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2 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

If we really f this window up totally, I guess Mitchell was right with "recruiting is not fit for purpose"?

 

he should include himself in that the fucking divvy.

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1 minute ago, KingArthur said:

If we really f this window up totally, I guess Mitchell was right with "recruiting is not fit for purpose"?

Nah. very different landscape now in terms of the staff in place compared to before he came in.

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The Paul Mitchell who reportedly went back on Staveley's assurances that Isak would get an improved contract and in doing so contributed to this situation. The Paul Mitchell who stopped us buying James Trafford last season? The Paul Mitchell who by most accounts came in and fucked up the harmony inside the club? That did similar at Monaco. He's the one that's not fit for purpose.

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23 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

We've only had 1 DoF haven't we? He publicly said he was going to sell our best players then hired a bloke who immediately did an interview calling Andy Howe and Steve Nickson shite.

 

 

 

We had that nobhead who want to Man Utd for a fortnight before Mitchell

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20 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

The Paul Mitchell who reportedly went back on Staveley's assurances that Isak would get an improved contract and in doing so contributed to this situation. The Paul Mitchell who stopped us buying James Trafford last season? The Paul Mitchell who by most accounts came in and fucked up the harmony inside the club? That did similar at Monaco. He's the one that's not fit for purpose.

The thing is. He is not here anymore. And we are not getting anyone in. We didnt get anyone last summer or January. Will we blame him next summer also?

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Just now, KingArthur said:

The thing is. He is not here anymore. And we are not getting anyone in. We didnt get anyone last summer or January. Will we blame him next summer also?

Thats not technically true like, we have signed a player in the the position that has been most needed over the past few years. 

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3 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

The thing is. He is not here anymore. And we are not getting anyone in. We didnt get anyone last summer or January. Will we blame him next summer also?

He's not solely to blame, but the idea that he gets to say what is and isn't fit for purpose is a joke. Our transfer policy was working very well until he arrived. 

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6 minutes ago, 54 said:

Thats not technically true like, we have signed a player in the the position that has been most needed over the past few years. 

Yes, we have signed one, true. But no one is happy about incomings right? I still have faith in them, but come September and if we have no first class striker on the books, heads need to roll

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5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

He's not solely to blame, but the idea that he gets to say what is and isn't fit for purpose is a joke. Our transfer policy was working very well until he arrived. 

Did it? Or is it working now that he is gone?

 

I would say we have been doing the bare minimum for two years. 

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Just now, KingArthur said:

Did it? Or is it working now that he is gone?

 

I would say we have been doing the bare minimum for two years. 

2 years ago we signed Tonali, Livramento, Hall, Barnes etc. That was the last summer window before he came in and It was working, yes. Since then the transfer windows we've had were overseen by him, or we've had no DoF because he's left at the last minute.

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3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

2 years ago we signed Tonali, Livramento, Hall, Barnes etc. That was the last summer window before he came in and It was working, yes. Since then the transfer windows we've had were overseen by him, or we've had no DoF because he's left at the last minute.

Last summer he said he didnt interrupt the plans, players were targeted before him. 
 

I mean if you ask me havent been good on the market for ages. Tonali and Isak yes,  but they were huge purchases for us. 
 

But nevermind. There is still time. 

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3 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

Last summer he said he didnt interrupt the plans, players were targeted before him. 
 

I mean if you ask me havent been good on the market for ages. Tonali and Isak yes,  but they were huge purchases for us. 
 

But nevermind. There is still time. 

Mitchell was our DoF working on deals last summer, by his own admission. He apparently promised Howe Guehi then couldn't get it done. It being bad for ages doesn't really line up with the windows and who was running them.

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1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Mitchell was our DoF working on deals last summer, by his own admission. He apparently promised Howe Guehi then couldn't get it done. It being bad for ages doesn't really line up with the windows and who was running them.

I just dont think this current setup is much better, so like I said, we need to recruit right people there so this doesnt happen again. 

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If we sell Isak for say £150M where could we go from there?

 

Assuming we had at least £50M before that, we could spend around £200M in total.

 

If that could give us Trafford, Scalvini, Sesko and Wissa it wouldn't look so bad in the end.

 

But that is a lot of buissiness to be done in a short time.

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1 minute ago, KingArthur said:

I just dont think this current setup is much better, so like I said, we need to recruit right people there so this doesnt happen again. 

This current setup is because he left at the start of the window, we haven't replaced him yet.

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The transfer situation will never resolve itself whilst we have certain people in the room and sadly a manager not yet known to the big names. Ive been absolutely killed for 2 years for the stance that the manager has a big influence on the name coming in, players sign for multiple reasons, the club, the manager, the team, the city and the wage.

 

We cant offer the wages currently, we arent in London and to many big names Eddie is an unknown. We go into most purchases with 3 major strikes against us.

 

Eventually something will tell as this recurring theme isnt an off chance

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Just now, madras said:

Eddie's not an unknown, especially within the game. Wages and prestige are where we get caught at the minute.

 

Do you think benjamin sesko is signing for Eddie Howe before Unai Emery? (not touting for this here but....) or does this change if its Jose Mourinho and Unai Enery?

 

Purely based on a European reputation, not on skillset.

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1 minute ago, madras said:

Eddie's not an unknown, especially within the game. Wages and prestige are where we get caught at the minute.

It’s just wages.  We used to target players wanted by AC Milan and Brighton. Now we target players wanted by Chelsea. Thats the difference.  
 

We got Elanga and we might get Wissa because we are paying a good fee and bigger fish aren’t after them. 

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4 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said:

The transfer situation will never resolve itself whilst we have certain people in the room and sadly a manager not yet known to the big names. Ive been absolutely killed for 2 years for the stance that the manager has a big influence on the name coming in, players sign for multiple reasons, the club, the manager, the team, the city and the wage.

 

We cant offer the wages currently, we arent in London and to many big names Eddie is an unknown. We go into most purchases with 3 major strikes against us.

 

Eventually something will tell as this recurring theme isnt an off chance

You and doing a disservice to the intelligence of footballers here. If someone was given an offer here, they would of course know that Howe has achieved considerable progress, taken a team from the edges of the premiership to winning silverware, and at the same time developed players for any next step. Eddie is not unknown at all in professional circles. 
 

I think you are being deliberately misleading here. Or do you have another agenda?

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Just now, Tonalis Bookie said:

 

Do you think benjamin sesko is signing for Eddie Howe before Unai Emery? (not touting for this here but....) or does this change if its Jose Mourinho and Unai Enery?

 

Purely based on a European reputation, not on skillset.

He joins whoever pays the most money. And CL. 

 

Chelsea have a no name manager. 

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