Monday at 09:10 Share Posted Monday at 09:10 3 minutes ago, J7 said: I think we’ll sell one of our starters, probably either Gordon or Tino. It’s pretty strange for a club to just go year after year not selling anyone of any value. A lot of work needs done to the squad given the lack of movement over the past few years. Tino is untouchable for me, I couldn’t name a comparable player in any league at a young age with his attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted Monday at 09:11 Share Posted Monday at 09:11 Not sure we'll sell Vlach. If we really paid £20m for him, you'd have to wonder what we could realistically get for him. Whatever that is, it's likely to be at a big loss, which means less headroom this year. That being the case, reckon we keep him in that 3rd choice spot. Then again, you lose a few million every year for someone who isn't playing. Not a great deal for us and he might be alright for all I know, but it was probably the best of a bad situation at the time. 2-3 first team players and some talented development squad players please. Obviously, with a sale that changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted Monday at 09:12 Share Posted Monday at 09:12 4 minutes ago, Displayname said: Which of our players have shown this consistency you are talking about? Cant think of anyone who has not had a poor period the last couple of years. Isak has been dire the last 10 or so games too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted Monday at 09:13 Share Posted Monday at 09:13 I presume if we do get Delap then the pitch to him will not have been that he’s coming to be Isak’s backup. There’ll definitely be plans for them to be on the pitch together quite a bit. Remember how utterly fucking devastating they were together when we would start one of Isak/Wilson and then bring the other on for the last half hour, Isak on the left and Wilson through the middle? Think there’s a fair chance the plan would be for them to start alternating games, playing 90 minutes when they start and then being on the bench for the next game with a guaranteed half hour against tired legs. It’s plenty of football for both of them IMO, and there’s scope for us to start them both on occasion too. Would possibly mean one of Gordon or Barnes becomes expendable though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted Monday at 09:13 Share Posted Monday at 09:13 2 minutes ago, SAK said: Tino is untouchable for me, I couldn’t name a comparable player in any league at a young age with his attributes. I’d like to think he won’t be going, but the City rumours are pretty strong. I’d be wanting more than the £60m suggested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Monday at 09:17 Share Posted Monday at 09:17 Just now, tarie4 said: Isak has been dire the last 10 or so games too. Yup. Unless you are called Ronaldo or Messi, having down periods is absolutely normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted Monday at 09:20 Share Posted Monday at 09:20 7 minutes ago, Shak said: I presume if we do get Delap then the pitch to him will not have been that he’s coming to be Isak’s backup. There’ll definitely be plans for them to be on the pitch together quite a bit. Remember how utterly fucking devastating they were together when we would start one of Isak/Wilson and then bring the other on for the last half hour, Isak on the left and Wilson through the middle? Think there’s a fair chance the plan would be for them to start alternating games, playing 90 minutes when they start and then being on the bench for the next game with a guaranteed half hour against tired legs. It’s plenty of football for both of them IMO, and there’s scope for us to start them both on occasion too. Would possibly mean one of Gordon or Barnes becomes expendable though. Just to satisfy an idea I'd like to at least see an experiment of a player like Delap up top and Isak playing behind him as a 10. I'm not criticising Isak or dropping him at all, he's one of the best CFs in the world imo but I also think he's good enough to drop 15 yards deeper and get move involved in the build up. He's that good he could do it and excel at it. Would definitely like to see it at some point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 09:23 Share Posted Monday at 09:23 1 minute ago, midds said: Just to satisfy an idea I'd like to at least see an experiment of a player like Delap up top and Isak playing behind him as a 10. I'm not criticising Isak or dropping him at all, he's one of the best CFs in the world imo but I also think he's good enough to drop 15 yards deeper and get move involved in the build up. He's that good he could do it and excel at it. Would definitely like to see it at some point I like the idea of paper a lot, the concern would be the defensive side of things. Yesterday was a good example of needing 3 midfielders who can cover ground, having Idak (albeit as a 10) and Bruno playing deeper concerns me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted Monday at 09:25 Share Posted Monday at 09:25 3 minutes ago, midds said: Just to satisfy an idea I'd like to at least see an experiment of a player like Delap up top and Isak playing behind him as a 10. I'm not criticising Isak or dropping him at all, he's one of the best CFs in the world imo but I also think he's good enough to drop 15 yards deeper and get move involved in the build up. He's that good he could do it and excel at it. Would definitely like to see it at some point Note Isak and Gyokores both start for Sweden and have had success Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 09:26 Share Posted Monday at 09:26 Just now, Mikky said: Note Isak and Gyokores both start for Sweden and have had success Success against who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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